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" Good or Bad? "

Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:51 pm

Oldham’s club sponsors are being told by senior sources at the club that a deal with Ched Evans has been agreed. Good or bad ?

Ched Evans: Oldham Athletic owner says deal is 80% certain

Oldham Athletic owner Simon Corney says there is an "80% chance" that the League One club will sign convicted rapist Ched Evans.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Oldham’s club sponsors are being told by senior sources at the club that a deal with Ched Evans has been agreed. Good or bad ?

a convicted rapist on the team.......BAD...

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:56 pm

Good. Hope to see him wearing a Wales shirt again some time soon!

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:57 pm

Very bad, I can't believe they are taking him on :shock:

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:59 pm

Good, players out there that have done far worse and still allowed to continue their career! Lee Hughes, the Plymouth goal keeper to name but a few! I hope cheds case gets reviewed again as there were countless Contradicting issues In it!

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:05 pm

Maybe he should have waited for appeal to be heared before returning, knowing the feelings of anti football goody two shoes! :thumbup:

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:05 pm

Maybe he should have waited for appeal to be heared before returning, knowing the feelings of anti football goody two shoes! :thumbup:

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:06 pm

Bad unrepentant convicted rapists do not deserve this.

If his appeal gets turned down will the rape apologists on here say they were wrong? Nope.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:12 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:Good, players out there that have done far worse and still allowed to continue their career! Lee Hughes, the Plymouth goal keeper to name but a few! I hope cheds case gets reviewed again as there were countless Contradicting issues In it!


Agree.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:21 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:Good, players out there that have done far worse and still allowed to continue their career! Lee Hughes, the Plymouth goal keeper to name but a few! I hope cheds case gets reviewed again as there were countless Contradicting issues In it!


Agree.

The guys a convicted rapist, how would you feel if that was your daughter.
If Oldham do sign him fans will boycott the club, sponsors will pull out, they'll be the poriors of the football league.
Unless his conviction is overturned no club should employ him, young kids look up to footballers, is this the role model you want for your kids? Not me.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:27 pm

He should lie low until the appeal process is complete. I do not think it is appropriate for the victim and her family that he is allowed back into football before the appeal has been finished.

That said, I was against Lee Hughes and the Plymouth keeper returning to play.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:32 pm

Zabier wrote:He should lie low until the appeal process is complete. I do not think it is appropriate for the victim and her family that he is allowed back into football before the appeal has been finished.

That said, I was against Lee Hughes and the Plymouth keeper returning to play.

I agree, what are Oldham thinking, do they or any club really want a convicted rapist representing them, going to schools meeting fans in the local community etc. It's embarrassing

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:34 pm

This is a really difficult situation. Yes he is a convicted rapist, and yes there are a lot of contradictions within the case. However, if you believe in our judicial system, then you should also believe that he has the right to work once he is released from prison. His sentence was jail term - not unemployment.

Saying that, being a footballer isnt your average job, he is a role model to younger children and people will celebrate with him when he scores goals. Does he deserve this sort of role, being a convicted rapist ? Im not sure. By not allowing him to be a football player, doesnt ruin his life. There are plenty of other roles he can fulfil in society.

I think it would have been best to have waited until his appeal was over.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:36 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:Good, players out there that have done far worse and still allowed to continue their career! Lee Hughes, the Plymouth goal keeper to name but a few! I hope cheds case gets reviewed again as there were countless Contradicting issues In it!

lee hughes to name but a few......thats one in my book....and yes he should never have had the oppurtunity either..

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:37 pm

A block wrote:This is a really difficult situation. Yes he is a convicted rapist, and yes there are a lot of contradictions within the case. However, if you believe in our judicial system, then you should also believe that he has the right to work once he is released from prison. His sentence was jail term - not unemployment.

Saying that, being a footballer isnt your average job, he is a role model to younger children and people will celebrate with him when he scores goals. Does he deserve this sort of role, being a convicted rapist ? Im not sure. By not allowing him to be a football player, doesnt ruin his life. There are plenty of other roles he can fulfil in society.

I think it would have been best to have waited until his appeal was over.


My thoughts exactly. Players should have to sign a waiver these days stating their contract will be terminated if they commit a crime that results in jail. Football isn't your average job. It is deemed to be that of a role model and as part of that they should stay out of jail.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:15 pm

He was silly very f*cking silly. We don't know if he did or really didn't.. maybe he should lay low until the appeal,..... But if he's not even allowed to train, he will be well out of it by the time the Appeal happens. What about the so called rehabilitation to work act? And as for the girl, who was allegedly out of it , yet was seen going back out of the hotel in a taxi to collect take away food!, hopefully cheds conviction gets overturned but we will just have to wait.

As mentioned he is currently a convicted rapist, so I can't see anyone employing him at the moment , but if he's given the chance then so be it. How many chances has marlon king had?

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:20 pm

He's been convicted for rape
So Guilty no place in football for him

What I don't understand is the girl went back to his room
to do what ?
What was she thinking

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:24 pm

Tailgunner wrote:He's been convicted for rape
So Guilty no place in football for him

What I don't understand is the girl went back to his room
to do what ?
What was she thinking

not a straight forward case i agree....and as you have said he has been convicted...so as it stands he is a sex offender.. :ayatollah:

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:24 pm

Ched Evans: Oldham Athletic owner says deal is 80% certain

Oldham Athletic owner Simon Corney says there is an "80% chance" that the League One club will sign convicted rapist Ched Evans.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:30 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Ched Evans: Oldham Athletic owner says deal is 80% certain

Oldham Athletic owner Simon Corney says there is an "80% chance" that the League One club will sign convicted rapist Ched Evans.

So he's still not sure, he's just seeing how much of an uproar it's going to cause before committing. I can't see anything positive to come out of this for Oldham. Ched Evans has shown no remorse and a web site of his supporters attack his victim daily and he says nothing to put a stop to it. It's a no from me :ayatollah:

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:39 pm

RFMH wrote:Bad unrepentant convicted rapists do not deserve this.

If his appeal gets turned down will the rape apologists on here say they were wrong? Nope.


does a rapist deserve to be punished til the day he dies, or if not at what point can he return to earning a living?

he has served his custodial sentence. from his point of view he maintains his innocence, which explains his total lack of an apology or admission of guilt.

its not as if he's going to have an easy life, if he signs he'll get dogs abuse whenever he plays. i've said it many times on here: employing someone does not mean you agree with what they have done in their life.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Ched Evans: Oldham Athletic owner says deal is 80% certain

Oldham Athletic owner Simon Corney says there is an "80% chance" that the League One club will sign convicted rapist Ched Evans.


Been sat on the fence all along, but it's now a No from me. Would you want him playing for city? There is your answer.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:26 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
RFMH wrote:Bad unrepentant convicted rapists do not deserve this.

If his appeal gets turned down will the rape apologists on here say they were wrong? Nope.


does a rapist deserve to be punished til the day he dies, or if not at what point can he return to earning a living?

he has served his custodial sentence. from his point of view he maintains his innocence, which explains his total lack of an apology or admission of guilt.

its not as if he's going to have an easy life, if he signs he'll get dogs abuse whenever he plays. i've said it many times on here: employing someone does not mean you agree with what they have done in their life.


So anyone convicted of any crime who is released on license and is unrepentant gets the 'ok' from you to play football from you?

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:00 pm

good

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:34 pm

RFMH wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
RFMH wrote:Bad unrepentant convicted rapists do not deserve this.

If his appeal gets turned down will the rape apologists on here say they were wrong? Nope.


does a rapist deserve to be punished til the day he dies, or if not at what point can he return to earning a living?

he has served his custodial sentence. from his point of view he maintains his innocence, which explains his total lack of an apology or admission of guilt.

its not as if he's going to have an easy life, if he signs he'll get dogs abuse whenever he plays. i've said it many times on here: employing someone does not mean you agree with what they have done in their life.


So anyone convicted of any crime who is released on license and is unrepentant gets the 'ok' from you to play football from you?


answer my question and then i'll answer yours.