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" RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:32 am

Do you agree?

" GIVE RUSSELL SLADE A CHANCE? "

By Terry Phillips

Russell Slade was appointed Bluebirds manager less than three months ago. He has had 14 matches in charge.

Slade inherited a near impossible situation with 38 senior players in a squad which lacked balance and included too many who simply didn’t want to be at the club.

Mats Daehli was one of those and his representatives made it clear he wanted to leave during a face-to-face meeting with Slade. The talented young Norwegian has signed for German club Freiburg in a £2m deal and good luck to him. That was the right decision because the lad had come to Cardiff to play under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

But I still hear fans saying ‘Slade doesn’t know what he’s doing’ or ‘he doesn’t have the experience’.

Another comment has been: “He’ll only sign players from Orient in January. What’s the point of that?”

I haven’t seen evidence of City making a move for any Orient players.

Slade has been a first team Football League manager in almost 700 matches over 20 years. You never know, he may well have learned a bit in that time.

Invariably the people having a go at the manager have absolutely no experience of management themselves and would be completely lost if confronted with a group of 30-odd players and told: “Lead them to promotion.”

Slade must be judged, but now is not the right time. It is only fair to wait and see what he does in January and where he can get the Bluebirds come the end of the season.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:34 am

Agree. :ayatollah:

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:59 am

Rydogsccfc wrote:Agree. :ayatollah:

:thumbup:

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:23 am

Just see what he can do in the January transfers and see where we are at the end of January! If he isnt improving and lacking fight he will be gone hopefully! But I have a feeling he may not do well for us and we'll be yet again searching for another manager, hope I'm wrong!

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:24 am

Just see what he can do in the January transfers and see where we are at the end of January! If he isnt improving and lacking fight he will be gone hopefully! But I have a feeling he may not do well for us and we'll be yet again searching for another manager, hope I'm wrong!

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:13 am

Totally disagree. He has never managed at this level, he has never secured a promotion for any club in his managerial career, his style of football is dire and reminiscent of Wimbledon in the 80s, we have the worst level of possession in the entire Championship since his appointment and you cannot score without the ball, he is totally out of his depth, we had some talented players when he arrived and he would not play them, he will not change his formation. The sooner he goes the better, he is nowhere near good enough for Cardiff City and it's no wonder Orient were about to sack him.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:53 am

Bluebeetle wrote:Totally disagree. He has never managed at this level, he has never secured a promotion for any club in his managerial career, his style of football is dire and reminiscent of Wimbledon in the 80s, we have the worst level of possession in the entire Championship since his appointment and you cannot score without the ball, he is totally out of his depth, we had some talented players when he arrived and he would not play them, he will not change his formation. The sooner he goes the better, he is nowhere near good enough for Cardiff City and it's no wonder Orient were about to sack him.


I agree with this^^^except for the non playing of talented players bit,,,,,this surely is on VT's command.

Ask any BHA or Sheff Utd fan about RS, & I'm sure they would give him a glowing reference!

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:16 am

Slade is nothing more than a very well paid puppet.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:17 am

I have to disagree.

Every manager deserves a chance however I do have concerns with Slade at the helm.
He has no Championship/Premiership experience and what has concerned me is his inability to move away from our rigid 4-4-2 formation. Every team knows his we are going to play. He has no plan B when we need to change our game. His substitutions gave been woeful (e.g bringing Ravel on in the 86th minute when we are down and then criticising him in the press for not making an impact).

As with other managers, some of his team selections gave been poor. He has consistently put Macheda in instead of Jones, the club's top goal scorer. Ignored quality.

The biggest factor is the abysmal football that we are playing. You cannot blame the players for that week in week out. It is certainly the worse football that I have seen for many years. What are the positives? Everyone is entitled to an opinion but I think the press gave it wrong here. The warnings are there for everyone to see.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:33 am

Massive concerns and my opinion of him is starting to change for the worse, although my opinion of him initially was that he would do no more than steady the ship and restore some order. That's now a distant memory although the circumstances he works under is a massive handicap for him. I did however know what he was singing up for, hope he can steady the ship again in 2015. In my opinion a steady mid table finish is best we can expect with off field problems. He is on borrowed time as the new consortium will want a high profile manager! :roll:

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:50 am

I am not happy with the set-up, boardroom influencing who is available to play is just wrong. However, it would be the same conditions for another incoming manager.

Also I really don't like to be against the manager so early on but the possession stats and all round lack of entertainment needs to be addressed by Slade ASAP

Not one of the goals vs Colchester could be described as a team move, rather individual efforts. He needs to build a team that can open up defences with precise passing and clever movement off the ball AKA entertainment

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:00 am

Slade is out of his depth and clueless

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:08 am

Gary monk had never managed a club in his life but he's doing well with the gypos. So its irrelevant if managers haven't managed a certain level before, they all deserve a chance. I'd take a gamble and say the ones who say he should be sacked or he's out of his depth are the ones who boo and sing 'sacked in the morning'. Never going to give him a chance even if we start winning games are you.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:14 am

Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Gary monk had never managed a club in his life but he's doing well with the gypos. So its irrelevant if managers haven't managed a certain level before, they all deserve a chance. I'd take a gamble and say the ones who say he should be sacked or he's out of his depth are the ones who boo and sing 'sacked in the morning'. Never going to give him a chance even if we start winning games are you.

Monk has been bought up with a system of how they play. And he carrying on with that.mif he can improve it that's another matter. But Slade is a lower league manager still with old fashioned ideas. And the simple fact he is nothing more than Tans bitch and for him on a good contract.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:18 am

It doesn't matter what we or the self serving Terry Phillips thinks. Slade is a Tan lackey responsible for putting 11 players on the pitch whilst the purge of the current squad continues. Hopefully Tan will then have saved enough face and adequate money to sell up and never blight our life again. If by some miracle the terrible Slade has done enough to then stay as manager remains to be seen. For what its worth, I believe that under Slade we will be at best a very average Championship Club or League 1 top 10 side. What is very hopeful, however, is that when (soon please) Tan goes we will have returned to us the full "Bluebird Brand" of old. PS...Tan hates Cardiff fans.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:20 am

Bluebeetle wrote:Totally disagree. He has never managed at this level, he has never secured a promotion for any club in his managerial career, his style of football is dire and reminiscent of Wimbledon in the 80s, we have the worst level of possession in the entire Championship since his appointment and you cannot score without the ball, he is totally out of his depth, we had some talented players when he arrived and he would not play them, he will not change his formation. The sooner he goes the better, he is nowhere near good enough for Cardiff City and it's no wonder Orient were about to sack him.


Pretty much agree with this.
Even if he does steady us down a bit & we move up a few places he's certainly not the man to take us forward IMO.

And in decades of watching City I have never boo'd them in my life but have no problem with those that do. They pay a lot of money & it's their choice.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:47 am

Usual shite from Phillips, "impossible task with 38 players" my arse? Slade has chosen to go with around 18 players since he came in and they have not performed for him. We already had enough talent here, it just needs a knowledgeable and talented manager to get them performing. I reckon he will do a superb job at turning us into a mid table championship team. :thumbup:

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:08 am

Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Gary monk had never managed a club in his life but he's doing well with the gypos. So its irrelevant if managers haven't managed a certain level before, they all deserve a chance. I'd take a gamble and say the ones who say he should be sacked or he's out of his depth are the ones who boo and sing 'sacked in the morning'. Never going to give him a chance even if we start winning games are you.


Managers who haven't managed above league 1, whilst having managed over 700 games, have not done so for a reason, because they are not good enough to manage a bigger and better club, not because they haven't had any luck :thumbup:

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:17 pm

Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Gary monk had never managed a club in his life but he's doing well with the gypos. So its irrelevant if managers haven't managed a certain level before, they all deserve a chance. I'd take a gamble and say the ones who say he should be sacked or he's out of his depth are the ones who boo and sing 'sacked in the morning'. Never going to give him a chance even if we start winning games are you.


Cant speak for others but ive never boo'd no matter how much id have liked to at times and never sang your getting sacked in the morning to our own manager. I do however think slade is a dinosaur who is way out of his depths. If he completely changes his personality, we start winning over a long period and we manage to put 3 passes together I will admit I was wrong but othewise I dont like him and want him out. Im dreading January.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:29 pm

I like the guy.

He hasn't got a f*cking clue how to manage at championship level and has a backroom staff who are even more clueless than he is.

But as a bloke he comes across ok.

However as we all know nice guys always finish last. We need a nasty b*stard who is not afraid to stand up to the boardroom and tell them a few home truths, while whipping this underachieving shower of shit squad in to some shape.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:55 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Do you agree?

" GIVE RUSSELL SLADE A CHANCE? "

By Terry Phillips

Russell Slade was appointed Bluebirds manager less than three months ago. He has had 14 matches in charge.

Slade inherited a near impossible situation with 38 senior players in a squad which lacked balance and included too many who simply didn’t want to be at the club.

Mats Daehli was one of those and his representatives made it clear he wanted to leave during a face-to-face meeting with Slade. The talented young Norwegian has signed for German club Freiburg in a £2m deal and good luck to him. That was the right decision because the lad had come to Cardiff to play under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

But I still hear fans saying ‘Slade doesn’t know what he’s doing’ or ‘he doesn’t have the experience’.

Another comment has been: “He’ll only sign players from Orient in January. What’s the point of that?”

I haven’t seen evidence of City making a move for any Orient players.

Slade has been a first team Football League manager in almost 700 matches over 20 years. You never know, he may well have learned a bit in that time.

Invariably the people having a go at the manager have absolutely no experience of management themselves and would be completely lost if confronted with a group of 30-odd players and told: “Lead them to promotion.”

Slade must be judged, but now is not the right time. It is only fair to wait and see what he does in January and where he can get the Bluebirds come the end of the season.


Interestingly it cant be many more matches under Slade than what Ole had over 2 seasons. I think Ole was sacked after 7/8 this season.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:19 pm

BobBankLoyalist wrote:I like the guy.

He hasn't got a f*cking clue how to manage at championship level and has a backroom staff who are even more clueless than he is.

But as a bloke he comes across ok.

However as we all know nice guys always finish last. We need a nasty b*stard who is not afraid to stand up to the boardroom and tell them a few home truths, while whipping this underachieving shower of shit squad in to some shape.


Totally agree. He is a nice guy and like to see him do well but not sure if he's up to it

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:59 pm

BobBankLoyalist wrote:I like the guy.

He hasn't got a f*cking clue how to manage at championship level and has a backroom staff who are even more clueless than he is.

But as a bloke he comes across ok.

However as we all know nice guys always finish last. We need a nasty b*stard who is not afraid to stand up to the boardroom and tell them a few home truths, while whipping this underachieving shower of shit squad in to some shape.


:notworthy: :notworthy: Sums up the whole CCFC situation perfectly :notworthy: :notworthy:

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:05 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Gary monk had never managed a club in his life but he's doing well with the gypos. So its irrelevant if managers haven't managed a certain level before, they all deserve a chance. I'd take a gamble and say the ones who say he should be sacked or he's out of his depth are the ones who boo and sing 'sacked in the morning'. Never going to give him a chance even if we start winning games are you.


Cant speak for others but ive never boo'd no matter how much id have liked to at times and never sang your getting sacked in the morning to our own manager. I do however think slade is a dinosaur who is way out of his depths. If he completely changes his personality, we start winning over a long period and we manage to put 3 passes together I will admit I was wrong but othewise I dont like him and want him out. Im dreading January.


Don't always agree with your posts but good post that! Also never turned on manager but also fear for Jan.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:02 pm

Slade has an almost impossible job of rectifying Ole, Dalman & Tans much vaunted transfer committee....Far too many expensive almost "sucker" acquisitions.

To me Slade's preference is for defenders to defend, one strong man in midfield, a creator, working wide midfielders & 2mobile strikers. With the swap out for another midfield at the expense of the second striker, that's not too dissimilar from Malky.

IMO - Fabio and Matts didn't fit that model. Macheda should but is crap, Jones isn't mobile enough and forces us to go route one, thats why Joe Mason is back.

A flat back four that can defend, wide midfielders like cowie & conway , a worker Gunnar or Ademyemi, a creator Whitts, Mason and LeFondre- I don't see why that don't work.

So we have bought a left back, looking a wide working midfielders, we'll see how January goes

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:10 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Slade has an almost impossible job of rectifying Ole, Dalman & Tans much vaunted transfer committee....Far too many expensive almost "sucker" acquisitions.

To me Slade's preference is for defenders to defend, one strong man in midfield, a creator, working wide midfielders & 2mobile strikers. With the swap out for another midfield at the expense of the second striker, that's not too dissimilar from Malky.

IMO - Fabio and Matts didn't fit that model. Macheda should but is crap, Jones isn't mobile enough and forces us to go route one, thats why Joe Mason is back.

A flat back four that can defend, wide midfielders like cowie & conway , a worker Gunnar or Ademyemi, a creator Whitts, Mason and LeFondre- I don't see why that don't work.

So we have bought a left back, looking a wide working midfielders, we'll see how January goes


This. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:27 pm

he has a very difficult job on his hands. he inherited a disinterested bunch of prima donnas who didnt seem to care whether they win or not as long as they get paid. the fans are angry, and quick to get on the players backs if we start games slowly.

he also has no track record above league 1, so fans will say he doesn't know what he's doing whenever he makes any minute error. he is also a man of vincent tan, so the fans decided they didnt like the look of him from day one.

even if we finished 6th at the end of the season, he wouldn't get any credit from the majority of fans. i feel a bit sorry for him - he's an honest hard working manager working under extremely difficult conditions.

Re: " RUSSELL SLADE "

Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:37 pm

Thats too senseable for on here swampy :bluescarf: