Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:41 pm
Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:31 pm
Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:41 pm
Daya wrote:Poor bloke first he gets framed by some old slapper with a history of crying rape, does his bird, and still people get on his case and don't even allow him to ply his trade of kicking a ball.
Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:17 pm
Daya wrote:Poor bloke first he gets framed by some old slapper with a history of crying rape, does his bird, and still people get on his case and don't even allow him to ply his trade of kicking a ball.
Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:57 pm
Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:51 pm
I agree ,how is it ok for one to get away with it and not the otherMardon89 wrote:I honestly think his conviction will be overturned and then everyone slating him will look like right bell ends!
I followed the case quite closely and how he was ever charged is beyond me.
Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:03 pm
Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:57 pm
Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:10 am
Nuclearblue wrote:We stop Rapists from working abroad whilst we allow Rapist and Murderers to come into this CountryOur country is fooked up I tell you.
Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:40 am
Ray Bishop wrote:Daya wrote:Poor bloke first he gets framed by some old slapper with a history of crying rape, does his bird, and still people get on his case and don't even allow him to ply his trade of kicking a ball.
It's an absolute disgrace. He done his time, he should be able to carry on with his career. If Lee Hughes can still play after what he did, then so should Evans.
Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:03 pm
Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:23 pm
Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:31 pm
Woodville Willie wrote:If he is innocent then he should be using every waking hour trying to prove it. The fact is that he is a convicted rapist who hasn't completed his sentence yet. As such, he shouldn't be treated any differently to other released offenders.
Interesting that the victim is referred to as a slapper. It takes 2 to tango. He is just as dubious at best for going to that hotel room with her in the first place.
The scars of sexual assault are deep and never really go away. Why should his victim have to witness the perpetrator enjoying the high life?
There I said it. Cue the ridicule from some clueless numpty.
Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:38 pm
Woodville Willie wrote:If he is innocent then he should be using every waking hour trying to prove it. The fact is that he is a convicted rapist who hasn't completed his sentence yet. As such, he shouldn't be treated any differently to other released offenders.
Interesting that the victim is referred to as a slapper. It takes 2 to tango. He is just as dubious at best for going to that hotel room with her in the first place.
The scars of sexual assault are deep and never really go away. Why should his victim have to witness the perpetrator enjoying the high life?
There I said it. Cue the ridicule from some clueless numpty.
Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:42 pm
Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:42 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:If he is innocent then he should be using every waking hour trying to prove it. The fact is that he is a convicted rapist who hasn't completed his sentence yet. As such, he shouldn't be treated any differently to other released offenders.
Interesting that the victim is referred to as a slapper. It takes 2 to tango. He is just as dubious at best for going to that hotel room with her in the first place.
The scars of sexual assault are deep and never really go away. Why should his victim have to witness the perpetrator enjoying the high life?
There I said it. Cue the ridicule from some clueless numpty.
You mean queue someone with a different opinion than you?
Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:45 pm
Woodville Willie wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:If he is innocent then he should be using every waking hour trying to prove it. The fact is that he is a convicted rapist who hasn't completed his sentence yet. As such, he shouldn't be treated any differently to other released offenders.
Interesting that the victim is referred to as a slapper. It takes 2 to tango. He is just as dubious at best for going to that hotel room with her in the first place.
The scars of sexual assault are deep and never really go away. Why should his victim have to witness the perpetrator enjoying the high life?
There I said it. Cue the ridicule from some clueless numpty.
You mean queue someone with a different opinion than you?
No I mean what I said. Ched is guilty as it stands. Until he is found otherwise, in the eyes of the law he is a convicted rapist. Not an opinion, fact.
Unless anyone can post anything concrete on here and thus prove him innocent, he remains a convicted sex offender. He wouldn't be allowed to return to teaching, the police force, etc. so why should he be allowed to travel abroad to dodge his responsibility?
Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:49 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:If he is innocent then he should be using every waking hour trying to prove it. The fact is that he is a convicted rapist who hasn't completed his sentence yet. As such, he shouldn't be treated any differently to other released offenders.
Interesting that the victim is referred to as a slapper. It takes 2 to tango. He is just as dubious at best for going to that hotel room with her in the first place.
The scars of sexual assault are deep and never really go away. Why should his victim have to witness the perpetrator enjoying the high life?
There I said it. Cue the ridicule from some clueless numpty.
In case you didn't know he has appealed to court of appeal which is ongoing![]()
Wonder if people retract their abuse of him if he wins which as high probability of happening as they have fast tracked it which is unusual! (Not because he's a footballer)
Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:05 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:If he is innocent then he should be using every waking hour trying to prove it. The fact is that he is a convicted rapist who hasn't completed his sentence yet. As such, he shouldn't be treated any differently to other released offenders.
Interesting that the victim is referred to as a slapper. It takes 2 to tango. He is just as dubious at best for going to that hotel room with her in the first place.
The scars of sexual assault are deep and never really go away. Why should his victim have to witness the perpetrator enjoying the high life?
There I said it. Cue the ridicule from some clueless numpty.
You mean queue someone with a different opinion than you?
No I mean what I said. Ched is guilty as it stands. Until he is found otherwise, in the eyes of the law he is a convicted rapist. Not an opinion, fact.
Unless anyone can post anything concrete on here and thus prove him innocent, he remains a convicted sex offender. He wouldn't be allowed to return to teaching, the police force, etc. so why should he be allowed to travel abroad to dodge his responsibility?
Some believe he is innocent and with good reason. Lets face it our judical system is not perfect is it.
Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:18 pm
Woodville Willie wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:If he is innocent then he should be using every waking hour trying to prove it. The fact is that he is a convicted rapist who hasn't completed his sentence yet. As such, he shouldn't be treated any differently to other released offenders.
Interesting that the victim is referred to as a slapper. It takes 2 to tango. He is just as dubious at best for going to that hotel room with her in the first place.
The scars of sexual assault are deep and never really go away. Why should his victim have to witness the perpetrator enjoying the high life?
There I said it. Cue the ridicule from some clueless numpty.
You mean queue someone with a different opinion than you?
No I mean what I said. Ched is guilty as it stands. Until he is found otherwise, in the eyes of the law he is a convicted rapist. Not an opinion, fact.
Unless anyone can post anything concrete on here and thus prove him innocent, he remains a convicted sex offender. He wouldn't be allowed to return to teaching, the police force, etc. so why should he be allowed to travel abroad to dodge his responsibility?
Some believe he is innocent and with good reason. Lets face it our judical system is not perfect is it.
What good reason? If there is a good reason, help him out and get the conviction overturned. Instinctive doubt is of no use.
While I agree that our judicial system isn't perfect, it is about as good as it gets. We don't have the death penalty for a start. In many countries, he would already have been executed. If there has been a miscarriage of justice, at least he will be alive to see his name cleared.
Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:29 pm
np20 wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:If he is innocent then he should be using every waking hour trying to prove it. The fact is that he is a convicted rapist who hasn't completed his sentence yet. As such, he shouldn't be treated any differently to other released offenders.
Interesting that the victim is referred to as a slapper. It takes 2 to tango. He is just as dubious at best for going to that hotel room with her in the first place.
The scars of sexual assault are deep and never really go away. Why should his victim have to witness the perpetrator enjoying the high life?
There I said it. Cue the ridicule from some clueless numpty.
You mean queue someone with a different opinion than you?
No I mean what I said. Ched is guilty as it stands. Until he is found otherwise, in the eyes of the law he is a convicted rapist. Not an opinion, fact.
Unless anyone can post anything concrete on here and thus prove him innocent, he remains a convicted sex offender. He wouldn't be allowed to return to teaching, the police force, etc. so why should he be allowed to travel abroad to dodge his responsibility?
Some believe he is innocent and with good reason. Lets face it our judical system is not perfect is it.
What good reason? If there is a good reason, help him out and get the conviction overturned. Instinctive doubt is of no use.
While I agree that our judicial system isn't perfect, it is about as good as it gets. We don't have the death penalty for a start. In many countries, he would already have been executed. If there has been a miscarriage of justice, at least he will be alive to see his name cleared.
Great post! We have a better legal system than 99% of countries that i am personally aware of, i cant comment on those i'm not aware of. People moan about how lax our system is and how many people are let off each year. But now this happens, all of a sudden its not that lax at all. A jury of Joe Public found him guilty with the evidence provided during the trial. So he is guilty in the eyes of the law.
Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:02 pm
Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:12 pm
Lengee wrote:I am not one to defend a convicted rapist. Obviously all rapes are totally wrong regardless of the morals / behaviour of the alleged victim. That said there is always a question of degree. If you look at the facts of the case it is not at all clearcut. There is a good article in the Sunday Times today which outlines the facts:
It appears that at about 4am the girl involved invited herself to go back to the hotel for sex with CEs best mate, but she was too drunk to recall exactly what happened. They had only met a short time beforehand. That said, allegedly CE later entered the room and took advantage of the girls drunken state to have sex with her. She was not in a state to give permission. So CE behaved totally wrongly in doing that. He was subsequently convicted and has served 2 1/2 years in prison. Read the article for the facts as reported. Based on the article, I think it will be a close call if his appeal against conviction was successful.
In my view I think CEs behaviour was totally out of order. But he has served his time and should now be allowed to try to pursue his career.
On a related point on the front page of the paper there is a headline right next to the CE story about Prince Andrew. It is alleged that his billionaire friend had an underage girl who he procured for Prince Andrew to have sex with in various locations and who was effectively treated as a sex slave in the slave traficking industry. Andrew denies it. Wheras CE.s case has everyone up in arms,it seems that there was under the counter bargaining that took place in this case various people in high office ensured that the story is effectively gagged. For me this stinks. If true, the allegations are worse than the CE story and yet where the higher echeleons of our society are involved the full facts never seem to come out until after culprits etc are dead and buried.