Vince Alm: "United we stand divided we fall!"

Vince Alm

United we stand divided we fall!

There has been much debate and soul searching regarding the whole situation at Cardiff City FC during the past couple of years, and the fans have been divided on many of the issues that have been debated.

It is without doubt that the football club and the fans are miles apart on the whole re-brand issue, but the fans are also split on what action should be taken for the reinstatement of our heritage.
There is one common thread however that unites the support now and that is the desire to return to Blue as our first kit. Everyone recognises this will be our best chance to reunite the supporters and the club.
To achieve or win anything whether it is a war, sporting event, success in business it is achieved with a coordinated strategy of several action plans, team work, desire, energy, and enthusiasm.

Let’s embrace that all fellow supporters want to demonstrate for the return of our heritage, and they have a choice of action to follow which suits them.

Do it really matter whether it is the action of marching, wearing blue to all games, boycotting matches or renewing season tickets, not buying merchandise, writing letters, or the diplomatic route as long as the supporters are united in one common cause? it is up to the supporters groups to use this show of unity by you and hit home the benefit of returning to our Blue kit to Vincent Tan!

Lets stop this bickering with each other which is the best way, embrace our fellow supporters choice of how they demonstrate, there is no right way or wrong way together as one they are strong and give leverage to the fans groups to push the point home.

Stick together, support each other, support the team, we have one common love one common goal stay strong and together!

Well said Vince.

As soon as we stop all the anti Tan insults, songs and condemnation I'll be right there alongside you, at the forefront of trying to get our blue back.

Unfortunately lots of our fans still haven't realised that this approach is moving us further away from our aims.

For me we need to make this basic change to our approach right away and before its too late.

A continuation of the abusive approach is only going to move us further apart.

Rightly or wrongly I'm guessing I probably speak for the majority of CCFC fans, most of whom never access forums like this, so just aren't able to voice their opinion.

Use the right approach and tactics and we'd probably carry everyone along with us.

It doesn't matter what approach is taken there will always be people who disagree

Well said Vince.

As soon as we stop all the anti Tan insults, songs and condemnation I'll be right there alongside you, at the forefront of trying to get our blue back.

Unfortunately lots of our fans still haven't realised that this approach is moving us further away from our aims.

For me we need to make this basic change to our approach right away and before its too late.

A continuation of the abusive approach is only going to move us further apart.

Rightly or wrongly I'm guessing I probably speak for the majority of CCFC fans, most of whom never access forums like this, so just aren't able to voice their opinion.

Use the right approach and tactics and we'd probably carry everyone along with us.

i don't think the civil approach of sucking up to tan will ever deliver a return to the blue. if the anti tan chants are stopped, if anything it would give the impression that the fans are no longer against him. the level of discontentment of CCFC fans is a symptom of poor treatment and open disrespect by an absentee owner.

imagine the abuse he'd get from fans of a more proud and principled club like celtic fc if he changed the kit from green and white hoops to red. it would be vitriolic, far, far more personal and aggressive than what any cardiff city fan has so far given him.

Well said Vince.

As soon as we stop all the anti Tan insults, songs and condemnation I'll be right there alongside you, at the forefront of trying to get our blue back.

Unfortunately lots of our fans still haven't realised that this approach is moving us further away from our aims.

For me we need to make this basic change to our approach right away and before its too late.

A continuation of the abusive approach is only going to move us further apart.

Rightly or wrongly I'm guessing I probably speak for the majority of CCFC fans, most of whom never access forums like this, so just aren't able to voice their opinion.

Use the right approach and tactics and we'd probably carry everyone along with us.

i don't think the civil approach of sucking up to tan will ever deliver a return to the blue. if the anti tan chants are stopped, if anything it would give the impression that the fans are no longer against him. the level of discontentment of CCFC fans is a symptom of poor treatment and open disrespect by an absentee owner.

imagine the abuse he'd get from fans of a more proud and principled club like celtic fc if he changed the kit from green and white hoops to red. it would be vitriolic, far, far more personal and aggressive than what any cardiff city fan has so far given him.

Well said Vince.

As soon as we stop all the anti Tan insults, songs and condemnation I'll be right there alongside you, at the forefront of trying to get our blue back.

Unfortunately lots of our fans still haven't realised that this approach is moving us further away from our aims.

For me we need to make this basic change to our approach right away and before its too late.

A continuation of the abusive approach is only going to move us further apart.

Rightly or wrongly I'm guessing I probably speak for the majority of CCFC fans, most of whom never access forums like this, so just aren't able to voice their opinion.

Use the right approach and tactics and we'd probably carry everyone along with us.

i don't think the civil approach of sucking up to tan will ever deliver a return to the blue. if the anti tan chants are stopped, if anything it would give the impression that the fans are no longer against him. the level of discontentment of CCFC fans is a symptom of poor treatment and open disrespect by an absentee owner.

imagine the abuse he'd get from fans of a more proud and principled club like celtic fc if he changed the kit from green and white hoops to red. it would be vitriolic, far, far more personal and aggressive than what any cardiff city fan has so far given him.

Firstly I don't agree we're ALL against Tan. We're probably all against the colour change and that's what we should focus on.

We are in danger of ignoring Tan's (or any grown man's) basic instinct to defend himself. That would be true for any of us but possibly even more so for a top businessman, let alone someone from the Far East.

We need to realise that we can't smoke him out with threats of boycotting games or even by a mass boycott of season ticket renewals. This guy has so much money that he could afford to play seasons without a single season ticket holder, let alone the mere hundreds who at the end of the day would follow through and not renew.

We are just forcing him into a corner without the ammo to cause a stoppage!

As far as I know the only thing that seems to have moved us at all, was the slight relaxing of the abuse when we were in the Premier League (before the Malky saga). At least that got him talking about a compromise 6 months ago.

Let’s embrace that all fellow supporters want to demonstrate for the return of our heritage, and they have a choice of action to follow which suits them.

Do it really matter whether it is the action of marching, wearing blue to all games, boycotting matches or renewing season tickets, not buying merchandise, writing letters, or the diplomatic route as long as the supporters are united in one common cause? it is up to the supporters groups to use this show of unity by you and hit home the benefit of returning to our Blue kit to Vincent Tan!

'Do it really matter'?
Well in my opinion it does because the only way to hit Tan is the boycott of next seasons season tickets & unless we all stick together on this then nothing will work.

Some fans have not got the principles they pretend they have.

Short term pain for long term gain ----- NoBlueNoRenew

Well said Vince.

As soon as we stop all the anti Tan insults, songs and condemnation I'll be right there alongside you, at the forefront of trying to get our blue back.

Unfortunately lots of our fans still haven't realised that this approach is moving us further away from our aims.

For me we need to make this basic change to our approach right away and before its too late.

A continuation of the abusive approach is only going to move us further apart.

Rightly or wrongly I'm guessing I probably speak for the majority of CCFC fans, most of whom never access forums like this, so just aren't able to voice their opinion.

Use the right approach and tactics and we'd probably carry everyone along with us.

i don't think the civil approach of sucking up to tan will ever deliver a return to the blue. if the anti tan chants are stopped, if anything it would give the impression that the fans are no longer against him. the level of discontentment of CCFC fans is a symptom of poor treatment and open disrespect by an absentee owner.

imagine the abuse he'd get from fans of a more proud and principled club like celtic fc if he changed the kit from green and white hoops to red. it would be vitriolic, far, far more personal and aggressive than what any cardiff city fan has so far given him.

The problem is you are 'thinking' too much... You need to start believing!!

Let’s embrace that all fellow supporters want to demonstrate for the return of our heritage, and they have a choice of action to follow which suits them.

Do it really matter whether it is the action of marching, wearing blue to all games, boycotting matches or renewing season tickets, not buying merchandise, writing letters, or the diplomatic route as long as the supporters are united in one common cause? it is up to the supporters groups to use this show of unity by you and hit home the benefit of returning to our Blue kit to Vincent Tan!

'Do it really matter'?
Well in my opinion it does because the only way to hit Tan is the boycott of next seasons season tickets & unless we all stick together on this then nothing will work.

Some fans have not got the principles they pretend they have.

Short term pain for long term gain ----- NoBlueNoRenew

Nail on the head. I honestly believe that a mass boycott is the only viable action to get the rebrand reversed. It's gonna be tough to give up something I've done for many years, but like you say, short term pain for long term gain.

Let’s embrace that all fellow supporters want to demonstrate for the return of our heritage, and they have a choice of action to follow which suits them.

Do it really matter whether it is the action of marching, wearing blue to all games, boycotting matches or renewing season tickets, not buying merchandise, writing letters, or the diplomatic route as long as the supporters are united in one common cause? it is up to the supporters groups to use this show of unity by you and hit home the benefit of returning to our Blue kit to Vincent Tan!

'Do it really matter'?
Well in my opinion it does because the only way to hit Tan is the boycott of next seasons season tickets & unless we all stick together on this then nothing will work.

Some fans have not got the principles they pretend they have.

Short term pain for long term gain ----- NoBlueNoRenew

Agreed with your post. In three years time when two people are singing blue chants on 19:27 in to a game people will still try to avoid doing real action . Anyone who renew's in my opinion deserves all they get from tan as there supporting him in what he's doing then they will moan all season long how much they hate tan and how there falling out of love with the club. You couldn't make it up only at Cardiff huh. Nothings worked up to date its time for real action .

Great words vince and your right in every way shame you and others never used those words at the start of the rebrand.
I never supported your view then but I do now we will beat tan but as one and you are at last right.welcome back

Has Vince Alm ever explained his open letter in the Echo to Tan fully supporting the Red?

Has Vince Alm ever explained his open letter in the Echo to Tan fully supporting the Red?

I thought you had gone .............?

Has Vince Alm ever explained his open letter in the Echo to Tan fully supporting the Red?

What letter?

#nobluenorenew

Has Vince Alm ever explained his open letter in the Echo to Tan fully supporting the Red?

What letter?

Open letter in the Echo begging Tan to stay and said fans would accept Red.

Has Vince Alm ever explained his open letter in the Echo to Tan fully supporting the Red?

What letter?

Open letter in the Echo begging Tan to stay and said fans would accept Red.

no idea steve.