Slade should never have let the gifted Mats Daehli leave

Cardiff City boss Russell Slade should never have let the gifted Mats Daehli leave Bluebirds

Jan 02, 2015

By Scott Johnson

Cardiff City blogger Scott Johnson says Russell Slade could eventually be judged on his handling of flair players like Mats Daehli and Ravel Morrison

Matts Daehli spent too much time on the Cardiff City bench - says Scott Johnson

Russell Slade’s tenure as Cardiff City manager may be defined by his handling of Mats Moller Daehli and Ravel Morrison.

Back in November 2012, Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert dropped record £24m signing Darren Bent for a couple of games, when the team were struggling to score goals. At a subsequent press conference, he was asked 22 questions on the subject and managed to give pretty much nothing away.

Lambert insisted there was no problem with Bent and that he was training well. He evaded questions about whether he had plans to sell him and refused to confirm whether or not he was likely to play for him again.

This recently sprang to mind as the mystery surrounding Daehli’s continued omission from the Bluebirds’ team was debated on social media and message boards.

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

Cardiff City boss Russell Slade should never have let the gifted Mats Daehli leave Bluebirds

Jan 02, 2015

By Scott Johnson

Cardiff City blogger Scott Johnson says Russell Slade could eventually be judged on his handling of flair players like Mats Daehli and Ravel Morrison

Matts Daehli spent too much time on the Cardiff City bench - says Scott Johnson

Russell Slade’s tenure as Cardiff City manager may be defined by his handling of Mats Moller Daehli and Ravel Morrison.

Back in November 2012, Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert dropped record £24m signing Darren Bent for a couple of games, when the team were struggling to score goals. At a subsequent press conference, he was asked 22 questions on the subject and managed to give pretty much nothing away.

Lambert insisted there was no problem with Bent and that he was training well. He evaded questions about whether he had plans to sell him and refused to confirm whether or not he was likely to play for him again.

This recently sprang to mind as the mystery surrounding Daehli’s continued omission from the Bluebirds’ team was debated on social media and message boards.

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

i normally give our managers and players a fair chance and it takes me a lot to turn on them, but letting daehli go scares me for slade, especialy after trying to acomodate noone in daehlis postion

Funny how in the premier league every man and his dog wanted No one on the pitch...now the very same people are slating him which helps the lad a lot

Always a strange decision , never understood it. Almost as if the power's were trying to get back at solsgaer

ffs he just joined the idiot managers club
jones should never of let Mathews go
malky should never of let gestede go
and there will be more in history like um toshack being let go etc
and there will be more in the future
nothing new here ffs

Think the decision was out ofvslades hands and fabio will b next

Always a strange decision , never. understood it. Almost as if the power's were trying to get back at solsgaer

So every manager who let a talented player go against fans wishes the owner is punishing ex manager and fans? mmmm

Now he's gone, we have started playing a formation that would suit him. Great thinking.

Now he's gone, we have started playing a formation that wmmmm ow!ould suit him. Great thinking.

Yes suit him but what about rest team? Get even more overun than we are now!

Couldn't afford him. You are 150 plus million in debt. Your skint now the investment has stopped.

I hear the agent was behind this and that to be able to move on the other two early from their contracts that mats had to be the balance out financially,

Now he's gone, we have started playing a formation that wmmmm ow!ould suit him. Great thinking.

Yes suit him but what about rest team? Get even more overun than we are now!

Not really, Noone is no better defensively and not as good playing just CAM. If anything it would make us stronger

Was it actually Slades choice to let him leave????

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

But all the above are factual and true!

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Agree about Ravel but for me, with us now changing formation to a 4-4-2 with an attacking central midfield player, Dhaelis best position IMO, it's criminal to allow him to leave for 2 million and then play Craig Noone in his position. If we played a 4-4-2 with a flat midfield then it wouldn't be as bad because for me, Dhaeli doesn't suit 4-4-2.

After losing Ravel, I can't believe we have let him go for 2 million, when he fits the new formation perfectly

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Why? They are all facts, he turned down man u to link up with his mentor ole, Norway build their new side around him, was included in list of top U21 talent in the world.
Did Cardiff see the best of him? Probably not. But the above are still facts like skewetts said.
More often then not If a talent as young as him don't quite deliver what they promise, it's due to a number of different things. Also a failure in management to facilitate development. If this was a club like arsenal or Southampton fair enough, but this is Cardiff and its not like the club been able to bring through lots of top talent in recent years.
What's a bit silly in my opnion is to make some grand sweeping statement on the career of someone who is hardly out of school.
Man u? None of his contemporaries at man u accademy are playing regularly. Highly touted talent like pereira, Wilson and januzaj.
Ravel? He is further along but also older, more experienced. Disappointing that he was never given a chance but he was never citys player in the first place. I am surprised anyone expected him to stay. If he had done well he would be off to a club at a higher level. If he he'd be sent back.

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Why? They are all facts, he turned down man u to link up with his mentor ole, Norway build their new side around him, was included in list of top U21 talent in the world.
Did Cardiff see the best of him? Probably not. But the above are still facts like skewetts said.
More often then not If a talent as young as him don't quite deliver what they promise, it's due to a number of different things. Also a failure in the management to facilitate development. If this was a club like arsenal or Southampton fair enough, but this is Cardiff and its not like the club been able to bring through lots of top talent in recent years.
What's a bit silly in my opnion is to make some grand sweeping statement on the career of someone who is hardly out of school.
Man u, none of his contemporaries at man u accademy are playing regularly. Highly touted talent like pereira, Wilson and januzaj.
Ravel? He is further along but also older, more experienced. Disappointing that he was never given a chance but he was never citys player in the first place. I am surprised anyone expected him to stay. If he had done well he would be off to a club at a higher level. If he he'd be sent back.

integral to norway: opinion, not fact.
regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football. gross exaggeration and an opinion.

too right we didnt see the best of him. i would have kept him but i can understand why he was let go. he had talent but so do many players, there was a reason he went to freiburg on a relatively low fee - other managers in the game clearly don't think he's as anywhere near as good as you think.

if we wanted ravel enough, he would have stayed here IMO. his wage would be hefty but not bigger than people like whitts and kenwyne.

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Why? They are all facts, he turned down man u to link up with his mentor ole, Norway build their new side around him, was included in list of top U21 talent in the world.
Did Cardiff see the best of him? Probably not. But the above are still facts like skewetts said.
More often then not If a talent as young as him don't quite deliver what they promise, it's due to a number of different things. Also a failure in the management to facilitate development. If this was a club like arsenal or Southampton fair enough, but this is Cardiff and its not like the club been able to bring through lots of top talent in recent years.
What's a bit silly in my opnion is to make some grand sweeping statement on the career of someone who is hardly out of school.
Man u, none of his contemporaries at man u accademy are playing regularly. Highly touted talent like pereira, Wilson and januzaj.
Ravel? He is further along but also older, more experienced. Disappointing that he was never given a chance but he was never citys player in the first place. I am surprised anyone expected him to stay. If he had done well he would be off to a club at a higher level. If he he'd be sent back.

integral to norway: opinion, not fact.
regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football. gross exaggeration and an opinion.

too right we didnt see the best of him. i would have kept him but i can understand why he was let go. he had talent but so do many players, there was a reason he went to freiburg on a relatively low fee - other managers in the game clearly don't think he's as anywhere near as good as you think.

if we wanted ravel enough, he would have stayed here IMO. his wage would be hefty but not bigger than people like whitts and kenwyne.

Um this is getting a bit abstract for me... Are you saying the national coach of Norways statements about daehlis importance to his team is an opnion not a fact?

He came out and said that, all posted on this board. He even said daehli shouldnt drop down a division with Cardiff in the summer, daehli still stayed.
Recently he said it was very important for the national team that daehli transferred to the Germans.
The football journalists put him on that list, it's not the first time. They reference his performances at man u. They know about him prior to Cardiff, did you?

Facts? you are suggesting no one would be interested in him bar the German team whe
In fact the club confirmed a number of enquiries were made and offers turned down.

Thee is a number of facts here said by people with more knowledge of the player and situation, your personal opinion is that he isn't very good, fair enough. But you can't just disregard what people like that have public ally stated.

I don't think ravel would have stayed, totally disagree. He's better than all the other players, but slade won't play him...Why on earth would he stay?

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Why? They are all facts, he turned down man u to link up with his mentor ole, Norway build their new side around him, was included in list of top U21 talent in the world.
Did Cardiff see the best of him? Probably not. But the above are still facts like skewetts said.
More often then not If a talent as young as him don't quite deliver what they promise, it's due to a number of different things. Also a failure in the management to facilitate development. If this was a club like arsenal or Southampton fair enough, but this is Cardiff and its not like the club been able to bring through lots of top talent in recent years.
What's a bit silly in my opnion is to make some grand sweeping statement on the career of someone who is hardly out of school.
Man u, none of his contemporaries at man u accademy are playing regularly. Highly touted talent like pereira, Wilson and januzaj.
Ravel? He is further along but also older, more experienced. Disappointing that he was never given a chance but he was never citys player in the first place. I am surprised anyone expected him to stay. If he had done well he would be off to a club at a higher level. If he he'd be sent back.

integral to norway: opinion, not fact.
regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football. gross exaggeration and an opinion.

too right we didnt see the best of him. i would have kept him but i can understand why he was let go. he had talent but so do many players, there was a reason he went to freiburg on a relatively low fee - other managers in the game clearly don't think he's as anywhere near as good as you think.

if we wanted ravel enough, he would have stayed here IMO. his wage would be hefty but not bigger than people like whitts and kenwyne.

Um this is getting a bit abstract for me... Are you saying the national coach of Norways statements about daehlis importance to his team is an opnion not a fact?

He came out and said that, all posted on this board. He even said daehli shouldnt drop down a division with Cardiff in the summer, daehli still stayed.
Recently he said it was very important for the national team that daehli transferred to the Germans.
The football journalists put him on that list, it's not the first time. They reference his performances at man u. They know about him prior to Cardiff, did you?

Facts? you are suggesting no one would be interested in him bar the German team whe
In fact the club confirmed a number of enquiries were made and offers turned down.

Thee is a number of facts here said by people with more knowledge of the player and situation, your personal opinion is that he isn't very good, fair enough. But you can't just disregard what people like that have public ally stated.

I don't think ravel would have stayed, totally disagree. He's better than all the other players, but slade won't play him...Why on earth would he stay?

'In general, an opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement about matters commonly considered to be subjective, i.e. based on that which is less than absolutely certain, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. What distinguishes fact from opinion is that facts are verifiable, i.e. can be objectively proven to have occurred. "

the comments by the norweigan coach would be highly biased. i'm sure eikrem is the next steven gerrad according to him.

you don't know that a number of enquiries were made. what matters in any case is clubs putting their money where their mouths are instead of tyre kicking - i.e. coming out and bidding big money for him. if we were offered more than the modest fee that freiburg offered, i suspect we would have accepted it. by the way freiburg are rock bottom of the bundesliga, a league weaker than the PL, that says alot.

i am judging him objectively on his time here at CCFC. in the PL he was ok, but nothing special. in the championship, like i said he showed flashes of brilliance, but thats not enough. good players perform on a consistent basis.

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Why? They are all facts, he turned down man u to link up with his mentor ole, Norway build their new side around him, was included in list of top U21 talent in the world.
Did Cardiff see the best of him? Probably not. But the above are still facts like skewetts said.
More often then not If a talent as young as him don't quite deliver what they promise, it's due to a number of different things. Also a failure in the management to facilitate development. If this was a club like arsenal or Southampton fair enough, but this is Cardiff and its not like the club been able to bring through lots of top talent in recent years.
What's a bit silly in my opnion is to make some grand sweeping statement on the career of someone who is hardly out of school.
Man u, none of his contemporaries at man u accademy are playing regularly. Highly touted talent like pereira, Wilson and januzaj.
Ravel? He is further along but also older, more experienced. Disappointing that he was never given a chance but he was never citys player in the first place. I am surprised anyone expected him to stay. If he had done well he would be off to a club at a higher level. If he he'd be sent back.

integral to norway: opinion, not fact.
regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football. gross exaggeration and an opinion.

too right we didnt see the best of him. i would have kept him but i can understand why he was let go. he had talent but so do many players, there was a reason he went to freiburg on a relatively low fee - other managers in the game clearly don't think he's as anywhere near as good as you think.

if we wanted ravel enough, he would have stayed here IMO. his wage would be hefty but not bigger than people like whitts and kenwyne.

Um this is getting a bit abstract for me... Are you saying the national coach of Norways statements about daehlis importance to his team is an opnion not a fact?

He came out and said that, all posted on this board. He even said daehli shouldnt drop down a division with Cardiff in the summer, daehli still stayed.
Recently he said it was very important for the national team that daehli transferred to the Germans.
The football journalists put him on that list, it's not the first time. They reference his performances at man u. They know about him prior to Cardiff, did you?

Facts? you are suggesting no one would be interested in him bar the German team whe
In fact the club confirmed a number of enquiries were made and offers turned down.

Thee is a number of facts here said by people with more knowledge of the player and situation, your personal opinion is that he isn't very good, fair enough. But you can't just disregard what people like that have public ally stated.

I don't think ravel would have stayed, totally disagree. He's better than all the other players, but slade won't play him...Why on earth would he stay?

'In general, an opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement about matters commonly considered to be subjective, i.e. based on that which is less than absolutely certain, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. What distinguishes fact from opinion is that facts are verifiable, i.e. can be objectively proven to have occurred. "

the comments by the norweigan coach would be highly biased. i'm sure eikrem is the next steven gerrad according to him.

you don't know that a number of enquiries were made. what matters in any case is clubs putting their money where their mouths are instead of tyre kicking - i.e. coming out and bidding big money for him. if we were offered more than the modest fee that freiburg offered, i suspect we would have accepted it. by the way freiburg are rock bottom of the bundesliga, a league weaker than the PL, that says alot.

i am judging him objectively on his time here at CCFC. in the PL he was ok, but nothing special. in the championship, like i said he showed flashes of brilliance, but thats not enough. good players perform on a consistent basis.

Your post is full of contradictions. First you claim the national coach saying a player Is important to his team is just a subjective opnion. His team I think he should know who is important to his team..

Then you say you are able to judge him objectively .. But apparently everyone else opnions even his coach is subjective? Ok then... I think you could at least acknowledge that your opnion is just that an opnion, subjective just like mine... Never mind agree to disagree and lets pick up this in a few years when the kid is 21-22.
FYI eikrem is not in the Norway squad...

Daehli will undoubtably go on to be a top player and we will look back at this sale with huge regret.

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Why? They are all facts, he turned down man u to link up with his mentor ole, Norway build their new side around him, was included in list of top U21 talent in the world.
Did Cardiff see the best of him? Probably not. But the above are still facts like skewetts said.
More often then not If a talent as young as him don't quite deliver what they promise, it's due to a number of different things. Also a failure in the management to facilitate development. If this was a club like arsenal or Southampton fair enough, but this is Cardiff and its not like the club been able to bring through lots of top talent in recent years.
What's a bit silly in my opnion is to make some grand sweeping statement on the career of someone who is hardly out of school.
Man u, none of his contemporaries at man u accademy are playing regularly. Highly touted talent like pereira, Wilson and januzaj.
Ravel? He is further along but also older, more experienced. Disappointing that he was never given a chance but he was never citys player in the first place. I am surprised anyone expected him to stay. If he had done well he would be off to a club at a higher level. If he he'd be sent back.

integral to norway: opinion, not fact.
regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football. gross exaggeration and an opinion.

too right we didnt see the best of him. i would have kept him but i can understand why he was let go. he had talent but so do many players, there was a reason he went to freiburg on a relatively low fee - other managers in the game clearly don't think he's as anywhere near as good as you think.

if we wanted ravel enough, he would have stayed here IMO. his wage would be hefty but not bigger than people like whitts and kenwyne.

Um this is getting a bit abstract for me... Are you saying the national coach of Norways statements about daehlis importance to his team is an opnion not a fact?

He came out and said that, all posted on this board. He even said daehli shouldnt drop down a division with Cardiff in the summer, daehli still stayed.
Recently he said it was very important for the national team that daehli transferred to the Germans.
The football journalists put him on that list, it's not the first time. They reference his performances at man u. They know about him prior to Cardiff, did you?

Facts? you are suggesting no one would be interested in him bar the German team whe
In fact the club confirmed a number of enquiries were made and offers turned down.

Thee is a number of facts here said by people with more knowledge of the player and situation, your personal opinion is that he isn't very good, fair enough. But you can't just disregard what people like that have public ally stated.

I don't think ravel would have stayed, totally disagree. He's better than all the other players, but slade won't play him...Why on earth would he stay?

'In general, an opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement about matters commonly considered to be subjective, i.e. based on that which is less than absolutely certain, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. What distinguishes fact from opinion is that facts are verifiable, i.e. can be objectively proven to have occurred. "

the comments by the norweigan coach would be highly biased. i'm sure eikrem is the next steven gerrad according to him.

you don't know that a number of enquiries were made. what matters in any case is clubs putting their money where their mouths are instead of tyre kicking - i.e. coming out and bidding big money for him. if we were offered more than the modest fee that freiburg offered, i suspect we would have accepted it. by the way freiburg are rock bottom of the bundesliga, a league weaker than the PL, that says alot.

i am judging him objectively on his time here at CCFC. in the PL he was ok, but nothing special. in the championship, like i said he showed flashes of brilliance, but thats not enough. good players perform on a consistent basis.

Your post is full of contradictions. First you claim the national coach saying a player Is important to his team is just a subjective opnion. His team I think he should know who is important to his team..

Then you say you are able to judge him objectively .. But apparently everyone else opnions even his coach is subjective? Ok then... I think you could at least acknowledge that your opnion is just that an opnion, subjective just like mine... Never mind agree to disagree and lets pick up this in a few years when the kid is 21-22.
FYI eikrem is not in the Norway squad...

national coaches of small nations usually overestimate the ability of their own players. i on the other hand, have no such ties and am therefore capable of giving an objective opinion on him. i think what i said was pretty accurate, he has never pulled up trees here, and though he has talent, calling him 'one of the brightest teenage talents in world football' , is wide of the mark at best. yes, you can call that an opinion too if you must

you still haven't answered my point. why has he gone to freiburg who are rock bottom of the bundesliga? surely 'one of the brightest teenage talents in world football' would attract the interests of a more prestigious club? maybe the football managers who decided he wasn't worth a punt at £2m or so could give you a few pointers.

Here is a player that turned down Manchester United to link up with Cardiff, is integral to the Norwegian national side and regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football.

he was good, but statements like the one above shows people getting carried away and sorry but its just ridiculous now. look at things on a purely footballing basis, and put your hatred of tan and slade to one side.

he was good, but would not get near man united's bench. if he was half as good as people thought he would have been playing every week and creating and scoring goals. when he did play, although he showed flashes of brilliance, he was largely forgettable. the one i'm upset about losing is ravel morrison, not daehli.

Why? They are all facts, he turned down man u to link up with his mentor ole, Norway build their new side around him, was included in list of top U21 talent in the world.
Did Cardiff see the best of him? Probably not. But the above are still facts like skewetts said.
More often then not If a talent as young as him don't quite deliver what they promise, it's due to a number of different things. Also a failure in the management to facilitate development. If this was a club like arsenal or Southampton fair enough, but this is Cardiff and its not like the club been able to bring through lots of top talent in recent years.
What's a bit silly in my opnion is to make some grand sweeping statement on the career of someone who is hardly out of school.
Man u, none of his contemporaries at man u accademy are playing regularly. Highly touted talent like pereira, Wilson and januzaj.
Ravel? He is further along but also older, more experienced. Disappointing that he was never given a chance but he was never citys player in the first place. I am surprised anyone expected him to stay. If he had done well he would be off to a club at a higher level. If he he'd be sent back.

integral to norway: opinion, not fact.
regarded as one of the brightest teenage talents in world football. gross exaggeration and an opinion.

too right we didnt see the best of him. i would have kept him but i can understand why he was let go. he had talent but so do many players, there was a reason he went to freiburg on a relatively low fee - other managers in the game clearly don't think he's as anywhere near as good as you think.

if we wanted ravel enough, he would have stayed here IMO. his wage would be hefty but not bigger than people like whitts and kenwyne.

Um this is getting a bit abstract for me... Are you saying the national coach of Norways statements about daehlis importance to his team is an opnion not a fact?

He came out and said that, all posted on this board. He even said daehli shouldnt drop down a division with Cardiff in the summer, daehli still stayed.
Recently he said it was very important for the national team that daehli transferred to the Germans.
The football journalists put him on that list, it's not the first time. They reference his performances at man u. They know about him prior to Cardiff, did you?

Facts? you are suggesting no one would be interested in him bar the German team whe
In fact the club confirmed a number of enquiries were made and offers turned down.

Thee is a number of facts here said by people with more knowledge of the player and situation, your personal opinion is that he isn't very good, fair enough. But you can't just disregard what people like that have public ally stated.

I don't think ravel would have stayed, totally disagree. He's better than all the other players, but slade won't play him...Why on earth would he stay?

'In general, an opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement about matters commonly considered to be subjective, i.e. based on that which is less than absolutely certain, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. What distinguishes fact from opinion is that facts are verifiable, i.e. can be objectively proven to have occurred. "

the comments by the norweigan coach would be highly biased. i'm sure eikrem is the next steven gerrad according to him.

you don't know that a number of enquiries were made. what matters in any case is clubs putting their money where their mouths are instead of tyre kicking - i.e. coming out and bidding big money for him. if we were offered more than the modest fee that freiburg offered, i suspect we would have accepted it. by the way freiburg are rock bottom of the bundesliga, a league weaker than the PL, that says alot.

i am judging him objectively on his time here at CCFC. in the PL he was ok, but nothing special. in the championship, like i said he showed flashes of brilliance, but thats not enough. good players perform on a consistent basis.

Your post is full of contradictions. First you claim the national coach saying a player Is important to his team is just a subjective opnion. His team I think he should know who is important to his team..

Then you say you are able to judge him objectively .. But apparently everyone else opnions even his coach is subjective? Ok then... I think you could at least acknowledge that your opnion is just that an opnion, subjective just like mine... Never mind agree to disagree and lets pick up this in a few years when the kid is 21-22.
FYI eikrem is not in the Norway squad...

national coaches of small nations usually overestimate the ability of their own players. i on the other hand, have no such ties and am therefore capable of giving an objective opinion on him. i think what i said was pretty accurate, he has never pulled up trees here, and though he has talent, calling him 'one of the brightest teenage talents in world football' , is wide of the mark at best. yes, you can call that an opinion too if you must

you still haven't answered my point. why has he gone to freiburg who are rock bottom of the bundesliga? surely 'one of the brightest teenage talents in world football' would attract the interests of a more prestigious club? maybe the football managers who decided he wasn't worth a punt at £2m or so could give you a few pointers.

Lets not do the small country diss. We are not English..

Your point is kinda moot, when we know he turned down man u to come to Cardiff. Surely an objective person such as yourself would never claim Cardiff bottom of the league at the time is bigger than man u.
You fail to put things into perspective. He isn't at man u because he is realistic enough to know he won't get games there not because they didn't want him.. This German club is known for developing and playing young talent and so this is the same MO he had when he followed ole instead of going to a big club.
No one said he's perfect, heis a teenager, could be real quality once age, experience and consitency kicks in. Hard to be great in what's essentially been a bad team. Whits and noone are struggling in this team and they are 30, 27, Not 19..
Dont really get this laissez faire attitude like there is an abundance of young talent coming through
Whatsmore Macheda is playing every game and this guy and ravel can't get a game, sold and sent back. Bizarre

He didn't fit into the team, he was too weak, and you don't build a team around a 19 year old unless they're Wayne Rooney at that age.