' IT IS NOT JUST SLADE'S FAULT '

' IT IS NOT JUST SLADE'S FAULT '


Russell Slade will get the criticism tonight and as the manager he is partly responsible but the issues at our club run deeper than the manager. I have said for weeks to friends that Slade in my opinion is not the right man for the job but we can criticise him all day long but it matters for absolutely nothing. Whilst Vincent Tan is making footballing decisions then we will always have problems.

No matter what side of the fence you sit on regarding Vincent Tan, the one thing you cannot argue against is that he should not be making the decisions on footballing matters.

The troubles at this club stem from the very top, the running of the club is not right and we will continue to deteriate until a solution is found.

Russell Slade is not beyond criticism, he took the job and is therefore accountable too but he he is working without his own management team, which incidentally is not the most important issue if you have the right coaching team behind him but we don't, Slade hears of players leaving through the media which again is very wrong but what Slade can be judged on is his tactics and again today we were not at the races.

I have to question whether the players believe in Slade because it is my opinion that the players are not fighting for the manager and are going through the motions for large periods of the game.

It is soul destroying watching this unfurl at our club but the bottom line is we have no leadership, on or off the pitch, the owner of the shares does not come to watch this team, the players are clearly lacking leadership on the pitch, again today you could visibly see heads dropping and not one player was dishing out any sort of words of action, there is no soul in the club or on the terraces, we have no identity and no game plan on or off the pitch.

Does anyone know what Tan's plans are for the club, does anyone know what is really going on ?

This cannot go on much longer.

Tan is making football decisions are you saying he interfears with match day teams and so on Carl.

Oh it can go on much longer, in fact as long as Tan wants it to go on. He's getting rid of the big earners, will get the club run in budget so it ain't costing him. Then we can protest all we want, after all he don't turn up so it don't really affect him, and he can sit back and have a good laugh at us mugs from wherever he is, while we tumble down the leagues in red.

Accepting Guerra is on his way the teams being selected are ones largely that the crowd would pick. Criticise Sri Tan's colour choice and PR and most of all his managerial selection. However we can't blame him for team selection or under performance. That is Messrs Slade and Young and the players. A fortune has been spent on debt and players; the playing and management staff are letting us and them down.

If your saying that Slade is being led on a lead like a dog and carrying out orders from above then indeed Slade himself is to blame for excepting the post under those conditions, you can't blame all the total shite football on Tan, Slade's the manager and we're playing 4 4 2 every game which as we all know is Slade's philosophy not Tan's.
If he's being told which players not to play then he needs to grow a pair and talk to tan and let him know where this current trend will take us..to bloody league 1.

Players not playing for him, us or themselves. Get the academy boys in. I can tolerate failure but not this. Six standing off for that third goal said it all. If they had a rollicking half time they certainly didn't listen.

If your saying that Slade is being led on a lead like a dog and carrying out orders from above then indeed Slade himself is to blame for excepting the post under those conditions, you can't blame all the total shite football on Tan, Slade's the manager and we're playing 4 4 2 every game which as we all know is Slade's philosophy not Tan's.
If he's being told which players not to play then he needs to grow a pair and talk to tan and let him know where this current trend will take us..to bloody league 1.

The style of football and tactics is absolutely down to Slade and he deserves criticism because it is rubbish.

My point is that lets say Tan sacks Slade tonight, who picks the new manager ?

Yes it will be Tan again, he shouldn't be making these footballing decisions.

He will get another manager who he can manipulate and that is not good for the team, the club or the fans.

Accepting Guerra is on his way the teams being selected are ones largely that the crowd would pick. Criticise Sri Tan's colour choice and PR and most of all his managerial selection. However we can't blame him for team selection or under performance. That is Messrs Slade and Young and the players. A fortune has been spent on debt and players; the playing and management staff are letting us and them down.

As I said above the onus is on tan to get the right people in the positions to get the running of the club right, Tan is not experienced enough in football to be making managerial appointments so until he addresses the issue of the structure of the club then the blame lies with the man at the top.

If people read my post correctly I say that Slade is responsible for selection and tactics but his appointment as manager was wrong and even if Tan sacked him I fear we will end up with someone similar so therefore the problem lies with Tan and not just the manager.

We're talking some crap again!

We have no evidence at all that Tan is having anything to do with selection or team affairs. Once again we're trying to turn a crap performance into Tan's fault.

Slade picks the team and he's stood there on the touchline. Don't try and kid yourself, he's making the decisions on shape, personnel and tactics.

If we are crap it's down to Slade and possibly the players.

We're talking some crap again!

We have no evidence at all that Tan is having anything to do with selection or team affairs. Once again we're trying to turn a crap performance into Tan's fault.

Slade picks the team and he's stood there on the touchline. Don't try and kid yourself, he's making the decisions on shape, personnel and tactics.

If we are crap it's down to Slade and possibly the players.

And tell me exactly where I said Tan is picking the team?

You do realise that making footballing decisions means appointing a football manager or a coach ?

We're talking some crap again!

We have no evidence at all that Tan is having anything to do with selection or team affairs. Once again we're trying to turn a crap performance into Tan's fault.

Slade picks the team and he's stood there on the touchline. Don't try and kid yourself, he's making the decisions on shape, personnel and tactics.

If we are crap it's down to Slade and possibly the players.

And who is the one person responsible for bringing Slade here? Infact, he was extremely happy to tell everyone that this was his own personal appointment....

Whilst Tan is not having a say on footballing matters, he is having his say on footballing decisions, such as the manager and coaches etc.

If your saying that Slade is being led on a lead like a dog and carrying out orders from above then indeed Slade himself is to blame for excepting the post under those conditions, you can't blame all the total shite football on Tan, Slade's the manager and we're playing 4 4 2 every game which as we all know is Slade's philosophy not Tan's.
If he's being told which players not to play then he needs to grow a pair and talk to tan and let him know where this current trend will take us..to bloody league 1.

The style of football and tactics is absolutely down to Slade and he deserves criticism because it is rubbish.

My point is that lets say Tan sacks Slade tonight, who picks the new manager ?

Yes it will be Tan again, he shouldn't be making these footballing decisions.

He will get another manager who he can manipulate and that is not good for the team, the club or the fans.

Once bitten twice shy, if Tan believes that picking managers without any pedigree is a sensible idea then surely the performance of Slade would make him come to his senses.
I've posted before you get what you pay for, another manager from the depths of League 1 will ultimately have the same outcome as the last 10 weeks or so...very few points and nearer to the trap door.
He is without question a brilliant businessman and they rarely make the same mistake twice.

I blame slade over anyone. If slade hasn't got the balls to stand up to tan then that's his problem. The 4-4-2 and match day actions are surely down to slade, he hasn't got a clue what he is doing. He talks a load of rubbish as well.

Carl agree with most of what you say but I think slade is swimming against the tide as we have assembled a team of players who are in it for the money only. No passion, fight or desire but I don't think they have any respect for slade either. We have individual mercenaries, nowhere near a team. Slade has an impossible task and is doomed.

Accepting Guerra is on his way the teams being selected are ones largely that the crowd would pick. Criticise Sri Tan's colour choice and PR and most of all his managerial selection. However we can't blame him for team selection or under performance. That is Messrs Slade and Young and the players. A fortune has been spent on debt and players; the playing and management staff are letting us and them down.

Sorry mate but tan picked the manager he was 'his choice' as he openly refuses to take responsibility for any of the last two failures for managers

Carl agree with most of what you say but I think slade is swimming against the tide as we have assembled a team of players who are in it for the money only. No passion, fight or desire but I don't think they have any respect for slade either. We have individual mercenaries, nowhere near a team. Slade has an impossible task and is doomed.

Slade is on a hiding to nothing unfortunately, I am not saying that as if I agreed with his appointment either because I didn't but the fact that Vincent Tan is choosing the manager is destined for failure and choosing a manager with no experience of this level of football was always a risk.

I blame slade over anyone. If slade hasn't got the balls to stand up to tan then that's his problem. The 4-4-2 and match day actions are surely down to slade, he hasn't got a clue what he is doing. He talks a load of rubbish as well.

Tactics are down to him Luke and yes he took the job with his eyes wide open, he knew the problems at Cardiff and the issues with Tan but still took the job but my point is that if Tan sacks him we will get another yes man to Tan if Tan picks the next guy too.

Maybe Carl but we can live in hope he just gets a proper manager.

Maybe Carl but we can live in hope he just gets a proper manager.

Luke, come on do you honestly trust Vincent Tan to make the right appointment if it is solely his choice ?

He told us that Slade is his appointment.

The problem is at the top of the club.

We're talking some crap again!

We have no evidence at all that Tan is having anything to do with selection or team affairs. Once again we're trying to turn a crap performance into Tan's fault.

Slade picks the team and he's stood there on the touchline. Don't try and kid yourself, he's making the decisions on shape, personnel and tactics.

If we are crap it's down to Slade and possibly the players.

And tell me exactly where I said Tan is picking the team?

You do realise that making footballing decisions means appointing a football manager or a coach ?

Yep!

But the owner of any club is essentially the one who picks a manager. Tan got it wrong this time, reportedly acting on advice. I'm expecting him to sack Slade anytime now but defo after we lose to Colchester on Friday.

Who is advising tan, he's not been in the country once this season...

Maybe Carl but we can live in hope he just gets a proper manager.

Luke, come on do you honestly trust Vincent Tan to make the right appointment if it is solely his choice ?

He told us that Slade is his appointment.

The problem is at the top of the club.

No but I'm struggling to think of anyone worse at the moment.
Although I refuse to believe Tan had ever heard of slade before someone had a word in his ear.

Sorry, but the owner of the club will always ultimately be responsible for the appointment of the manager. The owners of Man Utd, Liverpool , Chelsea etc etc all are responsible for appointing their managers. NONE of them have good footballing knowledge, certainly not enough to pick a manager.Their boards give them suggestions and recomendations etc. And they will stand or fall by them. As is with us.But to say Tan is making these decisions on his own is bollox.He probably had never even heard of Slade before September, he has been advised, by who I know not, but these advisers are more to blame than Tan.Previously I'm guessing he let the board pick the manager for him as he knew nothing,( obviously he still knows very little)but because of the calibre of manager they picked previously,you can't really blame him for getting involved in it,although we all wish he hadn't!! God only knows who he is taking advice from now,I don't believe our board is anywhere near up to the job of running this club and this is as big a problem as Tan is.If things were going well on the pitch, the feeling around the club and amongst the fans would be very different.

Tan is slowly destroying this club. The only way to have half a chance of getting rid of him is by not renewing season tickets. Unfortunately, we know that will not happen, and Tan knows it as well. Waving flags and holding marches while giving Tan a few hundred pounds at the same time will have no effect whatsoever.

Look at how many CEO's Tan has appointed, he just wants yes men in his regime. We will never get a good manager has long as Tan is in charge.

I did not see that coming ?????? ( time after time ) team morale lower than low - not more than three passes achieved direct - not one challenge made that makes you stand up and get excited - ( used to poor football at present but surely 43 player 32 changes this as had a massive impact on the over paid players ) not right to have a squad of eleven changed so frequent - but surely they should still fight every ball every challenge for the wage they get played - they all train together week in week out ) my point being why can't we keep a regular eleven and fight for 90 mins as a team -unit - instead of swapping so much this method as cost us dearly and there is no passion for the shirt or badge of the club there paid to play for - I'm babbling on but so disappointed once again with such a poor performance

he wouldn't do any better if he had man city or chelsea - he's a fecking numpty who should go back to Nottingham, the school he was PE teacher at!!!!

Who is advising tan, he's not been in the country once this season...

Word has it that Glen Roeder advised Tan, though how that came about I don't know. Apparently Roeder and Slade are mates!

Tans fault over all end off.

Carl is a right and I was saying the same to my mates today there are other problems that are running deep in our club. Slade tan the rebrand fans staying away stewards killing the atmosphere in the ground by telling fans to sit down by orders of the stadium manger who the hell does he think he is this is only part of the problem