Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:40 pm
Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:10 pm
alfie sherwood wrote:Respect to those who've put the time & effort into organising the protests in Jan & Feb but they are way too polite.
It's pretty clear that Tan regards supporters with utter disdain. Fans need to fight back with real venom. My personal opinion is that it's always better to die standing up than live stumbling around. It's pretty clear that he is incredibly vindictive. City fans may as well do their worst.
Boycotts should be an absolute given. You are certainly not being disloyal by boycotting - quite the opposite in fact. imo, you are being really loyal to the authentic Cardiff City.
Additionally, the real threat of match disruption also needs to cone into play. It's the ultimate form of direct action but if properly executed would create worldwide headlines and huge embarrassment to Tan.
Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:16 pm
Hiya mate! Alright? wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:Respect to those who've put the time & effort into organising the protests in Jan & Feb but they are way too polite.
It's pretty clear that Tan regards supporters with utter disdain. Fans need to fight back with real venom. My personal opinion is that it's always better to die standing up than live stumbling around. It's pretty clear that he is incredibly vindictive. City fans may as well do their worst.
Boycotts should be an absolute given. You are certainly not being disloyal by boycotting - quite the opposite in fact. imo, you are being really loyal to the authentic Cardiff City.
Additionally, the real threat of match disruption also needs to cone into play. It's the ultimate form of direct action but if properly executed would create worldwide headlines and huge embarrassment to Tan.
There is a long term plan in place. Only the first 2 events have been announced so far, rest assured that if there is no positive response to the "polite" events, it goes up a gear and there's a lot more to follow![]()
Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:18 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Hiya mate! Alright? wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:Respect to those who've put the time & effort into organising the protests in Jan & Feb but they are way too polite.
It's pretty clear that Tan regards supporters with utter disdain. Fans need to fight back with real venom. My personal opinion is that it's always better to die standing up than live stumbling around. It's pretty clear that he is incredibly vindictive. City fans may as well do their worst.
Boycotts should be an absolute given. You are certainly not being disloyal by boycotting - quite the opposite in fact. imo, you are being really loyal to the authentic Cardiff City.
Additionally, the real threat of match disruption also needs to cone into play. It's the ultimate form of direct action but if properly executed would create worldwide headlines and huge embarrassment to Tan.
There is a long term plan in place. Only the first 2 events have been announced so far, rest assured that if there is no positive response to the "polite" events, it goes up a gear and there's a lot more to follow![]()
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Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:20 pm
Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:30 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:if you boycott now, you are a hypocrite.
if you plan to boycott supposedly because of the red, why didnt you boycott when we first changed to red? were you happy to pay to watch us in the premier league in red? any fan who boycotts now is basically only doing so because of the poor football post relegation and high prices, with the rebrand only being a contributing factor.
Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:34 pm
alfie sherwood wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:if you boycott now, you are a hypocrite.
if you plan to boycott supposedly because of the red, why didnt you boycott when we first changed to red? were you happy to pay to watch us in the premier league in red? any fan who boycotts now is basically only doing so because of the poor football post relegation and high prices, with the rebrand only being a contributing factor.
With a handful of others, I'm one of the few who boycotted since May 2012. That said, people all reach tipping points at different times. Personally, I've no time for anyone packing it in "cos the footballs a bit shit" but i'm prepared to give benefit of doubt to those who genuinely hate what the club now is. Results on the pitch should ALWAYS have been secondary, that's why I've not wanted the franchise to win so much as a throw in for the past two and a half years.
Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:21 pm
Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:35 pm
Hiya mate! Alright? wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:Respect to those who've put the time & effort into organising the protests in Jan & Feb but they are way too polite.
It's pretty clear that Tan regards supporters with utter disdain. Fans need to fight back with real venom. My personal opinion is that it's always better to die standing up than live stumbling around. It's pretty clear that he is incredibly vindictive. City fans may as well do their worst.
Boycotts should be an absolute given. You are certainly not being disloyal by boycotting - quite the opposite in fact. imo, you are being really loyal to the authentic Cardiff City.
Additionally, the real threat of match disruption also needs to cone into play. It's the ultimate form of direct action but if properly executed would create worldwide headlines and huge embarrassment to Tan.
There is a long term plan in place. Only the first 2 events have been announced so far, rest assured that if there is no positive response to the "polite" events, it goes up a gear and there's a lot more to follow![]()
Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:30 am
SwampCCFC wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:if you boycott now, you are a hypocrite.
if you plan to boycott supposedly because of the red, why didnt you boycott when we first changed to red? were you happy to pay to watch us in the premier league in red? any fan who boycotts now is basically only doing so because of the poor football post relegation and high prices, with the rebrand only being a contributing factor.
With a handful of others, I'm one of the few who boycotted since May 2012. That said, people all reach tipping points at different times. Personally, I've no time for anyone packing it in "cos the footballs a bit shit" but i'm prepared to give benefit of doubt to those who genuinely hate what the club now is. Results on the pitch should ALWAYS have been secondary, that's why I've not wanted the franchise to win so much as a throw in for the past two and a half years.
well i have alot of respect for you for sticking to you principles, and i hope you get to return to seeing CCFC in blue soon enough my friend![]()
the rest, i disagree with you. would those same fans have reached tipping point had we survived and were mid table in the PL? of course not. they are hypocrites.
Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:33 am
Jimmy Scoular wrote:Go on chanting and waving scarves nothing will happen what world are you people living in?????????????
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Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:24 pm
Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:37 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:if you boycott now, you are a hypocrite.
if you plan to boycott supposedly because of the red, why didnt you boycott when we first changed to red? were you happy to pay to watch us in the premier league in red? any fan who boycotts now is basically only doing so because of the poor football post relegation and high prices, with the rebrand only being a contributing factor.
With a handful of others, I'm one of the few who boycotted since May 2012. That said, people all reach tipping points at different times. Personally, I've no time for anyone packing it in "cos the footballs a bit shit" but i'm prepared to give benefit of doubt to those who genuinely hate what the club now is. Results on the pitch should ALWAYS have been secondary, that's why I've not wanted the franchise to win so much as a throw in for the past two and a half years.
well i have alot of respect for you for sticking to you principles, and i hope you get to return to seeing CCFC in blue soon enough my friend![]()
the rest, i disagree with you. would those same fans have reached tipping point had we survived and were mid table in the PL? of course not. they are hypocrites.
Think you need to take a step back and think about the whole situation.
Tan has failed to deliver. The main deliverable was debt to equity. That is enough to justify a boycott.
Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:06 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:if you boycott now, you are a hypocrite.
if you plan to boycott supposedly because of the red, why didnt you boycott when we first changed to red? were you happy to pay to watch us in the premier league in red? any fan who boycotts now is basically only doing so because of the poor football post relegation and high prices, with the rebrand only being a contributing factor.
With a handful of others, I'm one of the few who boycotted since May 2012. That said, people all reach tipping points at different times. Personally, I've no time for anyone packing it in "cos the footballs a bit shit" but i'm prepared to give benefit of doubt to those who genuinely hate what the club now is. Results on the pitch should ALWAYS have been secondary, that's why I've not wanted the franchise to win so much as a throw in for the past two and a half years.
well i have alot of respect for you for sticking to you principles, and i hope you get to return to seeing CCFC in blue soon enough my friend![]()
the rest, i disagree with you. would those same fans have reached tipping point had we survived and were mid table in the PL? of course not. they are hypocrites.
Think you need to take a step back and think about the whole situation.
Tan has failed to deliver. The main deliverable was debt to equity. That is enough to justify a boycott.
somehow i doubt people are boycotting over tan not converting debt to equity. the issue itself it does justify a boycott i agree, but why now as opposed to a year ago? a year is plenty of time to convert the debt to equity and tan hadn't done it in time for the 2013-14 season.
i suppose seeing premier league football then was more important than boycotting over tan not converting debt to equity. and now that we're in the championship the football isn't entertaining enough so the boycott is back on, that seems to be the rationale.
Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:21 pm
alfie sherwood wrote:Respect to those who've put the time & effort into organising the protests in Jan & Feb but they are way too polite.
It's pretty clear that Tan regards supporters with utter disdain. Fans need to fight back with real venom. My personal opinion is that it's always better to die standing up than live stumbling around. It's pretty clear that he is incredibly vindictive. City fans may as well do their worst.
Boycotts should be an absolute given. You are certainly not being disloyal by boycotting - quite the opposite in fact. imo, you are being really loyal to the authentic Cardiff City.
Additionally, the real threat of match disruption also needs to cone into play. It's the ultimate form of direct action but if properly executed would create worldwide headlines and huge embarrassment to Tan.
Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:38 pm
Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:44 pm
bombs - smoke bombs - flares the lot constantly different parts of the ground different times - more entertaining than the footballThe Voice of Reason wrote:Hiya mate! Alright? wrote:alfie sherwood wrote:Respect to those who've put the time & effort into organising the protests in Jan & Feb but they are way too polite.
It's pretty clear that Tan regards supporters with utter disdain. Fans need to fight back with real venom. My personal opinion is that it's always better to die standing up than live stumbling around. It's pretty clear that he is incredibly vindictive. City fans may as well do their worst.
Boycotts should be an absolute given. You are certainly not being disloyal by boycotting - quite the opposite in fact. imo, you are being really loyal to the authentic Cardiff City.
Additionally, the real threat of match disruption also needs to cone into play. It's the ultimate form of direct action but if properly executed would create worldwide headlines and huge embarrassment to Tan.
There is a long term plan in place. Only the first 2 events have been announced so far, rest assured that if there is no positive response to the "polite" events, it goes up a gear and there's a lot more to follow![]()
Agree with Alfie and as Tan has already said today that he's not changing back, I look forward to more a more radical plan action.