Just to Remind a few people what was stated & proved wrong

Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Sam has done very nicely out of Cardiff at least we didn't have to pay the full intrest on the debt

Annis

Out of interest,where do you get that figure of £27m from?

Annis

Out of interest,where do you get that figure of £27m from?

Keith, What I know of that has been paid over the last 2 years,in instalments with interest,its not an exact figure,but approx.

Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Sam has done very nicely out of Cardiff at least we didn't have to pay the full intrest on the debt

Wez, once again u cant admit when u were wrong as well, at least I do.
No,all this money went back to the money lent by Langston.

Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


" MERRY BLUE XMAS TO ALL TRUE BLUE CITY FANS "

Sam has done very nicely out of Cardiff at least we didn't have to pay the full intrest on the debt

Wez, once again u cant admit when u were wrong as well, at least I do.
No,all this money went back to the money lent by Langston.

How are my wrong you Said we owed langstone over 40 million with intrest many Times ,Sam done well in the debt was payments to himself and his company s ,now he has had that back twice done very well he didn't lose a penny and has actually made a profit

Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


" MERRY BLUE XMAS TO ALL TRUE BLUE CITY FANS "

Sam has done very nicely out of Cardiff at least we didn't have to pay the full intrest on the debt

Wez, once again u cant admit when u were wrong as well, at least I do.
No,all this money went back to the money lent by Langston.

How are my wrong you Said we owed langstone over 40 million with intrest many Times ,Sam done well in the debt was payments to himself and his company s ,now he has had that back twice done very well he didn't lose a penny and has actually made a profit

Wez, because many said Sam/Langston would never be paid and would be done for fraud,be honest

Where was the fraud?

More money is still being paid as I post this.

Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


" MERRY BLUE XMAS TO ALL TRUE BLUE CITY FANS "

Sam has done very nicely out of Cardiff at least we didn't have to pay the full intrest on the debt

Wez, once again u cant admit when u were wrong as well, at least I do.
No,all this money went back to the money lent by Langston.

How are my wrong you Said we owed langstone over 40 million with intrest many Times ,Sam done well in the debt was payments to himself and his company s ,now he has had that back twice done very well he didn't lose a penny and has actually made a profit

Wez, because many said Sam/Langston would never be paid and would be done for fraud,be honest

Where was the fraud?

More money is still being paid as I post this.

there has been so much bullshit flying around that I dont know what to believe anymore ,the one thing for sure is Sam hasn't lost a penny and done very well out of it

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

if you believe some it s Sam and Ron nodes money

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

Sam is not Langston,he was the man who put Langston together which was a number of business people.

Yes it does matter as people like Steve Davies spouted it on here a 100 times,then when they are proved totally wrong they disappear Fair Play to Wez,wont admit he is the wrong,but still argues it,but is wrong on this one

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

Sam is not Langston,he was the man who put Langston together which was a number of business people.

Yes it does matter as people like Steve Davies spouted it on here a 100 times,then when they are proved totally wrong they disappear Fair Play to Wez,wont admit he is the wrong,but still argues it,but is wrong on this one

I must have missed the Sam fraud bit as honestly didn't know he was personally being looked at!, thought Langston were being looked At by forensic accountants? Ahh well live and learn

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

Sam is not Langston,he was the man who put Langston together which was a number of business people.

Yes it does matter as people like Steve Davies spouted it on here a 100 times,then when they are proved totally wrong they disappear Fair Play to Wez,wont admit he is the wrong,but still argues it,but is wrong on this one

I only argued about the amounts you were quoting Annis not that we owed money to them ,on many occasions you said it was 40 million plus but that wasn't true ,I still not sure that they have had 27 million I thought it was 22 million

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

Sam is not Langston,he was the man who put Langston together which was a number of business people.

Yes it does matter as people like Steve Davies spouted it on here a 100 times,then when they are proved totally wrong they disappear Fair Play to Wez,wont admit he is the wrong,but still argues it,but is wrong on this one

I only argued about the amounts you were quoting Annis not that we owed money to them ,on many occasions you said it was 40 million plus but that wasn't true ,I still not sure that they have had 27 million I thought it was 22 million

Wez, even if it's £22m though I believe it is £27m, the point is that it was said on here by a number of people that Sam would be proved to have done wrong, also Langston would not get a penny, even the club had an official statement saying Sam would never get a position back within the club.

Regarding the £40+million that Annis and I said that was owed to Langston was because the club reneged on loan note 2 and loan note 3, so loan note 1 was back in play according to Langston at time of negotiations and the question is if the club were confident that they would not need to pay a penny, then why did Tan settle for tens of millions.

It proves, at least to me anyway, that Sam did nothing illegal during his time.

Don't forget even Borley said on this forum that the paper the loan notes were written on we're not worth the cost of a tripe supper.

I know the price of gold has gone through the roof but I am starting to stockpile tripe, ready to make a fortune

Hey guys its season of goodwill to all men (except tan) let's forget it as its been and gone

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

if you believe some it s Sam and Ron nodes money

Ron Noades was part of it but it goes a lot further.

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

if you believe some it s Sam and Ron nodes money

Ron Noades was part of it but it goes a lot further.

Wrong Ian, that is a myth that was created because Noades and Sam were friends.

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

if you believe some it s Sam and Ron nodes money

Ron Noades was part of it but it goes a lot further.

Wrong Ian, that is a myth that was created because Noades and Sam were friends.

Steve day said it

Hey guys its season of goodwill to all men (except tan) let's forget it as its been and gone

Some people didn't want to forget Allan when Sam was out in the cold, been fucked over and was spat out by the majority.

Did Sam make mistakes, absolutely he did, was he a fraudster and did anything illegal then I will stand by him and argue his case that he didn't.

Don't forget we only ever heard from those claiming to represent the club what went on and never has Sam said his piece publicly.

People in this thread claim Sam did well out of Cardiff but fail to say how well the ones who tucked him up in the boardroom did.

Hey guys its season of goodwill to all men (except tan) let's forget it as its been and gone

Some people didn't want to forget Allan when Sam was out in the cold, been fucked over and was spat out by the majority.

Did Sam make mistakes, absolutely he did, was he a fraudster and did anything illegal then I will stand by him and argue his case that he didn't.

Don't forget we only ever heard from those claiming to represent the club what went on and never has Sam said his piece publicly.

People in this thread claim Sam did well out of Cardiff but fail to say how well the ones who tucked him up in the boardroom did.

Funny how these type of threads have started today hmmmmmmm

Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Spoutng your accusations on a message board again annis. For the record I said sam could never take it to court because of the association with Capitol and regional and did it go to court no
Trawl through my posts and you will find I always said sam should get only 10 million of his money back because of the stupid money he wasted on contracts on players.
As for going into hiding your board and the club have no interest for me at this moment in time I'd rather spend Saturday afternoons with my grandson watching him play football rather than the circus that exists at the moment.
My opinion on the protests is I think tan will leave eventually and at a cut price figure but out of spite will sell on a condition that the Malaysian sponsorship and red home shirts stay for a period of 5 years.
Answer me this having got rid of the dictator what would you do then with the new regime who would be bound by the contract

Does it matter at end of day he's getting paid or Lan. gston is? Wasn't it Langston the dispute was with regarding fraud ect but then Sam is Langston isn't he??

Ffs Langston/Sam who's money it was? Is more secretive than russian govmnt!

if you believe some it s Sam and Ron nodes money

Ron Noades was part of it but it goes a lot further.

It certainly does Ian a lot further Hmmmmmm

Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


" MERRY BLUE XMAS TO ALL TRUE BLUE CITY FANS "

Annis as you may remember " I drank from Sam's Well" to use one of his sayings. I helped pull him out of the mud when he was in trouble! I never doubted his love for Cardiff City or his desire to see the club be successful. He may have made mistakes and his plans may not have turned out exactly how he wanted. But I will always thank Sam for what he did at Cardiff City.

Hey guys its season of goodwill to all men (except tan) let's forget it as its been and gone

Some people didn't want to forget Allan when Sam was out in the cold, been fucked over and was spat out by the majority.

Did Sam make mistakes, absolutely he did, was he a fraudster and did anything illegal then I will stand by him and argue his case that he didn't.

Don't forget we only ever heard from those claiming to represent the club what went on and never has Sam said his piece publicly.

People in this thread claim Sam did well out of Cardiff but fail to say how well the ones who tucked him up in the boardroom did.

Carl

Did sam have the money to buy the land off the council to develop the retail park
Did Sam have the clients to take up the 60 percent of the retail park to invoke the sale of the land from the council
Did Sam have the money to develop the retail park and new athletics stadium.
Did Sam have a viable business plan to put in front of the council.

The answer to all the above is no. Sam tied in with Capitol and regional from London instead of Pmg who had local knowledge and had successfully built retail parks in Cardiff and Swansea.
If Sam had tied in with paul guy he would still be chairman of the club in my opinion.
Before your time carl but I believe if Bob grogan had not passed away he would have got us to the promised land and kept us there and out of the hands of the shysters we have had at the club the last 25 years

Steve Davies stated 100% Sam would be done for Fraud and Tan would never pay Langston, Well Tan has now paid Langston £27million, so where was the fraud?


If there was any Fraud,Tan without a doubt would of proved it,Tan Spent over £500,000 & 2 years investigating Sam & Langston and found nothing at all and you all know if Tan had found anything,what would of happened.

Ive brought this up as,it was stated time and time again,but then no comment when nothing is proved and Tan paid out,my Favourite comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Spoutng your accusations on a message board again annis. For the record I said sam could never take it to court because of the association with Capitol and regional and did it go to court no
Trawl through my posts and you will find I always said sam should get only 10 million of his money back because of the stupid money he wasted on contracts on players.
As for going into hiding your board and the club have no interest for me at this moment in time I'd rather spend Saturday afternoons with my grandson watching him play football rather than the circus that exists at the moment.
My opinion on the protests is I think tan will leave eventually and at a cut price figure but out of spite will sell on a condition that the Malaysian sponsorship and red home shirts stay for a period of 5 years.
Answer me this having got rid of the dictator what would you do then with the new regime who would be bound by the contract

If he put a condition like that on selling the club, he would never be able to sell it!!

Seem to remember hearing some where tan has stopprd paying the langstone debt hmmmmmmmmmmmm