Don't let Ole off the hook

Russell Slade is having a mare at the moment. He is incapable of changing his tactics and that is why I believe he is not the right man to see the club move forward. However, let us all remember that the players brought to the club before him by Ole have been average to terrible except Kenny Jones who in fairness has a goalscoring record that's quite good

As much as people point out 4-4-2 is not the ideal formation for the players we have, it is a damning fact that the players at present aren't good enough to play out of a 4-5-1 safety blanket, an extra man up front in theory should be terrorising the defenders. None of this is happening because they are our Oleflops.

Arsenal's invincible team played a 4-4-2 system with Bergkamp & Henry upfront, Viera & Petit bossing the midfield. Good players can make 4-4-2 work, Slade hasn't got good players so needed to revert to a 4-5-1 where the players are at their most comfortable.

Looking back on the Ole signings, not 1 of them has really enhanced the prospects of the club. As much as I rate Manga, I personally believe the centre backs we had were more than adequate at this level : Hudds, Turner & Connelly.

Upfront has been a disaster, lets be honest. The best striker at the club was signed last season, Kenny Jones. Guerra doesn't play

No improvement made in midfield - I think you need crack midfielders to play 4-4-2. You need absolute warriors in the centre midfield who are the best players at the club to cope with being over-run. The extra man upfront then comes into your favour. I'm not anti-442 if you have the right players.

Fabio is great, is he needed - not really
Sean Morrison - alright, -not needed
Le Fondre - alright- not needed
Macheda - crap
Pilks - alright player

Ole's mediocre signings puts the club in real danger of sinking to the lowest league position in years.

Slade needs to change the system for the fans to ever start respecting him. IF he is more comfortable with 4-4-2, for god's sake wait till you have the players to do it!

How long ago was that arsenal team did so well though. The game has moved on.

It may help if Slade used the players he had available instead of only looking at about 14 players and benching a few more who he never uses.

If someone takes over a squad without players to play a 4-4-2 (most squads these days) then why on earth would you play a 4-4-2, it makes no sense.

Ole may not of been a very good manager but the full squad he built has enough talent to be doing more than we currently are.

Even after Slade has destroyed our squad further in January we will still play 4-4-2 still be over run and offering no service to the front men.

How long ago was that arsenal team did so well though. The game has moved on.

It may help if Slade used the players he had available instead of only looking at about 14 players and benching a few more who he never uses.

If someone takes over a squad without players to play a 4-4-2 (most squads these days) then why on earth would you play a 4-4-2, it makes no sense.

Ole may not of been a very good manager but the full squad he built has enough talent to be doing more than we currently are.

Even after Slade has destroyed our squad further in January we will still play 4-4-2 still be over run and offering no service to the front men.

There's some fair comments, it is true that currently I can't think of any team having any success with a 4-4-2 formation. It's getting really hard to make a case for Slade when the best I can do is bring up an Arsenal team more than a decade ago

I am shifting towards your way of thinking Luke, I have exhausted any other mitigating factors for Slade

No!

For me this all says we should not be blaming Ole.

We should have given him a lot more time and support. He was trying to change us from a boring defensive minded team under Malky to a setup more akin to Man Utd in their hayday or dear I say Swansea of today.

Instead we got rid of him after two bad results and look what we've got now.

At least if we'd stuck with him we might have had a bit of hope and a more up to date outlook, rather than the despair and total lack of hope we have under Slade.

No!

For me this all says we should not be blaming Ole.

We should have given him a lot more time and support. He was trying to change us from a boring defensive minded team under Malky to a setup more akin to Man Utd in their hayday or dear I say Swansea of today.

Instead we got rid of him after two bad results and look what we've got now.

At least if we'd stuck with him we might have had a bit of hope and a more up to date outlook, rather than the despair and total lack of hope we have under Slade.

Interesting view, I have to agree the outlook is even gloomier with the present set-up. It is the case of 2 wrong'uns with Ole & Slade. They sure know how to pick them!

Its not about letting ole of the hook. He failed.
But now that slade has had more games inn the championship than ole I don't think it's adequate to blame ole for everything.
Slade haven't had a transfer window yet. Neither has the bloke at Birmingham. Or the one at fulham. Two teams that were much worse off when they sacked their manager, now only 2 points behind us.

No!

For me this all says we should not be blaming Ole.

We should have given him a lot more time and support. He was trying to change us from a boring defensive minded team under Malky to a setup more akin to Man Utd in their hayday or dear I say Swansea of today.

Instead we got rid of him after two bad results and look what we've got now.

At least if we'd stuck with him we might have had a bit of hope and a more up to date outlook, rather than the despair and total lack of hope we have under Slade.

Ole was a awful manager. It was obvious early on.

And when Ole was manager everyone was blaming Malky and when Malky was manager some blamed DJ.
A good manager should be capable of getting 14 players at least from 30 odd to perform in the Championship.

No!

For me this all says we should not be blaming Ole.

We should have given him a lot more time and support. He was trying to change us from a boring defensive minded team under Malky to a setup more akin to Man Utd in their hayday or dear I say Swansea of today.

Instead we got rid of him after two bad results and look what we've got now.

At least if we'd stuck with him we might have had a bit of hope and a more up to date outlook, rather than the despair and total lack of hope we have under Slade.

Not sure if you watched the city when Ole was in charge if you had you would have never wrote this opinion

1:wrong choice
2:can't recreut his own player only Man U rejects
3:wasted pre season
Should never had been given the chance

And when Ole was manager everyone was blaming Malky and when Malky was manager some blamed DJ.
A good manager should be capable of getting 14 players at least from 30 odd to perform in the Championship.

When Malky replaced DJ all our big names went, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke etc. They could not rise to the occasion, bottled it and left.

And when Ole was manager everyone was blaming Malky and when Malky was manager some blamed DJ.
A good manager should be capable of getting 14 players at least from 30 odd to perform in the Championship.

When Malky replaced DJ all our big names went, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke etc. They could not rise to the occasion, bottled it and left.

Slade guilty of always shifting the blame onto his predecessor. I am agreeing with Annis that after a few months you should be able to string 5 passes together! Nobody else's fault than themselves.

I done my best to defend Slade but it's very hard to argue his case for being given more time

And when Ole was manager everyone was blaming Malky and when Malky was manager some blamed DJ.
A good manager should be capable of getting 14 players at least from 30 odd to perform in the Championship.

When Malky replaced DJ all our big names went, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke etc. They could not rise to the occasion, bottled it and left.

Slade guilty of always shifting the blame onto his predecessor. I am agreeing with Annis that after a few months you should be able to string 5 passes together! Nobody else's fault than themselves.

I done my best to defend Slade but it's very hard to argue his case for being given more time

Yes Thomas,thats all Slade does is blame Ole if we dont play well,he is responsible now.

No!

For me this all says we should not be blaming Ole.

We should have given him a lot more time and support. He was trying to change us from a boring defensive minded team under Malky to a setup more akin to Man Utd in their hayday or dear I say Swansea of today.

Instead we got rid of him after two bad results and look what we've got now.

At least if we'd stuck with him we might have had a bit of hope and a more up to date outlook, rather than the despair and total lack of hope we have under Slade.

Under ole was constant dispare and disallution from the time he started until the time he left. The worst football and passion I think I've ever seen Cardiff play the guy was an absolute failure

No!

For me this all says we should not be blaming Ole.

We should have given him a lot more time and support. He was trying to change us from a boring defensive minded team under Malky to a setup more akin to Man Utd in their hayday or dear I say Swansea of today.

Instead we got rid of him after two bad results and look what we've got now.

At least if we'd stuck with him we might have had a bit of hope and a more up to date outlook, rather than the despair and total lack of hope we have under Slade.

Not sure if you watched the city when Ole was in charge if you had you would have never wrote this opinion

1:wrong choice
2:can't recreut his own player only Man U rejects
3:wasted pre season
Should never had been given the chance

He signed some good players
Manga - by far best defender at the club
Fabio
Daeli
Kenwynne(he is a good player just needs a rocket up his arse sometimes)
Le Fondre (is a good player , just lacking abit of confidence atm)

And when Ole was manager everyone was blaming Malky and when Malky was manager some blamed DJ.
A good manager should be capable of getting 14 players at least from 30 odd to perform in the Championship.

When Malky replaced DJ all our big names went, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke etc. They could not rise to the occasion, bottled it and left.

Slade guilty of always shifting the blame onto his predecessor. I am agreeing with Annis that after a few months you should be able to string 5 passes together! Nobody else's fault than themselves.

I done my best to defend Slade but it's very hard to argue his case for being given more time

He needs to look in the mirror , it's his shitty tactics that are the problem , at the beginning of the season everyone said this squad was the best ,it's just lacking leadership from a good manager. He can't keep blaming Ole. He needs to use the squad not just the handful of players he keeps using

And when Ole was manager everyone was blaming Malky and when Malky was manager some blamed DJ.
A good manager should be capable of getting 14 players at least from 30 odd to perform in the Championship.

When Malky replaced DJ all our big names went, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke etc. They could not rise to the occasion, bottled it and left.

Slade guilty of always shifting the blame onto his predecessor. I am agreeing with Annis that after a few months you should be able to string 5 passes together! Nobody else's fault than themselves.

I done my best to defend Slade but it's very hard to argue his case for being given more time

He needs to look in the mirror , it's his shitty tactics that are the problem , at the beginning of the season everyone said this squad was the best ,it's just lacking leadership from a good manager. He can't keep blaming Ole. He needs to use the squad not just the handful of players he keeps using

agree about the tactics, he needs to show something for not only us, but for the opposition to be on their toes

is it only me who thinks Ole was actually better than Slade?

is it only me who thinks Ole was actually better than Slade?

performances under slade have probably been worse, but his points return is better.

It must be getting close though swampy.

And when Ole was manager everyone was blaming Malky and when Malky was manager some blamed DJ.
A good manager should be capable of getting 14 players at least from 30 odd to perform in the Championship.

If Pullis had taken over we would have been in the playoffs, pushing for top two, no doubt, what a wasted opportunity

is it only me who thinks Ole was actually better than Slade?

I thought it was time for Ole to go but looking back now I wish we had kept faith with Ole a little longer.

Blame the players. They are the ones who suddenly can't string a few passes together.

Blame the players. They are the ones who suddenly can't string a few passes together.

its not suddenly.

is it only me who thinks Ole was actually better than Slade?

I thought it was time for Ole to go but looking back now I wish we had kept faith with Ole a little longer.

That is just wrong

Has everyone forgotten those performances under OGS ? Last season The Jacks, Hull, Sunderland, Palace, this season virtually every game under him was poor but particularly Norwich 2nd half and the Boro game where the players looked like a parks team.

Slade deserves criticism but let's not look back at OGS's time with rose tinted specs. OGS was the single worst manager I've seen in charge of a City team in 43 years of watching them. Believe me that's saying something when you've seen the likes of Durban, Hibbitt and many others in that time.

Up until the last 2 games Slade had shown some organisation skills because he stopped the rot. I'm not sure he is the right man but he certainly isn't as bad as OGS and that's even without the chance to prove himself/completely cock it up in the transfer window !!

No!

For me this all says we should not be blaming Ole.

We should have given him a lot more time and support. He was trying to change us from a boring defensive minded team under Malky to a setup more akin to Man Utd in their hayday or dear I say Swansea of today.

Instead we got rid of him after two bad results and look what we've got now.

At least if we'd stuck with him we might have had a bit of hope and a more up to date outlook, rather than the despair and total lack of hope we have under Slade.

Under ole was constant dispare and disallution from the time he started until the time he left. The worst football and passion I think I've ever seen Cardiff play the guy was an absolute failure

you obviously weren't watching the City when Alan Durban was our manager

is it only me who thinks Ole was actually better than Slade?

no, I agree so far but I will give Slade more time and a transfer window

No!

For me this all says we should not be blaming Ole.

We should have given him a lot more time and support. He was trying to change us from a boring defensive minded team under Malky to a setup more akin to Man Utd in their hayday or dear I say Swansea of today.

Instead we got rid of him after two bad results and look what we've got now.

At least if we'd stuck with him we might have had a bit of hope and a more up to date outlook, rather than the despair and total lack of hope we have under Slade.

Under ole was constant dispare and disallution from the time he started until the time he left. The worst football and passion I think I've ever seen Cardiff play the guy was an absolute failure

you obviously weren't watching the City when Alan Durban was our manager

No mate I'm 26 hence I said the worst id seen not ever