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' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS '

Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:03 am

Thanks to Dave Sugarman aka Lone Gunman :thumbright: :thumbright:


' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS ' :shock: :shock:

Yesterday's goalless draw with lowly Rotherham United meant Cardiff City have now played all of the Championship's bottom eight sides this season and it's fair to say the results against those teams have been woeful.

The stats from those eight games read as follows:

Won 1, Drawn 4, Lost 3, Scored 3, Conceded 7, Points 7.

The results in chronological order were:

1-0 v Wigan Athletic (H)
1-1 v Fulham (A)
1-1 v Brighton & Hove Albion (A)
0-1 v Blackpool (A)
0-1 v Millwall (A)
0-3 v Bolton Wanderers (A)
0-0 v Birmingham City (A)
0-0 v Rotherham United (H)

Given the amount of money that has been spent on the current squad and the attacking firepower that the team is alleged to possess, the goals scored record in those eight matches is truly abysmal. Indeed, Cardiff haven't managed to score a single goal in any of their four matches against bottom eight sides since Russell Slade became manager, and you could argue that record extends to five games as Slade was manager in all but name when the Bluebirds were beaten at Blackpool in October.

To put City's record against the relegation-threatened sides into some sort of perspective, the fact is that bottom club Blackpool have scored twice as many goals as the Bluebirds in their seven matches against their fellow strugglers and have attained the same number of points (7).

Re: ' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS '

Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:23 am

Millwall beating us is there only win in their last 16 games :shock:

Re: ' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS '

Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:52 am

Always been poor generally against lower placed teams over past 3yrs and more! :o

What about stats against top sides? :thumbup:

Re: ' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS '

Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:31 am

pembroke allan wrote:Always been poor generally against lower placed teams over past 3yrs and more! :o

What about stats against top sides? :thumbup:


Yes put them out Allan,will be an interesting read :thumbright:

Re: ' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS '

Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:55 am

Problem is, you can't just put 11 men on the field in their preferred positions and let them play anymore, those days are long gone, you need a manager with a tactical brain to let them know how to beat the opposition. Unfortunately, we haven't had a great tactical manager since DJ (imo)

Malky was good, but far too defensive, we looked solid at times, but didnt offer much going forward, which left us to rely heavily on the likes of Noone and Mutch to make it happen for us.

I genuinely believe Pulis would have gotten a lot more from our squad than Ole, Slade or even Malky ever could. But let's just give RS some time to form his own squad, and see how he does, I really do like RS and we are currently unbeaten at home, playing better away, grabbed our first win on the road.... signs are positive, whether you like him or not.

Yes I would've preferred Pulis over him, we all would, but i'm reserving full judgement until the end of this season.

Re: ' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS '

Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:03 pm

JamesC wrote:Problem is, you can't just put 11 men on the field in their preferred positions and let them play anymore, those days are long gone, you need a manager with a tactical brain to let them know how to beat the opposition. Unfortunately, we haven't had a great tactical manager since DJ (imo)

Malky was good, but far too defensive, we looked solid at times, but didnt offer much going forward, which left us to rely heavily on the likes of Noone and Mutch to make it happen for us.

I genuinely believe Pulis would have gotten a lot more from our squad than Ole, Slade or even Malky ever could. But let's just give RS some time to form his own squad, and see how he does, I really do like RS and we are currently unbeaten at home, playing better away, grabbed our first win on the road.... signs are positive, whether you like him or not.

Yes I would've preferred Pulis over him, we all would, but i'm reserving full judgement until the end of this season.


Tony Pulis would of got the results, he has something about him that players respond to :ayatollah: :ayatollah: for such a great business man, Tan's ego has really botched up his attempts to be a success in football

Re: ' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS '

Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:06 pm

ThomasC wrote:
JamesC wrote:Problem is, you can't just put 11 men on the field in their preferred positions and let them play anymore, those days are long gone, you need a manager with a tactical brain to let them know how to beat the opposition. Unfortunately, we haven't had a great tactical manager since DJ (imo)

Malky was good, but far too defensive, we looked solid at times, but didnt offer much going forward, which left us to rely heavily on the likes of Noone and Mutch to make it happen for us.

I genuinely believe Pulis would have gotten a lot more from our squad than Ole, Slade or even Malky ever could. But let's just give RS some time to form his own squad, and see how he does, I really do like RS and we are currently unbeaten at home, playing better away, grabbed our first win on the road.... signs are positive, whether you like him or not.

Yes I would've preferred Pulis over him, we all would, but i'm reserving full judgement until the end of this season.


Tony Pulis would of got the results, he has something about him that players respond to :ayatollah: :ayatollah: for such a great business man, Tan's ego has really botched up his attempts to be a success in football


In all fairness to VT, I can understand him not wanting to hire a man who was involved in an incident which has ended in (I think) legal action taken against him club (or FA action... whichever)

Business-wise, yes it would have made sense, football is a results business, and you need the best manager to get those results, but VT is a proud man who won't bow to anyone. If he wouldn't listen to thousands of fans demanding a return to blue, he won't allow TP into his club, and I understand his reasoning. I'm not condoning it at all, just saying, I get it.

But I agree, TP would have us in the top 6 by now (IMO) and pushing for auto promotion.

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Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:22 pm

JamesC wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
JamesC wrote:Problem is, you can't just put 11 men on the field in their preferred positions and let them play anymore, those days are long gone, you need a manager with a tactical brain to let them know how to beat the opposition. Unfortunately, we haven't had a great tactical manager since DJ (imo)

Malky was good, but far too defensive, we looked solid at times, but didnt offer much going forward, which left us to rely heavily on the likes of Noone and Mutch to make it happen for us.

I genuinely believe Pulis would have gotten a lot more from our squad than Ole, Slade or even Malky ever could. But let's just give RS some time to form his own squad, and see how he does, I really do like RS and we are currently unbeaten at home, playing better away, grabbed our first win on the road.... signs are positive, whether you like him or not.

Yes I would've preferred Pulis over him, we all would, but i'm reserving full judgement until the end of this season.


Tony Pulis would of got the results, he has something about him that players respond to :ayatollah: :ayatollah: for such a great business man, Tan's ego has really botched up his attempts to be a success in football


In all fairness to VT, I can understand him not wanting to hire a man who was involved in an incident which has ended in (I think) legal action taken against him club (or FA action... whichever)

Business-wise, yes it would have made sense, football is a results business, and you need the best manager to get those results, but VT is a proud man who won't bow to anyone. If he wouldn't listen to thousands of fans demanding a return to blue, he won't allow TP into his club, and I understand his reasoning. I'm not condoning it at all, just saying, I get it.

But I agree, TP would have us in the top 6 by now (IMO) and pushing for auto promotion.


It's a difficult one James as the Cardiff supporters don't really blame Pulis at all for getting insider info, I personally would be more concerned with the leaks within my club rather than outsiders seeking to attain info.

Tan should want to hire a man who is a self-confessed fan of the club

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Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:24 pm

I absolutely agree with you Tom :thumbup: Like I say, not condoning his decision, it was a poor one, I just understand his position from his attitude.

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Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:28 pm

JamesC wrote:I absolutely agree with you Tom :thumbup: Like I say, not condoning his decision, it was a poor one, I just understand his position from his attitude.


one thing is for sure is that Tan should meet people like Pulis at the interview process, all bad feeling would of surely been settled quickly. Really not liking the head-hunting approach by Dalman & Tan, Roeder chose Slade as part of his consultancy fee, he could of had a free consultancy from the fans, Pulis In!! :lol: :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS '

Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:29 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Thanks to Dave Sugarman aka Lone Gunman :thumbright: :thumbright:


' CARDIFF'S TERRIBLE RESULTS V THE WORSE TEAMS ' :shock: :shock:

Yesterday's goalless draw with lowly Rotherham United meant Cardiff City have now played all of the Championship's bottom eight sides this season and it's fair to say the results against those teams have been woeful.

The stats from those eight games read as follows:

Won 1, Drawn 4, Lost 3, Scored 3, Conceded 7, Points 7.

The results in chronological order were:

1-0 v Wigan Athletic (H)
1-1 v Fulham (A)
1-1 v Brighton & Hove Albion (A)
0-1 v Blackpool (A)
0-1 v Millwall (A)
0-3 v Bolton Wanderers (A)
0-0 v Birmingham City (A)
0-0 v Rotherham United (H)

Given the amount of money that has been spent on the current squad and the attacking firepower that the team is alleged to possess, the goals scored record in those eight matches is truly abysmal. Indeed, Cardiff haven't managed to score a single goal in any of their four matches against bottom eight sides since Russell Slade became manager, and you could argue that record extends to five games as Slade was manager in all but name when the Bluebirds were beaten at Blackpool in October.

To put City's record against the relegation-threatened sides into some sort of perspective, the fact is that bottom club Blackpool have scored twice as many goals as the Bluebirds in their seven matches against their fellow strugglers and have attained the same number of points (7).



That's why when everybody was saying we were going to beat Rotheram four nil, I disagreed and said it would be hard, I am not sure why but for years we have done well against the top teams and struggled against the shit ones.

I do think some of our fans expectations make them turn on the team quickly, and when we do that the players feel the pressure and always play worse, I would say that has an big effect on our results.

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Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:10 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Always been poor generally against lower placdoubt t in top 8 teams over past 3yrs and more! :o

What about stats against top sides? :thumbup:


Yes put them out Allan,will be an interesting read :thumbright:


I took s look and believe it or not top 8 teams we have played was most in aug/sep and none in top 8 at time, except Watford!
Have put in thread some stats :thumbup:

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Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:00 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Always been poor generally against lower placdoubt t in top 8 teams over past 3yrs and more! :o

What about stats against top sides? :thumbup:


Yes put them out Allan,will be an interesting read :thumbright:


I took s look and believe it or not top 8 teams we have played was most in aug/sep and none in top 8 at time, except Watford!
Have put in thread some stats :thumbup:

:thumbright:

Allan, We now need to get results at Bournemouth & Charlton and Brentford & Watford home :thumbright:

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Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:04 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Always been poor generally against lower placdoubt t in top 8 teams over past 3yrs and more! :o

What about stats against top sides? :thumbup:


Yes put them out Allan,will be an interesting read :thumbright:


I took s look and believe it or not top 8 teams we have played was most in aug/sep and none in top 8 at time, except Watford!
Have put in thread some stats :thumbup:

:thumbright:

Allan, We now need to get results at Bournemouth & Charlton and Brentford & Watford home :thumbright:


Well more than 4pnts Annis will be good considering our poor performances so far! As I pointed out only played Watford recently who are above us all the rest were below us at time of playing them in sept/Aug .

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Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:27 pm

Consistently poor against the poor teams, bad day at the office? when will we see a good one ???

Mid table anonymity this year will next years seasons ticket prices reflect this?