Forget Daelhi, where is Guido Burgstaller

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

At times Gunnarsson and Whittingham seem to be starting whatever their performances are like. And there have been a large amount of dire games from the two. They are untouchable it seems.

This is the most confusing one for me. Slade is a 442 manager that likes to get stuck in and we lack so much fight in midfield at times with these two. He is exactly what we need. Start him. Or bring him on from the bench. Otherwise who do we have in central midfield with Adayemi out alllllll the time, Dikachoi (who?!) and Ralls (who is too light weight and has questionable ability at his young age)? No one.

But he is allowed to rot in the reserves. Why. Don't tell me he is crap because not performance from him has suggested he couldn't play a big part.

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

The first like 8 games or so we were total crap. He was the most dependable player during this time. He was consistent when all the others looked like a conference team.

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

The first like 8 games or so we were total crap. He was the most dependable player during this time. He was consistent when all the others looked like a conference team.

played 20m v blackburn
started v huddersfield (first off after 55m)
not on bench v wigan
came on after 66m v wolves
not on bench v fulham
not on bench v norwich
unused sub v boro


Like i said, laughable.



Oh hang on, he did have one good game v coventry to be fair.

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

Why is it laughable? Top Austrian player with international experience. One of our best players in the pre season. Big lad with physique for the championship. Should absolutely been given a run with the levels of performance Noone and Pilkington have been producing. Another outcast that shows Slade isn't right in the head.

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

Why is it laughable? Top Austrian player with international experience. One of our best players in the pre season. Big lad with physique for the championship. Should absolutely been given a run with the levels of performance Noone and Pilkington have been producing. Another outcast that shows Slade isn't right in the head.

wolff, its not the point im making, not saying he hasnt got the potential, and also i should add that he was practically an outcast when your hero Ole was still in charge.

Zlatan seems to think he was one of our best players under ole.... which is just a bizarre thing to say about someone who started 1 game

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

Why is it laughable? Top Austrian player with international experience. One of our best players in the pre season. Big lad with physique for the championship. Should absolutely been given a run with the levels of performance Noone and Pilkington have been producing. Another outcast that shows Slade isn't right in the head.

wolff, its not the point im making, not saying he hasnt got the potential, and also i should add that he was practically an outcast when your hero Ole was still in charge.

Zlatan seems to think he was one of our best players under ole.... which is just a bizarre thing to say about someone who started 1 game

So you are making no points then.. The fact is he showed a lot of promise the games he played for us, and was by no chance an outcast. But under Slade a lot of players are, even talented ones are million miles away from a chance to show what they can do.
Ole is of no relevance, we are here now, with a league one manager, with a coaching A license. We just have to wait and see what kind of players he will be able to attract, but my guess they are nothing like Burgstaller. Does Burgstaller get to play DVP games and fight for a spot to?

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

Why is it laughable? Top Austrian player with international experience. One of our best players in the pre season. Big lad with physique for the championship. Should absolutely been given a run with the levels of performance Noone and Pilkington have been producing. Another outcast that shows Slade isn't right in the head.

wolff, its not the point im making, not saying he hasnt got the potential, and also i should add that he was practically an outcast when your hero Ole was still in charge.

Zlatan seems to think he was one of our best players under ole.... which is just a bizarre thing to say about someone who started 1 game

So you are making no points then.. The fact is he showed a lot of promise the games he played for us, and was by no chance an outcast. But under Slade a lot of players are, even talented ones are million miles away from a chance to show what they can do.
Ole is of no relevance, we are here now, with a league one manager, with a coaching A license. We just have to wait and see what kind of players he will be able to attract, but my guess they are nothing like Burgstaller. Does Burgstaller get to play DVP games and fight for a spot to?

you come across as such a bitter man who has thrown his toys out of the pram when ole got fired for being garbage! why are you still stalking around cardiff forums?


he didnt show a lot of promise at all, he's had one good game and looked ok, in everything else, and by everything else i mean the brief subs appearances he made, better than some, worse than others. to suggest, as zlatan was, that he was one of our best players under ole is re-writing history.

oh, and slade is a championship manager now, keep up at the back!

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

Why is it laughable? Top Austrian player with international experience. One of our best players in the pre season. Big lad with physique for the championship. Should absolutely been given a run with the levels of performance Noone and Pilkington have been producing. Another outcast that shows Slade isn't right in the head.

wolff, its not the point im making, not saying he hasnt got the potential, and also i should add that he was practically an outcast when your hero Ole was still in charge.

Zlatan seems to think he was one of our best players under ole.... which is just a bizarre thing to say about someone who started 1 game

So you are making no points then.. The fact is he showed a lot of promise the games he played for us, and was by no chance an outcast. But under Slade a lot of players are, even talented ones are million miles away from a chance to show what they can do.
Ole is of no relevance, we are here now, with a league one manager, with a coaching A license. We just have to wait and see what kind of players he will be able to attract, but my guess they are nothing like Burgstaller. Does Burgstaller get to play DVP games and fight for a spot to?

you come across as such a bitter man who has thrown his toys out of the pram when ole got fired for being garbage! why are you still stalking around cardiff forums?


he didnt show a lot of promise at all, he's had one good game and looked ok, in everything else, and by everything else i mean the brief subs appearances he made, better than some, worse than others. to suggest, as zlatan was, that he was one of our best players under ole is re-writing history.

oh, and slade is a championship manager now, keep up at the back!

I see you are just another one that docent recognize a good player when you see one.. The only bitter man i see is you. All you do is going around criticizing posters and defend Slade when some have questions about him. But you didn't answer my question.
Does Burgstaller get the chance to fight for a place in the team? Do he play DVP games? Or isn't he good enough for that either?
If he is the best or not is irrelevant. He is by far good enough to be able to fight for a spot!

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

The first like 8 games or so we were total crap. He was the most dependable player during this time. He was consistent when all the others looked like a conference team.

played 20m v blackburn
started v huddersfield (first off after 55m)
not on bench v wigan
came on after 66m v wolves
not on bench v fulham
not on bench v norwich
unused sub v boro


Like i said, laughable.



Oh hang on, he did have one good game v coventry to be fair.

I see you are just another one that docent recognize a good player when you see one.. The only bitter man i see is you. All you do is going around criticizing posters and defend Slade when some have questions about him. But you didn't answer my question.
Does Burgstaller get the chance to fight for a place in the team? Do he play DVP games? Or isn't he good enough for that either?
If he is the best or not is irrelevant. He is by far good enough to be able to fight for a spot!

again wolff, you are bringing up non relevant points to the topic. Nowhere have i said that Burgstaller isnt a good player, and obviously he's someone who should be good enough to at least be considered yes. But unlike you, i lay the blame fully on the door of Ole for bringing him here in the first place.

Ole bought him, didnt play him and had him out of the 18 completely in almost half the games he was in charge for. so now we can clearly see what Ole thought of him. New manager comes in and wants to simplify things, and this means moving players out, burgstaller is a number 1 canditate as hes already not playing. Is it fair? perhaps not, but then we have exactly struggled without him either.

Ill say agian, none of it has anythng to do with Zlatans/Marios point, that Burgstaller was one of our better players under ole, and ive already given the reasons why that was laughable.

I see you are just another one that docent recognize a good player when you see one.. The only bitter man i see is you. All you do is going around criticizing posters and defend Slade when some have questions about him. But you didn't answer my question.
Does Burgstaller get the chance to fight for a place in the team? Do he play DVP games? Or isn't he good enough for that either?
If he is the best or not is irrelevant. He is by far good enough to be able to fight for a spot!

again wolff, you are bringing up non relevant points to the topic. Nowhere have i said that Burgstaller isnt a good player, and obviously he's someone who should be good enough to at least be considered yes. But unlike you, i lay the blame fully on the door of Ole for bringing him here in the first place.

Ole bought him, didnt play him and had him out of the 18 completely in almost half the games he was in charge for. so now we can clearly see what Ole thought of him. New manager comes in and wants to simplify things, and this means moving players out, burgstaller is a number 1 canditate as hes already not playing. Is it fair? perhaps not, but then we have exactly struggled without him either.

Ill say agian, none of it has anythng to do with Zlatans/Marios point, that Burgstaller was one of our better players under ole, and ive already given the reasons why that was laughable.

It really is uphill to make sense of your posting mate. You keep to the irrelevant and i don't understand half of your writing. He was a cheap player to buy, probably on low wages, and that is the basis you should worry about if you agree he is not given a fair shot. Its strange not more question how quick some of these players where not contenders for a spot and worry about what is going on.

I haven't seen him play badly.

I see you are just another one that docent recognize a good player when you see one.. The only bitter man i see is you. All you do is going around criticizing posters and defend Slade when some have questions about him. But you didn't answer my question.
Does Burgstaller get the chance to fight for a place in the team? Do he play DVP games? Or isn't he good enough for that either?
If he is the best or not is irrelevant. He is by far good enough to be able to fight for a spot!

again wolff, you are bringing up non relevant points to the topic. Nowhere have i said that Burgstaller isnt a good player, and obviously he's someone who should be good enough to at least be considered yes. But unlike you, i lay the blame fully on the door of Ole for bringing him here in the first place.

Ole bought him, didnt play him and had him out of the 18 completely in almost half the games he was in charge for. so now we can clearly see what Ole thought of him. New manager comes in and wants to simplify things, and this means moving players out, burgstaller is a number 1 canditate as hes already not playing. Is it fair? perhaps not, but then we have exactly struggled without him either.

Ill say agian, none of it has anythng to do with Zlatans/Marios point, that Burgstaller was one of our better players under ole, and ive already given the reasons why that was laughable.

It really is uphill to make sense of your posting mate. You keep to the irrelevant and i don't understand half of your writing. He was a cheap player to buy, probably on low wages, and that is the basis you should worry about if you agree he is not given a fair shot. Its strange not more question how quick some of these players where not contenders for a spot and worry about what is going on.

ok wolff.

I haven't seen him play badly.

probably because he's hardly played.

I've seen enough.

You kind of prove my point. You can hardly call him bad as he has had little play time.

When I said "best player" I meant form, not in overall ability!!.

I've seen enough.

You kind of prove my point. You can hardly call him bad as he has had little play time.

i've never called him a bad player, my issue was with you calling him one of our best after about 100 minutes of football this season

I thought he was ok, tidy, lacked a bit of natural pace to be a key player. I dont think he deserves to be totally frozen out though. I refuse to believe he isnt a better option than 3 CB's on the bench.

He is a good player although lacking in pace as a winger. He is on the list to go so isn't being considered it's probably as simple as that. He could be very unhappy here and possibly even and has asked to go in January who knows for sure.

Daelhi is part of the playing squad so only reasonable he would be preferred. If Guido got the place ahead of him then Daelhi will definitely be looking to go in January

A read the first line and stopped reading. Best player at our club?

Burgstaller came with promise like quite a few others, Guerra, Cala, Daehli.... Start of the season you would have though these 4 would make the backbone of the team. One has gone and the other 3 could be on their way.

Makes you wonder how much we all know about football or is there something wrong.

I thought he was ok, tidy, lacked a bit of natural pace to be a key player. I dont think he deserves to be totally frozen out though. I refuse to believe he isnt a better option than 3 CB's on the bench.

Ye, this probably sums it up.

Edit: forget my post! misunderstood!!

I tend to agree with Scandinavianbluebird on this.
I don't see Burgstaller getting a chance at all & for a proven international from a decent club I find it strange. I'm pretty sure Slade won't get a cheap player from league 1 as good as this guy.
I think at this level he could be a great squad/first team player.
He's not an out an out winger either, he's a wide midfield player.

Burgstaller was possibly the best player at the club until Ole got sacked.

havent bothered reading the rest, this is laughable

I agree,, I've never seen him play well ,,

Back on the Burger Stall

I see you are just another one that docent recognize a good player when you see one.. The only bitter man i see is you. All you do is going around criticizing posters and defend Slade when some have questions about him. But you didn't answer my question.
Does Burgstaller get the chance to fight for a place in the team? Do he play DVP games? Or isn't he good enough for that either?
If he is the best or not is irrelevant. He is by far good enough to be able to fight for a spot!

again wolff, you are bringing up non relevant points to the topic. Nowhere have i said that Burgstaller isnt a good player, and obviously he's someone who should be good enough to at least be considered yes. But unlike you, i lay the blame fully on the door of Ole for bringing him here in the first place.

Ole bought him, didnt play him and had him out of the 18 completely in almost half the games he was in charge for. so now we can clearly see what Ole thought of him. New manager comes in and wants to simplify things, and this means moving players out, burgstaller is a number 1 canditate as hes already not playing. Is it fair? perhaps not, but then we have exactly struggled without him either.

Ill say agian, none of it has anythng to do with Zlatans/Marios point, that Burgstaller was one of our better players under ole, and ive already given the reasons why that was laughable.

If Slade simply wants to move players out and simplify things can we assume that he won't therefore bring anyone in when January comes round.

I see you are just another one that docent recognize a good player when you see one.. The only bitter man i see is you. All you do is going around criticizing posters and defend Slade when some have questions about him. But you didn't answer my question.
Does Burgstaller get the chance to fight for a place in the team? Do he play DVP games? Or isn't he good enough for that either?
If he is the best or not is irrelevant. He is by far good enough to be able to fight for a spot!

again wolff, you are bringing up non relevant points to the topic. Nowhere have i said that Burgstaller isnt a good player, and obviously he's someone who should be good enough to at least be considered yes. But unlike you, i lay the blame fully on the door of Ole for bringing him here in the first place.

Ole bought him, didnt play him and had him out of the 18 completely in almost half the games he was in charge for. so now we can clearly see what Ole thought of him. New manager comes in and wants to simplify things, and this means moving players out, burgstaller is a number 1 canditate as hes already not playing. Is it fair? perhaps not, but then we have exactly struggled without him either.

Ill say agian, none of it has anythng to do with Zlatans/Marios point, that Burgstaller was one of our better players under ole, and ive already given the reasons why that was laughable.

If Slade simply wants to move players out and simplify things can we assume that he won't therefore bring anyone in when January comes round.

not really. Letting about 10 players go and bringing in 2 for example is still simplfying things. Ravel and Cala are two already gone/going

add (hopefully) Kim, velikonja, eikrem, guerra, burgstaller thats 7 and things are starting to look a little better