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Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:14 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-30325151

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:55 am

swarming with dirty terrorists down here these days I Dont trust any hardcore muslims who don't socialise with the community well

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:12 am

sloper_road_legend wrote:swarming with dirty terrorists down here these days I Dont trust any hardcore muslims who don't socialise with the community well


It's getting worse but the lefties will still call us racist for speaking against them.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:14 am

murphy wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:swarming with dirty terrorists down here these days I Dont trust any hardcore muslims who don't socialise with the community well


It's getting worse but the lefties will still call us racist for speaking against them.



depends doesnt it?

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:27 am

murphy wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:swarming with dirty terrorists down here these days I Dont trust any hardcore muslims who don't socialise with the community well


It's getting worse but the lefties will still call us racist for speaking against them.


Go and do some research. More people die from nut allergies per year than from terror attacks.

Something like 23% of the world are Muslims, if you then take into account the number or terror attacks and arrests per year, it works out that roughly 0.08% of Muslims are terrorists.

I don't think you are racist, I just don't think you have much knowledge or education in this department and that your opinions are based on what the world media tells you.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:18 pm

A block wrote:
murphy wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:swarming with dirty terrorists down here these days I Dont trust any hardcore muslims who don't socialise with the community well


It's getting worse but the lefties will still call us racist for speaking against them.


Go and do some research. More people die from nut allergies per year than from terror attacks.

Something like 23% of the world are Muslims, if you then take into account the number or terror attacks and arrests per year, it works out that roughly 0.08% of Muslims are terrorists.

I don't think you are racist, I just don't think you have much knowledge or education in this department and that your opinions are based on what the world media tells you.



Whilst i don't agree with the above posters suggesting Cardiff has a significant problem, if anything the figures you quoted (not sure where you got them from however) simply emphasise just how huge the problem is in terms of the scale of Muslim extremism.

Lets do the sums according to your statistics:

World population = 7.2 billion
muslim population = 1.65 billion (23%)
No. of Muslim terrorists = 1.32 million (0.08%)

Do you not agree that a potential army of 1.3 million people intent on killing & maiming innocent people, and destroying western civilisation is a huge worry, or will the number have to increase to 10 million, or 50 million maybe before you acknowledge it's a problem.

Let's be frank. There are huge numbers of muslims that share a philosophy that can only be satisfied by eradicating infidels (non muslims). Unfortunately, a significant number of UK muslims also share the view that unless you're a muslim, you are worthless infidel scum. Are you comfortable with that, or do you agree we should be tackling this genuine problem a lot more seriously?

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:37 pm

A perfect response blueboo.

The thing is with nut allergies, once you know you have one you can have your fate in your own hands and avoid them. This is a major, major problem and its not just Muslim extremists that hold these views, millions upon millions of muslims do but never act on it. There have been a high number of terrorism arrests in Cardiff just over the last few years so it may be better to count how many Muslims in Cardiff (11,000) and then count how many arrests on terrorism have been made in the City. And lets nit be naive enough to think every muslim harbouring terrorist views have been arrested. The problem is huge and we need to get tough.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:46 pm

I count 16 arrests in Cardiff on terrorism in the last 5 years, it was a quick google search but may be wrong. But something that also came up is that a Jihadist fighting with ISIS was based just yards from a "Cardiff terrorist cell" (so i assume there is far far more than 16). But going on 16 it means 1 in every 687 muslims in Cardiff is an extremist. Although in reality the figure is far more worrying as this only counts arrests.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:47 pm

TheRow wrote:I count 16 arrests in Cardiff on terrorism in the last 5 years, it was a quick google search but may be wrong. But something that also came up is that a Jihadist fighting with ISIS was based just yards from a "Cardiff terrorist cell" (so i assume there is far far more than 16). But going on 16 it means 1 in every 687 muslims in Cardiff is an extremist. Although in reality the figure is far more worrying as this only counts arrests.



an arrest is different from an actual conviction though, does this take that into account?

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:48 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
TheRow wrote:I count 16 arrests in Cardiff on terrorism in the last 5 years, it was a quick google search but may be wrong. But something that also came up is that a Jihadist fighting with ISIS was based just yards from a "Cardiff terrorist cell" (so i assume there is far far more than 16). But going on 16 it means 1 in every 687 muslims in Cardiff is an extremist. Although in reality the figure is far more worrying as this only counts arrests.



an arrest is different from an actual conviction though, does this take that into account?


Getting convictions on terror are extremely hard because in order to be effective the arrest must happen prior to an attack. So with no obvious crime committed most arrests do not end up in a conviction.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:59 pm

What I can never understand with most of these muslims and other people who hate this country and the west so much is, .........why don't they all piss off abroad to another country that they support or like. Oh no they will stay here and get all the benefits of living in a democratic country with free speech and housing, but keep on complaining.
And all you people who bury your heads in the sand and say we don't have a problem in this country both with radical muslims, and indeed the far right are burying your heads in the sand.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:20 pm

Blueboo wrote:
A block wrote:
murphy wrote:
sloper_road_legend wrote:swarming with dirty terrorists down here these days I Dont trust any hardcore muslims who don't socialise with the community well


It's getting worse but the lefties will still call us racist for speaking against them.


Go and do some research. More people die from nut allergies per year than from terror attacks.

Something like 23% of the world are Muslims, if you then take into account the number or terror attacks and arrests per year, it works out that roughly 0.08% of Muslims are terrorists.

I don't think you are racist, I just don't think you have much knowledge or education in this department and that your opinions are based on what the world media tells you.



Whilst i don't agree with the above posters suggesting Cardiff has a significant problem, if anything the figures you quoted (not sure where you got them from however) simply emphasise just how huge the problem is in terms of the scale of Muslim extremism.

Lets do the sums according to your statistics:

World population = 7.2 billion
muslim population = 1.65 billion (23%)
No. of Muslim terrorists = 1.32 million (0.08%)

Do you not agree that a potential army of 1.3 million people intent on killing & maiming innocent people, and destroying western civilisation is a huge worry, or will the number have to increase to 10 million, or 50 million maybe before you acknowledge it's a problem.

Let's be frank. There are huge numbers of muslims that share a philosophy that can only be satisfied by eradicating infidels (non muslims). Unfortunately, a significant number of UK muslims also share the view that unless you're a muslim, you are worthless infidel scum. Are you comfortable with that, or do you agree we should be tackling this genuine problem a lot more seriously?


Great post blueboo.
People just bury their heads in the sand.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:59 pm

these arrests represent the very tip of the iceberg of a problem which will get much worse in the future as the muslim population in this country continues to increase.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:29 am

SwampCCFC wrote:these arrests represent the very tip of the iceberg of a problem which will get much worse in the future as the muslim population in this country continues to increase.


:thumbup:

Because they breed like rabbits, and keep drawing the benefits.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:59 pm

The one guy Saj they have known about for ages, they did a TV programme about him and has been working at Royal Mail

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:39 pm

Mr Bean wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:these arrests represent the very tip of the iceberg of a problem which will get much worse in the future as the muslim population in this country continues to increase.


:thumbup:

Because they breed like rabbits, and keep drawing the benefits.


Ooo you can't say that!
The racist police on here will be up in arms mate! :lol:

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:57 pm

2blue2handle wrote:The one guy Saj they have known about for ages, they did a TV programme about him and has been working at Royal Mail


Now there's a nation of hate that needs to be purged.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:07 pm

All found with offensive weapons supposed to be this seasons red shirts - surely VT. don't want to be related with these and immediately return back to Blue racist issues surely terrorists much more offending to uk public :oops:

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:32 am

SwampCCFC wrote:these arrests represent the very tip of the iceberg of a problem which will get much worse in the future as the muslim population in this country continues to increase.


In 1967 there was one mosque and now there's 1,600 and growing. The number 1 boy name this year in the UK is Mohammed.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:53 am

Denzil wrote:What I can never understand with most of these muslims and other people who hate this country and the west so much is, .........why don't they all piss off abroad to another country that they support or like. Oh no they will stay here and get all the benefits of living in a democratic country with free speech and housing, but keep on complaining.
And all you people who bury your heads in the sand and say we don't have a problem in this country both with radical muslims, and indeed the far right are burying your heads in the sand.


Agree....but you need to understand that the reason they don't piss off is because they are on a mission to take over this country.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:23 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Denzil wrote:What I can never understand with most of these muslims and other people who hate this country and the west so much is, .........why don't they all piss off abroad to another country that they support or like. Oh no they will stay here and get all the benefits of living in a democratic country with free speech and housing, but keep on complaining.
And all you people who bury your heads in the sand and say we don't have a problem in this country both with radical muslims, and indeed the far right are burying your heads in the sand.


Agree....but you need to understand that the reason they don't piss off is because they are on a mission to take over this country.


And this will happen one day. Just look at Grangetown now to what it was as an example.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:20 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Denzil wrote:What I can never understand with most of these muslims and other people who hate this country and the west so much is, .........why don't they all piss off abroad to another country that they support or like. Oh no they will stay here and get all the benefits of living in a democratic country with free speech and housing, but keep on complaining.
And all you people who bury your heads in the sand and say we don't have a problem in this country both with radical muslims, and indeed the far right are burying your heads in the sand.


Agree....but you need to understand that the reason they don't piss off is because they are on a mission to take over this country.


And this will happen one day. Just look at Grangetown now to what it was as an example.


yeah its a simple numbers game.

even if 1 in 100 are radicals, thats a huge number given theres probably 3,000,000+ muslims in the UK . especially as those radicals will have 6+ children each.

Re: Cardiff arrests terror suspects

Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:56 pm

I am no racist

BUT

It will only get worse - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrA_9SoCitk

Blooobirds Forever !!! :bluescarf: :old: