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why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:48 pm

This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:51 pm

wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Wez, this season, Matt has hardly been given a chance or a proper run in the team.

Prsonally, I feel Matt, is a high quality Championship player, gives his all,still learning,young,honest and will succeed :thumbright:

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:52 pm

Because he may be a bit light..........he may be a bit young.........but in some games he has put more effort and fight in than some of our more experienced pro's.........we do like a tryer you know. Add to that he can actually play a bit of football and you get the idea. :thumbup:

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:58 pm

wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board

Mate, I don't understand people who write off a clearly talented teenager on the basis of a slightly more than a handful of games in this division. :thumbup:

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:09 pm

wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board



He may well be lightweight but the difference is he can actually unlock hard defences to break down. He has the skill and trickery to do that and unfortunately we are not blessed with many players with those attributes.

Saying that, there seems a reluctance for Slade to pick skilful players (e'.g ravel Morrison, Guerra)so there would be little surprise if Daehli was to be sold. Kimbo is a similar player and he has not had a look in either.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:29 pm

He should at least be on the bench to allow him the opportunity to prove himself.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:30 pm

2blue2handle wrote:He should at least be on the bench to allow him the opportunity to prove himself.


Spot on Luke :thumbright: but its personal by Tan, Slades boss, I forgot weve got Gabbidon now instead :lol:

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:56 pm

He hasn't proved himself this season but that kid has magic in his boots! He has looked lightweight but quality always shines through in the end!

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:07 pm

Guys, I can only try my best - if the manager isn't picking me there's not a lot I can do...

I don't think he's had much of a chance to adapt to the Championship yet. Definitely a great player with good potential.

We're never satisfied as fans - when we got promoted, we were ripping into all the Championship level battlers we had and said they weren't good enough...

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:08 pm

Matt D wrote:Guys, I can only try my best - if the manager isn't picking me there's not a lot I can do...

I don't think he's had much of a chance to adapt to the Championship yet. Definitely a great player with good potential.

We're never satisfied as fans - when we got promoted, we were ripping into all the Championship level battlers we had and said they weren't good enough...



Some people are never happy I agree

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:28 pm

wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board



He's been played out of position in an unorganised team playing poor. Anyone with a football brain can see he's class.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:37 pm

nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board



He's been played out of position in an unorganised team playing poor. Anyone with a football brain can see he's class.
what is his Correct position then ?

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:44 pm

wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Probably because he's the most technically gifted player to have been at the club in recent years... He runs the show for his country when he's played just behind the strikers in a free role. He's no winger. But I forgot, the club can't do no wrong to you, can it.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:45 pm

wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board



He's been played out of position in an unorganised team playing poor. Anyone with a football brain can see he's class.
what is his Correct position then ?


Most believe just behind the striker, he can play centre with support and while I don't think hrs set the world alight out wide I do think he can play in this position as he does for Norway, but we need to be pressing and higher up the pitch like we do at home.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:48 pm

seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Probably because he's the most technically gifted player to have been at the club in recent years... He runs the show for his country when he's played just behind the strikers in a free role. He's no winger. But I forgot, the club can't do no wrong to you, can it.

If we gave him free role we would be battered on the pitch he just doesn't fit in to our system ,this season he has looked very lightweight

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:53 pm

wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


You have taken a bit of a hammering here Wez. :crazy:

I don't think Daehli is a type of player that fits into Slades philosophy. 4 4 2 is not for Daehli.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:33 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


You have taken a bit of a hammering here Wez. :crazy:

I don't think Daehli is a type of player that fits into Slades philosophy. 4 4 2 is not for Daehli.

The fact is he's been Shit this year and doesn't fit in as you stated and if it's true he has an on going injury problem with his hips then slade is right not to play him

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:34 pm

Stringfellow wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board



He's been played out of position in an unorganised team playing poor. Anyone with a football brain can see he's class.
what is his Correct position then ?


Most believe just behind the striker, he can play centre with support and while I don't think hrs set the world alight out wide I do think he can play in this position as he does for Norway, but we need to be pressing and higher up the pitch like we do at home.


we have 2 strikers so not sure if that suits city's 442 as we dont have the players to allow him that roll because whitts is better further upfield!! unless of course we drop whitts?? :thumbup:

the love in is because its a good platform to bash slade with, and infer tan is responsible for slade not picking him!! :o

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:40 pm

Always puts a shift in, check.
Brave and always wants to get on the ball, check.
Can see a pass, check.
Can play the passes he sees in front of him, check.
Looks after the ball and uses it well, check.
Low centre of gravity, can twist and turn to get away from a man, check.
Commits defenders, opening up space for players, check.
Can go pass players, check.
Very quick feet, check.

He's got loads and loads of ability and potential, I could go on and on, only problem is at his age he's going to be inconsistent on times, this league is a brand new experience for him and it's obviously going to take some getting use to. Some people have short memories, this kid caused problems for defenders in the Premier League and has done it on the international stage, give him a shot and have a bit of patience and he could rip this league to bits. I'm not sure if 4-4-2 quite suits him and I'm not suggesting to change the whole ethos just to fit Mats in but we need to get the best out of the likes of Mats and Morrison because in my opinion they are top talents.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:42 pm

Classic cardiff fan if they're not 10/10 theyre whit.

God forbid we try to develop players.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:44 pm

wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Probably because he's the most technically gifted player to have been at the club in recent years... He runs the show for his country when he's played just behind the strikers in a free role. He's no winger. But I forgot, the club can't do no wrong to you, can it.

If we gave him free role we would be battered on the pitch he just doesn't fit in to our system ,this season he has looked very lightweight


He's definitely lightweight but so is someone like Jonny Williams, if used properly they can be more than effective, look at the problems he caused us. If Daehli could drop in between the lines and get on the ball I have every confidence he'd rip it up. Thing is as Slade has said previously Morrison also plays in that sort of position and to be fair he's looked different class when he's got going.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:46 pm

wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Probably because he's the most technically gifted player to have been at the club in recent years... He runs the show for his country when he's played just behind the strikers in a free role. He's no winger. But I forgot, the club can't do no wrong to you, can it.

If we gave him free role we would be battered on the pitch he just doesn't fit in to our system ,this season he has looked very lightweight


Then you have to ask the question, why pick a manager that does not know how to use the quality player he has at his disposal. We are wasting so much talent.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:48 pm

seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Probably because he's the most technically gifted player to have been at the club in recent years... He runs the show for his country when he's played just behind the strikers in a free role. He's no winger. But I forgot, the club can't do no wrong to you, can it.

If we gave him free role we would be battered on the pitch he just doesn't fit in to our system ,this season he has looked very lightweight


Then you have to ask the question, why pick a manager that does not know how to use the quality player he has at his disposal. We are wasting so much talent.

It's one player do you think he's good enough to build a team around ? I don't ,ravel is miles better than mats

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:04 pm

wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Probably because he's the most technically gifted player to have been at the club in recent years... He runs the show for his country when he's played just behind the strikers in a free role. He's no winger. But I forgot, the club can't do no wrong to you, can it.

If we gave him free role we would be battered on the pitch he just doesn't fit in to our system ,this season he has looked very lightweight


Then you have to ask the question, why pick a manager that does not know how to use the quality player he has at his disposal. We are wasting so much talent.

It's one player do you think he's good enough to build a team around ? I don't ,ravel is miles better than mats


Yes Ravel is a better player at the moment but he's off in a few weeks.
And yes he is good enough to build a team around.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:41 pm

GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:Always puts a shift in, check.
Brave and always wants to get on the ball, check.
Can see a pass, check.
Can play the passes he sees in front of him, check.
Looks after the ball and uses it well, check.
Low centre of gravity, can twist and turn to get away from a man, check.
Commits defenders, opening up space for players, check.
Can go pass players, check.
Very quick feet, check.

He's got loads and loads of ability and potential, I could go on and on, only problem is at his age he's going to be inconsistent on times, this league is a brand new experience for him and it's obviously going to take some getting use to. Some people have short memories, this kid caused problems for defenders in the Premier League and has done it on the international stage, give him a shot and have a bit of patience and he could rip this league to bits. I'm not sure if 4-4-2 quite suits him and I'm not suggesting to change the whole ethos just to fit Mats in but we need to get the best out of the likes of Mats and Morrison because in my opinion they are top talents.


Bang on the money that post, saved me typing and Couldn't agree more.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:41 pm

wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Probably because he's the most technically gifted player to have been at the club in recent years... He runs the show for his country when he's played just behind the strikers in a free role. He's no winger. But I forgot, the club can't do no wrong to you, can it.

If we gave him free role we would be battered on the pitch he just doesn't fit in to our system ,this season he has looked very lightweight


Then you have to ask the question, why pick a manager that does not know how to use the quality player he has at his disposal. We are wasting so much talent.

It's one player do you think he's good enough to build a team around ? I don't ,ravel is miles better than mats


Ravel doesn't even start. Daehli, Ravel, Guerra have been such a waste of talent. Can't see Harris coming through with Slade in charge either.

Re: why is there a love in for matts on here ?

Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:45 pm

seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
seanmogs wrote:
wez1927 wrote:This season he had been lightweight and not suited to the championship at all ,I don't understand the love for him on this board


Probably because he's the most technically gifted player to have been at the club in recent years... He runs the show for his country when he's played just behind the strikers in a free role. He's no winger. But I forgot, the club can't do no wrong to you, can it.

If we gave him free role we would be battered on the pitch he just doesn't fit in to our system ,this season he has looked very lightweight


Then you have to ask the question, why pick a manager that does not know how to use the quality player he has at his disposal. We are wasting so much talent.

It's one player do you think he's good enough to build a team around ? I don't ,ravel is miles better than mats


Ravel doesn't even start. Daehli, Ravel, Guerra have been such a waste of talent. Can't see Harris coming through with Slade in charge either.

ravel has been coming back from injury