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"Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:06 pm

According to Dagbladet (http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/11/05/spor ... /36093327/), Steve Tucker has told NTB (norsk telegrambyrå) that Dæhli is likely to leave in January. Apparently, there have been approaches on him from two unnamed teams.

In the same article, it´s suggested that the disagreement between Solskjær and Tan about compensation might end up in court. Solskjær wants compensation for lost payment this year out, but Tan seems unwilling to meet his demand.

Re: Steve Tucker: "Dæhli is leaving in January"

Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:13 pm

But Ole is welcome back anytime.

I doubt very much Ole will take up the invitation.

Re: Steve Tucker: "Dæhli is leaving in January"

Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:51 am

Wasn't it ole who quit ? In any other job if you quit you get get f**k all seems football has a different set of rules

Re: Steve Tucker: "Dæhli is leaving in January"

Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:06 am

wez1927 wrote:Wasn't it ole who quit ? In any other job if you quit you get get f**k all seems football has a different set of rules


This point seems a bit unclear. Officially, Solskjær quit, but there could be an argument on which conditions he quit. Did he quit because Tan changed the conditions on which he was employed in the first place? If the contract agreement between Ole and the club was broken (by Tan), Ole could have a case. For a start, Ole was promised full control on which players to be part of the squad on match day?

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:10 am

DVE, As you know I don't trust Tan or like him one bit,I did not rate Ole as a manager,but he for me Ole is a very honest,genuine person from my meetings with him.

It's funny how when it's to do with Tan,nothing is straight forward and everyone else is in the wrong but Tan, once again the Tan Circus will be in full motion :roll:

Re: Steve Tucker: "Dæhli is leaving in January"

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:12 am

wez1927 wrote:Wasn't it ole who quit ? In any other job if you quit you get get f**k all seems football has a different set of rules


But it's never as simple as that with football contracts & you don't really know the circumstance do you?

With regards to Daehli, I think it would be an absolute travesty to sell this young talent.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:31 am

Is this why Daehli is frozen out? Tan won't let him?

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:59 am

As far as I can see, Daehli isn't playing simply based on form (or the lack of it).

Name a game since he came here that he has dominated ? He's had good games but nothing to back up the hype that some people write on here.

He is clearly very skillful but can he put that into practise consistently ? He never looks like scoring (even his goal at WBA was a massive deflection) and I really can't see how he could make a difference in the current first XI.

I certainly don't think he's the obvious answer others believe but in fairness, at some point he needs to play in the No: 10 role just behind Jones or Macheda to test him and assess whether he does have what it takes. He is certainly not a winger or CM player at this level.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:01 am

Just proves slade is tan yes man. Who wouldnt pick Dæhli???? Tan must not rate him.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:09 am

piledriver64 wrote:As far as I can see, Daehli isn't playing simply based on form (or the lack of it).

Name a game since he came here that he has dominated ? He's had good games but nothing to back up the hype that some people write on here.

He is clearly very skillful but can he put that into practise consistently ? He never looks like scoring (even his goal at WBA was a massive deflection) and I really can't see how he could make a difference in the current first XI.

I certainly don't think he's the obvious answer others believe but in fairness, at some point he needs to play in the No: 10 role just behind Jones or Macheda to test him and assess whether he does have what it takes. He is certainly not a winger or CM player at this level.

There are more numbers to the equation. Name a game Pilkington or Noone dominated and what would warrant to put Gabbidion ahead of him on the bench?

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:13 am

Forever Blue wrote:DVE, As you know I don't trust Tan or like him one bit,I did not rate Ole as a manager,but he for me Ole is a very honest,genuine person from my meetings with him.

It's funny how when it's to do with Tan,nothing is straight forward and everyone else is in the wrong but Tan, once again the Tan Circus will be in full motion :roll:


Yes, it will be interesting to hear what Ole has to say about everything when a final agreement is made and he is able to speak out. So far he has been silent as a grave.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:14 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:As far as I can see, Daehli isn't playing simply based on form (or the lack of it).

Name a game since he came here that he has dominated ? He's had good games but nothing to back up the hype that some people write on here.

He is clearly very skillful but can he put that into practise consistently ? He never looks like scoring (even his goal at WBA was a massive deflection) and I really can't see how he could make a difference in the current first XI.

I certainly don't think he's the obvious answer others believe but in fairness, at some point he needs to play in the No: 10 role just behind Jones or Macheda to test him and assess whether he does have what it takes. He is certainly not a winger or CM player at this level.

There are more numbers to the equation. Name a game Pilkington or Noone dominated and what would warrant to put Gabbidion ahead of him on the bench?


Fair point but for me both Noone and Pilko have done more than Robin has.

I too don't see what the fuss is - potential not realised, too easily knocked off the ball last season, even harder this season in the Championship.

Would love him to succeed but I don't see it from what I've seen of him.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:06 am

JimmyJazz wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:As far as I can see, Daehli isn't playing simply based on form (or the lack of it).

Name a game since he came here that he has dominated ? He's had good games but nothing to back up the hype that some people write on here.

He is clearly very skillful but can he put that into practise consistently ? He never looks like scoring (even his goal at WBA was a massive deflection) and I really can't see how he could make a difference in the current first XI.

I certainly don't think he's the obvious answer others believe but in fairness, at some point he needs to play in the No: 10 role just behind Jones or Macheda to test him and assess whether he does have what it takes. He is certainly not a winger or CM player at this level.

There are more numbers to the equation. Name a game Pilkington or Noone dominated and what would warrant to put Gabbidion ahead of him on the bench?


Fair point but for me both Noone and Pilko have done more than Robin has.

I too don't see what the fuss is - potential not realised, too easily knocked off the ball last season, even harder this season in the Championship.

Would love him to succeed but I don't see it from what I've seen of him.


I agree with both responses.

Neither Noone or Pilkington have dominated games either but even when that is the case they do provide some defensive cover and tactical awareness that at least makes us more robust.

I'm not saying Daehli won't be a good player, what I am saying is that I'm not convinced he would improve the current first XI on what we've seen and actually I would have Morrison in ahead of him even if RS was to make changes.

I genuinely want Daehli to succeed but let's not kid ourselves, he's not shown enough yet to convince me that this is the right time/season/club/formation for him. I hope I'm wrong !!

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:09 am

JimmyJazz wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:As far as I can see, Daehli isn't playing simply based on form (or the lack of it).

Name a game since he came here that he has dominated ? He's had good games but nothing to back up the hype that some people write on here.

He is clearly very skillful but can he put that into practise consistently ? He never looks like scoring (even his goal at WBA was a massive deflection) and I really can't see how he could make a difference in the current first XI.

I certainly don't think he's the obvious answer others believe but in fairness, at some point he needs to play in the No: 10 role just behind Jones or Macheda to test him and assess whether he does have what it takes. He is certainly not a winger or CM player at this level.

There are more numbers to the equation. Name a game Pilkington or Noone dominated and what would warrant to put Gabbidion ahead of him on the bench?


Fair point but for me both Noone and Pilko have done more than Robin has.

I too don't see what the fuss is - potential not realised, too easily knocked off the ball last season, even harder this season in the Championship.

Would love him to succeed but I don't see it from what I've seen of him.


He has just recently made it through puberty. Has allready made an ok impression in the premier league, plays regular international games and has attracted bigger clubs interest at some level.

One would think this is a guy a club will appreciate and take care of, both from a business and footballing point of view, as he could potentially contribute with some great football and eventually a load of money at some point in the future.

If hes good enough to start matches right now, i wouldnt know, and should be up to the people who see him on the training ground every day. But i defo wouldnt risk leaving him feeling unwanted and left out, considering what he could be worth one day.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:21 pm

Blueish wrote:
JimmyJazz wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:As far as I can see, Daehli isn't playing simply based on form (or the lack of it).

Name a game since he came here that he has dominated ? He's had good games but nothing to back up the hype that some people write on here.

He is clearly very skillful but can he put that into practise consistently ? He never looks like scoring (even his goal at WBA was a massive deflection) and I really can't see how he could make a difference in the current first XI.

I certainly don't think he's the obvious answer others believe but in fairness, at some point he needs to play in the No: 10 role just behind Jones or Macheda to test him and assess whether he does have what it takes. He is certainly not a winger or CM player at this level.

There are more numbers to the equation. Name a game Pilkington or Noone dominated and what would warrant to put Gabbidion ahead of him on the bench?



This is madness, getting rid of our only player with star quality; likely cheaply. Typical Cardiff City, lets bring in a bunch of journeymen instead to add to what we already got FFS!
Fair point but for me both Noone and Pilko have done more than Robin has.

I too don't see what the fuss is - potential not realised, too easily knocked off the ball last season, even harder this season in the Championship.

Would love him to succeed but I don't see it from what I've seen of him.


He has just recently made it through puberty. Has allready made an ok impression in the premier league, plays regular international games and has attracted bigger clubs interest at some level.

One would think this is a guy a club will appreciate and take care of, both from a business and footballing point of view, as he could potentially contribute with some great football and eventually a load of money at some point in the future.

If hes good enough to start matches right now, i wouldnt know, and should be up to the people who see him on the training ground every day. But i defo wouldnt risk leaving him feeling unwanted and left out, considering what he could be worth one day.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:22 pm

Blueish wrote:
JimmyJazz wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:As far as I can see, Daehli isn't playing simply based on form (or the lack of it).

Name a game since he came here that he has dominated ? He's had good games but nothing to back up the hype that some people write on here.

He is clearly very skillful but can he put that into practise consistently ? He never looks like scoring (even his goal at WBA was a massive deflection) and I really can't see how he could make a difference in the current first XI.

I certainly don't think he's the obvious answer others believe but in fairness, at some point he needs to play in the No: 10 role just behind Jones or Macheda to test him and assess whether he does have what it takes. He is certainly not a winger or CM player at this level.

There are more numbers to the equation. Name a game Pilkington or Noone dominated and what would warrant to put Gabbidion ahead of him on the bench?



This is madness, getting rid of our only player with star quality; likely cheaply. Typical Cardiff City, lets bring in a bunch of journeymen instead to add to what we already got FFS!
Fair point but for me both Noone and Pilko have done more than Robin has.

I too don't see what the fuss is - potential not realised, too easily knocked off the ball last season, even harder this season in the Championship.

Would love him to succeed but I don't see it from what I've seen of him.


He has just recently made it through puberty. Has allready made an ok impression in the premier league, plays regular international games and has attracted bigger clubs interest at some level.

One would think this is a guy a club will appreciate and take care of, both from a business and footballing point of view, as he could potentially contribute with some great football and eventually a load of money at some point in the future.

If hes good enough to start matches right now, i wouldnt know, and should be up to the people who see him on the training ground every day. But i defo wouldnt risk leaving him feeling unwanted and left out, considering what he could be worth one day.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:27 pm

As far as I am concerned Daehli should be going no where and should be playing v Brum on Saturday :ayatollah:

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:33 pm

Forever Blue wrote:As far as I am concerned Daehli should be going no where and should be playing v Brum on Saturday :ayatollah:



Annis think he needs a complete rethink on away strategy! More creativity with some steel? Is that possible with our squad? :old:

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:42 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:As far as I am concerned Daehli should be going no where and should be playing v Brum on Saturday :ayatollah:



Annis think he needs a complete rethink on away strategy! More creativity with some steel? Is that possible with our squad? :old:


Adeyemi and Dikgacoi were supposed to be that steel, but stainless, they were not. Now there is only Gunnars to rely on. Maybe a straight 4-5-1 could be the answer? Something like Noone, Whittingham, Gunnarsson, Ravel, Pilkington (or Dæhli for one of them), and put midfielders on the bench, not only defenders. Let the ones on the pitch run until death and put in fresh legs for whoever dies first.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:53 pm

Absolutely ridiculous. Only a club like Cardiff would let a player like Mats Daehli leave. He has unbelievable talent and is going to become a star.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:55 pm

Dve wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:DVE, As you know I don't trust Tan or like him one bit,I did not rate Ole as a manager,but he for me Ole is a very honest,genuine person from my meetings with him.

It's funny how when it's to do with Tan,nothing is straight forward and everyone else is in the wrong but Tan, once again the Tan Circus will be in full motion :roll:


Yes, it will be interesting to hear what Ole has to say about everything when a final agreement is made and he is able to speak out. So far he has been silent as a grave.


Yes it will, I dont think Ole will have ever texted/emailed like Malky :lol: Ole for me was a good guy all the way :thumbright:

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:56 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:As far as I am concerned Daehli should be going no where and should be playing v Brum on Saturday :ayatollah:



Annis think he needs a complete rethink on away strategy! More creativity with some steel? Is that possible with our squad? :old:


Allan, There is a lot of quality players in our squad to put a very good team together. :thumbright:
We need a Leader/Captain first and not Marshall.

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:As far as I am concerned Daehli should be going no where and should be playing v Brum on Saturday :ayatollah:



Annis think he needs a complete rethink on away strategy! More creativity with some steel? Is that possible with our squad? :old:


Allan, There is a lot of quality players in our squad to put a very good team together. :thumbright:
We need a Leader/Captain first and not Marshall.


Is hudson that man ? Let's just hope he's learned a valuable lesson on Tues! :bluescarf:

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:14 am

Dve wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:As far as I am concerned Daehli should be going no where and should be playing v Brum on Saturday :ayatollah:



Annis think he needs a complete rethink on away strategy! More creativity with some steel? Is that possible with our squad? :old:


Adeyemi and Dikgacoi were supposed to be that steel, but stainless, they were not. Now there is only Gunnars to rely on. Maybe a straight 4-5-1 could be the answer? Something like Noone, Whittingham, Gunnarsson, Ravel, Pilkington (or Dæhli for one of them), and put midfielders on the bench, not only defenders. Let the ones on the pitch run until death and put in fresh legs for whoever dies first.


Good post.
Love your expression - 'run until death and put fresh legs on for whoever dies first' mate!!

Re: "Dæhli is leaving in January" Ole set to go to Court ?

Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:07 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Dve wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:As far as I am concerned Daehli should be going no where and should be playing v Brum on Saturday :ayatollah:



Annis think he needs a complete rethink on away strategy! More creativity with some steel? Is that possible with our squad? :old:


Adeyemi and Dikgacoi were supposed to be that steel, but stainless, they were not. Now there is only Gunnars to rely on. Maybe a straight 4-5-1 could be the answer? Something like Noone, Whittingham, Gunnarsson, Ravel, Pilkington (or Dæhli for one of them), and put midfielders on the bench, not only defenders. Let the ones on the pitch run until death and put in fresh legs for whoever dies first.


Good post.
Love your expression - 'run until death and put fresh legs on for whoever dies first' mate!!


Yupp :) With Adeyemi on the bench, Gunnarsson should be running as if he was going to play only for 60 minutes, then be replaced with fresh legs. If he´s not dead after 60 minutes, Slade should shoot him himself. If there is no tactical changes being made, the central midfield should run themselves empty, and that´s what Slade should focus on when composing the bench.