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Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:08 pm

Monday 3rd Nov 2014

Cardiff sue agent over information he provided about ex-manager Malky Mackay

Cardiff are in the High Court to sue agent Paul Atkin

The club claims he offered information about ex-boss Malky Mackay
But the information is alleged to have been of questionable accuracy


Cardiff City have started High Court proceedings to reclaim more than £50,000 they paid to football agent Paul Atkin for information he provided about discredited former manager Malky Mackay.

It’s claimed Atkin, of Pro Star Management, made an approach to Cardiff under the pseudonym Jack Anonymous offering to help the club defend Mackay’s £7million employment claim with ‘two significant pieces of information’ regarding his alleged ‘serious misconduct’.

Mackay later settled with the club before Sportsmail revealed the series of racist, homophobic and sexist texts he had exchanged with director of football Iain Moody. Neither has yet found another job in football.

Cardiff paid Atkin, via his solicitor, £51,500 for the information he had been touting. But on receiving it, they found it ran to less than one typed page and was either of questionable accuracy or relevance.

The first item was that Norwich majority shareholder Delia Smith had allegedly approached Mackay about managing the Canaries and the second was that Atkin’s own agency had a scouting agreement with Mackay through his agent Raymond Sparkes, who also works for Pro Star Management.

The Welsh club, whose owner Vincent Tan has spent £750,000 investigating eight transfers during Mackay’s tenure, are seeking the return of their money plus legal costs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... paign=1490

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:14 pm

When Tan spoke about legal action against agents (repeated in the Jim White interviews for Sky) it was in relation to fees and 'overpayments' for players - implying fraud.

This seems to be something very different.

However, if true it may be the opening shot by the club against agents they regard as dishonest, with more to follow?

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:32 pm

NIGELNIGLE wrote:Cardiff sue agent over information he provided about ex-manager Malky Mackay
Cardiff are in the High Court to sue agent Paul Atkin
The club claims he offered information about ex-boss Malky Mackay
But the information is alleged to have been of questionable accuracy


Cardiff City have started High Court proceedings to reclaim more than £50,000 they paid to football agent Paul Atkin for information he provided about discredited former manager Malky Mackay.

It’s claimed Atkin, of Pro Star Management, made an approach to Cardiff under the pseudonym Jack Anonymous offering to help the club defend Mackay’s £7million employment claim with ‘two significant pieces of information’ regarding his alleged ‘serious misconduct’.

Mackay later settled with the club before Sportsmail revealed the series of racist, homophobic and sexist texts he had exchanged with director of football Iain Moody. Neither has yet found another job in football.

Cardiff paid Atkin, via his solicitor, £51,500 for the information he had been touting. But on receiving it, they found it ran to less than one typed page and was either of questionable accuracy or relevance.

The first item was that Norwich majority shareholder Delia Smith had allegedly approached Mackay about managing the Canaries and the second was that Atkin’s own agency had a scouting agreement with Mackay through his agent Raymond Sparkes, who also works for Pro Star Management.

The Welsh club, whose owner Vincent Tan has spent £750,000 investigating eight transfers during Mackay’s tenure, are seeking the return of their money plus legal costs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... paign=1490


haha bad luck Tan :) what else you paid up for? Info on the rumour Malky gave his classmate a wedgie in 1985?

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:16 am

The first item was that Norwich majority shareholder Delia Smith had allegedly approached Mackay about managing the Canaries

"Let's be having you" ;)

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:47 am

ThomasC wrote:
NIGELNIGLE wrote:Cardiff sue agent over information he provided about ex-manager Malky Mackay
Cardiff are in the High Court to sue agent Paul Atkin
The club claims he offered information about ex-boss Malky Mackay
But the information is alleged to have been of questionable accuracy


Cardiff City have started High Court proceedings to reclaim more than £50,000 they paid to football agent Paul Atkin for information he provided about discredited former manager Malky Mackay.

It’s claimed Atkin, of Pro Star Management, made an approach to Cardiff under the pseudonym Jack Anonymous offering to help the club defend Mackay’s £7million employment claim with ‘two significant pieces of information’ regarding his alleged ‘serious misconduct’.

Mackay later settled with the club before Sportsmail revealed the series of racist, homophobic and sexist texts he had exchanged with director of football Iain Moody. Neither has yet found another job in football.

Cardiff paid Atkin, via his solicitor, £51,500 for the information he had been touting. But on receiving it, they found it ran to less than one typed page and was either of questionable accuracy or relevance.

The first item was that Norwich majority shareholder Delia Smith had allegedly approached Mackay about managing the Canaries and the second was that Atkin’s own agency had a scouting agreement with Mackay through his agent Raymond Sparkes, who also works for Pro Star Management.

The Welsh club, whose owner Vincent Tan has spent £750,000 investigating eight transfers during Mackay’s tenure, are seeking the return of their money plus legal costs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... paign=1490


haha bad luck Tan :) what else you paid up for? Info on the rumour Malky gave his classmate a wedgie in 1985?





ThomasC, if someone had besmirched you in the way Malky did to Tan, would you not go all out to clear your own side of things if all around you wrongly thought you were the the instigating party when someone else (in this case a very media manipulative Malky) was actually the aggressor? :?

I know I would! :thumbup:

It appears to me that the Agent has tried to exploit a situation in a way only an Agent can...with money on his mind!

I bet he (the Agent) will be smarting right now regardless of the Court outcome, as no matter what the outcome the professional football community will know he cannot be trusted!

I reckon Tan would reckon that as "job done!" more than the actual financial element itself! ;) :thumbup:

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:44 am

Sven wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
NIGELNIGLE wrote:Cardiff sue agent over information he provided about ex-manager Malky Mackay
Cardiff are in the High Court to sue agent Paul Atkin
The club claims he offered information about ex-boss Malky Mackay
But the information is alleged to have been of questionable accuracy


Cardiff City have started High Court proceedings to reclaim more than £50,000 they paid to football agent Paul Atkin for information he provided about discredited former manager Malky Mackay.

It’s claimed Atkin, of Pro Star Management, made an approach to Cardiff under the pseudonym Jack Anonymous offering to help the club defend Mackay’s £7million employment claim with ‘two significant pieces of information’ regarding his alleged ‘serious misconduct’.

Mackay later settled with the club before Sportsmail revealed the series of racist, homophobic and sexist texts he had exchanged with director of football Iain Moody. Neither has yet found another job in football.

Cardiff paid Atkin, via his solicitor, £51,500 for the information he had been touting. But on receiving it, they found it ran to less than one typed page and was either of questionable accuracy or relevance.

The first item was that Norwich majority shareholder Delia Smith had allegedly approached Mackay about managing the Canaries and the second was that Atkin’s own agency had a scouting agreement with Mackay through his agent Raymond Sparkes, who also works for Pro Star Management.

The Welsh club, whose owner Vincent Tan has spent £750,000 investigating eight transfers during Mackay’s tenure, are seeking the return of their money plus legal costs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... paign=1490


haha bad luck Tan :) what else you paid up for? Info on the rumour Malky gave his classmate a wedgie in 1985?





ThomasC, if someone had besmirched you in the way Malky did to Tan, would you not go all out to clear your own side of things if all around you wrongly thought you were the the instigating party when someone else (in this case a very media manipulative Malky) was actually the aggressor? :?

I know I would! :thumbup:

It appears to me that the Agent has tried to exploit a situation in a way only an Agent can...with money on his mind!

I bet he (the Agent) will be smarting right now regardless of the Court outcome, as no matter what the outcome the professional football community will know he cannot be trusted!

I reckon Tan would reckon that as "job done!" more than the actual financial element itself! ;) :thumbup:



You are right, just bringing this to everyone's attention will be enough, plus I will cost him a fortune in legal fees, ask Malky and a Moody, Tan is not to be messed with.......

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:27 am

As I mentioned in an earlier post FIFA are changing the rules re Football Agents. You only have to go on the FA website to see that, as of next year, all licences are being revoked and new criteria are being brought in.

This would suggest to me that FIFA (or the FA) are looking very closely at what agents they allow into football and that the old days of qualifying by sitting an exam is no longer acceptable.

Personally I think this is a good move by FIFA. A little bit of regulation and clarity doesnt hurt anyone.

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:29 am

Paul Keevil wrote:As I mentioned in an earlier post FIFA are changing the rules re Football Agents. You only have to go on the FA website to see that, as of next year, all licences are being revoked and new criteria are being brought in.

This would suggest to me that FIFA (or the FA) are looking very closely at what agents they allow into football and that the old days of qualifying by sitting an exam is no longer acceptable.

Personally I think this is a good move by FIFA. A little bit of regulation and clarity doesnt hurt anyone.




Totally agree, Paul :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:42 am

I wonder how many other agents have capitalised on Tan's desperation to find some evidence on Malky by any cost?

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:07 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I wonder how many other agents have capitalised on Tan's desperation to find some evidence on Malky by any cost?





Ross, that is a pertinent question :thumbup:

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:02 am

jon1959 wrote:When Tan spoke about legal action against agents (repeated in the Jim White interviews for Sky) it was in relation to fees and 'overpayments' for players - implying fraud.

This seems to be something very different.

However, if true it may be the opening shot by the club against agents they regard as dishonest, with more to follow?


Exactly and I said all along that the fraudulent claims by the club were bollox and would never stand up in court. Looks to me that the club have now been told that the information is rubbish and are once again trying to blame someone else.

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:16 am

Military Junta wrote:
jon1959 wrote:When Tan spoke about legal action against agents (repeated in the Jim White interviews for Sky) it was in relation to fees and 'overpayments' for players - implying fraud.

This seems to be something very different.

However, if true it may be the opening shot by the club against agents they regard as dishonest, with more to follow?


Exactly and I said all along that the fraudulent claims by the club were bollox and would never stand up in court. Looks to me that the club have now been told that the information is rubbish and are once again trying to blame someone else.


This is the first of a few claims though.

This claim goes to show how far Tan is willing to go to bring down Malky. Tan has the money to do it. I'm not sure Tan will get his money back but he will be content in the fact this agent will not be trusted again. That is Tans tact. I wonder if he will use the same tact on other people.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:39 am

No wonder the clubs debt is increasing (along with the laughing stock/desperation) status.

This will be Cardiff City's debt not Tans.
What a waste of money to try to cover up what a complete mess Tan has made of managing the club.

What kind of **** pays £50,000 to get some gossip on someone?
It is Tan who looks the imbecile in all this.

All the fraud and corruption claims thrown at Malky are unravelling, and Tan is now desperate to blame someone else, so he goes after the agents who realised what a mug he is and fleeced him (allegedly) of money for rumours. ha ha.

Good businessman ? What a joke, he is just a bully and gets away with it in the places he come from. But in a Western, modern world he has to back up the claims and he is getting increasingly desperate to try to regain some credibility.

Soon he will have to pull those trousers up even higher, to cover his face, it will be so embarrassingly bright red (to match the disgusting shirt). :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:40 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
jon1959 wrote:When Tan spoke about legal action against agents (repeated in the Jim White interviews for Sky) it was in relation to fees and 'overpayments' for players - implying fraud.

This seems to be something very different.

However, if true it may be the opening shot by the club against agents they regard as dishonest, with more to follow?


Exactly and I said all along that the fraudulent claims by the club were bollox and would never stand up in court. Looks to me that the club have now been told that the information is rubbish and are once again trying to blame someone else.


This is the first of a few claims though.

This claim goes to show how far Tan is willing to go to bring down Malky. Tan has the money to do it. I'm not sure Tan will get his money back but he will be content in the fact this agent will not be trusted again. That is Tans tact. I wonder if he will use the same tact on other people.


So the first of the claims turn out to be false and I wonder how many others would.

Personally I think to this was the Malaysian legal system then Tan would have had won anything but over here he needs to come up with proper substance to get a conviction.

Could this now open the door to slander claims against Tan..?

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:53 am

abergblue wrote:No wonder the clubs debt is increasing (along with the laughing stock/desperation) status.

This will be Cardiff City's debt not Tans.
What a waste of money to try to cover up what a complete mess Tan has made of managing the club.

What kind of **** pays £50,000 to get some gossip on someone?
It is Tan who looks the imbecile in all this.

All the fraud and corruption claims thrown at Malky are unravelling, and Tan is now desperate to blame someone else, so he goes after the agents who realised what a mug he is and fleeced him (allegedly) of money for rumours. ha ha.

Good businessman ? What a joke, he is just a bully and gets away with it in the places he come from. But in a Western, modern world he has to back up the claims and he is getting increasingly desperate to try to regain some credibility.

Soon he will have to pull those trousers up even higher, to cover his face, it will be so embarrassingly bright red (to match the disgusting shirt). :laughing6: :laughing6:



The club debt at record levels, it's great to know 'Jack Anonymous' can get a £50,000 pay-out for the promise of more dirt on Malky :?

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:02 pm

ThomasC wrote:
abergblue wrote:No wonder the clubs debt is increasing (along with the laughing stock/desperation) status.

This will be Cardiff City's debt not Tans.
What a waste of money to try to cover up what a complete mess Tan has made of managing the club.

What kind of **** pays £50,000 to get some gossip on someone?
It is Tan who looks the imbecile in all this.

All the fraud and corruption claims thrown at Malky are unravelling, and Tan is now desperate to blame someone else, so he goes after the agents who realised what a mug he is and fleeced him (allegedly) of money for rumours. ha ha.

Good businessman ? What a joke, he is just a bully and gets away with it in the places he come from. But in a Western, modern world he has to back up the claims and he is getting increasingly desperate to try to regain some credibility.

Soon he will have to pull those trousers up even higher, to cover his face, it will be so embarrassingly bright red (to match the disgusting shirt). :laughing6: :laughing6:



The club debt at record levels, it's great to know 'Jack Anonymous' can get a £50,000 pay-out for the promise of more dirt on Malky :?


You should be celebrating the fact that our owner seems to be the only one within the game has the balls to expose the grimy little underbelly of football agents and others involved in the game, instead of making cheap jibes about the club wasting money. The cost of this case is irrelevant, if it gets rid on one unscrupulous agent, then it's money well spent :thumbup:

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:14 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
abergblue wrote:No wonder the clubs debt is increasing (along with the laughing stock/desperation) status.

This will be Cardiff City's debt not Tans.
What a waste of money to try to cover up what a complete mess Tan has made of managing the club.

What kind of **** pays £50,000 to get some gossip on someone?
It is Tan who looks the imbecile in all this.

All the fraud and corruption claims thrown at Malky are unravelling, and Tan is now desperate to blame someone else, so he goes after the agents who realised what a mug he is and fleeced him (allegedly) of money for rumours. ha ha.

Good businessman ? What a joke, he is just a bully and gets away with it in the places he come from. But in a Western, modern world he has to back up the claims and he is getting increasingly desperate to try to regain some credibility.

Soon he will have to pull those trousers up even higher, to cover his face, it will be so embarrassingly bright red (to match the disgusting shirt). :laughing6: :laughing6:



The club debt at record levels, it's great to know 'Jack Anonymous' can get a £50,000 pay-out for the promise of more dirt on Malky :?


You should be celebrating the fact that our owner seems to be the only one within the game has the balls to expose the grimy little underbelly of football agents and others involved in the game, instead of making cheap jibes about the club wasting money. The cost of this case is irrelevant, if it gets rid on one unscrupulous agent, then it's money well spent :thumbup:


Celebrating the fact our owner is more concerned over surveillance, private investigations, law-suits & vendettas rather than structuring the club so that the club finances are audited and monitored properly? No thanks, nothing to celebrate here in my opinion.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:20 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
abergblue wrote:No wonder the clubs debt is increasing (along with the laughing stock/desperation) status.

This will be Cardiff City's debt not Tans.
What a waste of money to try to cover up what a complete mess Tan has made of managing the club.

What kind of **** pays £50,000 to get some gossip on someone?
It is Tan who looks the imbecile in all this.

All the fraud and corruption claims thrown at Malky are unravelling, and Tan is now desperate to blame someone else, so he goes after the agents who realised what a mug he is and fleeced him (allegedly) of money for rumours. ha ha.

Good businessman ? What a joke, he is just a bully and gets away with it in the places he come from. But in a Western, modern world he has to back up the claims and he is getting increasingly desperate to try to regain some credibility.

Soon he will have to pull those trousers up even higher, to cover his face, it will be so embarrassingly bright red (to match the disgusting shirt). :laughing6: :laughing6:



The club debt at record levels, it's great to know 'Jack Anonymous' can get a £50,000 pay-out for the promise of more dirt on Malky :?


You should be celebrating the fact that our owner seems to be the only one within the game has the balls to expose the grimy little underbelly of football agents and others involved in the game, instead of making cheap jibes about the club wasting money. The cost of this case is irrelevant, if it gets rid on one unscrupulous agent, then it's money well spent :thumbup:



Agree about the slime bag agents in football, they should be got rid of, but they won't be. Just like the people running football, especially FIFA.
But to try to pretend that this is a moral crusade by Tan to clean up football is hilarious and naive.
Tan could not care less about morales and peoples feelings (ask any Cardiff City fans you may know, about it).
Tan only cares about "losing face" and being adored, like the dictator he is. Because Malky and others stood up to him and would not bow and scrape in public, he is doing all he can to destroy them.
In the meantime he is making himself look the **** he really is, but dragging Cardiff Citry through the mud as well.

I think (may be wrong) that Luton Town tried to expose agents, corruption etc in football some years ago, and they ended uo in the Conference, as the authorities docked them lots of points until they were relegated.
As Tan authorised/signed the cheques for payments made by the club then the club could also be held responsible and action taken against the club.
So Tans pretend and false moral campaign will put this club out of business. In League 2 owing £millions ??

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Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:32 pm

ThomasC wrote:
abergblue wrote:No wonder the clubs debt is increasing (along with the laughing stock/desperation) status.

This will be Cardiff City's debt not Tans.
What a waste of money to try to cover up what a complete mess Tan has made of managing the club.

What kind of **** pays £50,000 to get some gossip on someone?
It is Tan who looks the imbecile in all this.

All the fraud and corruption claims thrown at Malky are unravelling, and Tan is now desperate to blame someone else, so he goes after the agents who realised what a mug he is and fleeced him (allegedly) of money for rumours. ha ha.

Good businessman ? What a joke, he is just a bully and gets away with it in the places he come from. But in a Western, modern world he has to back up the claims and he is getting increasingly desperate to try to regain some credibility.

Soon he will have to pull those trousers up even higher, to cover his face, it will be so embarrassingly bright red (to match the disgusting shirt). :laughing6: :laughing6:



The club debt at record levels, it's great to know 'Jack Anonymous' can get a £50,000 pay-out for the promise of more dirt on Malky :?


come to think of it, the agent approached the club with anonymity under the pseudonym. 'Jack Anonymous' anyone smell a rat :?: :shock:

that agent was mugging them off. Total mugs in charge of the club.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:09 pm

What kind of **** pays £50,000 to get some gossip on someone?
It is Tan who looks the imbecile in all this.


While I do agree it puts Tan in a bad light.

I think most people would pay 50k if they thought it meant they wouldnt have to pay 7m out.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY SUE AGENT! "

Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:12 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
What kind of **** pays £50,000 to get some gossip on someone?
It is Tan who looks the imbecile in all this.


While I do agree it puts Tan in a bad light.

I think most people would pay 50k if they thought it meant they wouldnt have to pay 7m out.


Agree with you.