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Cardiff City - the blame game

Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:01 pm

There are many people culpable for the 'fake' club now plying it's trade out of CF11 and for the ridiculous amount of debt it now finds itself in.

A good place to start would be Sam Hammam - without Hammam's financially reckless ownership the conditions for Cardiff City to be rebranded would never have existed.

Ridsdale - Another chancer who exacerbated the excesses of the Hammam era

Borley - 'Mr Red or Dead.' Once a man that I held in the highest regard. Borley has, as far as I'm concerned, forever sullied his reputation through his perpetuation of the red or dead myth via social networking forums and through disgraceful online jibes at those peacefully opposed to the rebrand. There are some pictures of Borley giving it large whilst wearing a red wig celebrating promotion on the day of the open top bus tour. Hardly the most heinous of crimes but it tells you everything you need to know about him. I know others disagree, that is, of course, their free choice, but I have zero respect for the man.

Local media - Aside from a brief spell under departing editor Tim Gordon, the Echo, over the years, has been worse than useless in terms of asking searching questions over how the club is run. If ever a clubs support was in need of a campaigning local newspaper it was City fans. BBC Wales have been just as hopeless.

A section of the clubs support - putting aside the persistent attempts by factions within the clubs own support to discredit any kind of peaceful protest, longer term there have plenty of reasons why we were so disjointed and divided rather than united when the rebrand saga first began. There had been a reluctance to support CCST (a group set up on democratic principles and part of a far bigger national movement) almost since day one. In fact, that's being polite - right from its infancy there have been concerted efforts by sizeable chunks of Cardiff City's support to discredit this group and strangle it in its infancy. This coupled with apathy was one of the reasons why when a strong supporters trust was desperately needed it was found to be totally toothless.

Vincent Tan - the man himself. In some respects Tan has just behaved as out of touch very wealthy people used to getting their own way often do. The fact remains though that he has acted in an incredibly arrogant manner and his financial management of the club certainly threatens it's longer term existence.

Re: Cardiff City - the blame game

Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:17 pm

alfie sherwood wrote:There are many people culpable for the 'fake' club now plying it's trade out of CF11 and for the ridiculous amount of debt it now finds itself in.

A good place to start would be Sam Hammam - without Hammam's financially reckless ownership the conditions for Cardiff City to be rebranded would never have existed.

Not 100% about this bit.

Ridsdale - Another chancer who exacerbated the excesses of the Hammam era

Nearly pulled it off looking back now. Risked everything though.

Borley - 'Mr Red or Dead.' Once a man that I held in the highest regard. Borley has, as far as I'm concerned, forever sullied his reputation through his perpetuation of the red or dead myth via social networking forums and through disgraceful online jibes at those peacefully opposed to the rebrand. There are some pictures of Borley giving it large whilst wearing a red wig celebrating promotion on the day of the open top bus tour. Hardly the most heinous of crimes but it tells you everything you need to know about him. I know others disagree, that is, of course, their free choice, but I have zero respect for the man.

From hero to zero this guy.

Local media - Aside from a brief spell under departing editor Tim Gordon, the Echo, over the years, has been worse than useless in terms of asking searching questions over how the club is run. If ever a clubs support was in need of a campaigning local newspaper it was City fans. BBC Wales have been just as hopeless.

Never got behind us since the hooligan days. Won't do until we are successful in the premier.

A section of the clubs support - putting aside the persistent attempts by factions within the clubs own support to discredit any kind of peaceful protest, longer term there have plenty of reasons why we were so disjointed and divided rather than united when the rebrand saga first began. There had been a reluctance to support CCST (a group set up on democratic principles and part of a far bigger national movement) almost since day one. In fact, that's being polite - right from its infancy there have been concerted efforts by sizeable chunks of Cardiff City's support to discredit this group and strangle it in its infancy. This coupled with apathy was one of the reasons why when a strong supporters trust was desperately needed it was found to be totally toothless.

The section should be sectioned as far as I am concerned. Hope they are exposed for their wrong doing.

Vincent Tan - the man himself. In some respects Tan has just behaved as out of touch very wealthy people used to getting their own way often do. The fact remains though that he has acted in an incredibly arrogant manner and his financial management of the club certainly threatens it's longer term existence.


More money than sense although we have seen the money but no sense.