other things tan has said

Other things tan has recently said but has not been mentioned on here I wonder why hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I did not borrow money to put into cardiff city I used my own and realise it is a long term thing to get a profit from
a football club even maybe 20 years
he also said he is buying in to other clubs but has NO intention of selling cardiff any time soon
also said he has made mistakes but has learnt from them
also said he now knows how to make cardiff succesful financially
these are not words of a fool or clown these words do not make us a laughing stock
apart from the colour change and badge change he has done nothing wrong
even the debt is not a real problem as its all his
just trying to put the other side of tan into the debates hmmmmmmmm
bet this dont get stickied hmmmmmmmm

apart from the colour change and badge change he has done nothing wrong

He keeps going public and making himself look stupid. Remember the Ole is a better manager than Malky. One of many stupid statements he has made.

In the past mate
as he said ive made mistakes but have learnt from them

Steve,

You put across an argument for Vincent Tan, which if you believe in what you write then I have to say fair play to you for believing in it but I don't buy into the same 'total positive' thinking.

But what concerns me more is not the 'other things' that Tan has said but the bits that are your opinion, in particular ' even the debt is not a real problem '.

Firstly are you saying that a business that has borrowed £170m of debt to one man is not a problem?

What the hell is wrong with some of our fans?

A question for you Steve, if Tan decides to no longer subsidise the club and decides he wants out, which he will at some point, how does the club manage to control a level of debt that our income steams do not sustain?

Is that not a problem to you ?

We are a Championship club with record levels of debt and it is not as if we are flying high to propel the club back to the riches of the Premier League.

The debt concerns me more than anything else that is going on at the club.

Tan said he would convert the debt to equity, so far he hasn't despite promises based on a number of things happening, ie. Langston and Malky settled, both have happened and still no conversion.

Tan has lied and I don't trust him but you want to focus on quotes that suit your belief in him.

The malkey thing has NOT been settled yet, there is a long way to go why not wait until it habeen then you can have a go at VT if he does not do it then also there are a few agents to sortt out

The malkey thing has NOT been settled yet, there is a long way to go why not wait until it habeen then you can have a go at VT if he does not do it then also there are a few agents to sortt out

Malky dropped all litigation against the club and that litigation is what Tan referred to when he spoke about debt to equity conversion.

Are you mad??????
why are you pointing out positive things for????
That's not what this board is about!!!!
You want to talk positives and football, then go elswhere.
That's not what this board is about these days.
This is the we hate Tan and all he brings board.

The negatives thinga he has said are fact.

What you have listed is mostly hypothetical and in his warped head.

That is the differenice. It's like me saying, I am a great manager. Am I? No.

Steve,

You put across an argument for Vincent Tan, which if you believe in what you write then I have to say fair play to you for believing in it but I don't buy into the same 'total positive' thinking.

But what concerns me more is not the 'other things' that Tan has said but the bits that are your opinion, in particular ' even the debt is not a real problem '.

Firstly are you saying that a business that has borrowed £170m of debt to one man is not a problem?

What the hell is wrong with some of our fans?

A question for you Steve, if Tan decides to no longer subsidise the club and decides he wants out, which he will at some point, how does the club manage to control a level of debt that our income steams do not sustain?

Is that not a problem to you ?

We are a Championship club with record levels of debt and it is not as if we are flying high to propel the club back to the riches of the Premier League.

The debt concerns me more than anything else that is going on at the club.

Tan said he would convert the debt to equity, so far he hasn't despite promises based on a number of things happening, ie. Langston and Malky settled, both have happened and still no conversion.

Tan has lied and I don't trust him but you want to focus on quotes that suit your belief in him.

Well Carl, your spot on with this and guess what Steve for the 100th time you have got your sticky

Can I make observation? Before tan came along We were already in debt to tune of 40m?? depends on who you believe ! So whilst are debt is how ever big it is tan as only consolidated all debts!
PS wonder if there is another reason why tan hasn't or won't convert debt to equity? As it is so big and is unsustainable?

Some are to stupid to realise he's not giving us the money he's loaning it to us essentialy with intrest the sooner he sells up the better.

Some are to stupid to realise he's not giving us the money he's loaning it to us essentialy with intrest the sooner he sells up the better.

lending us money the club cannot repay!! weired to say the least wonder why he's doing it???

Steve,

You put across an argument for Vincent Tan, which if you believe in what you write then I have to say fair play to you for believing in it but I don't buy into the same 'total positive' thinking.

But what concerns me more is not the 'other things' that Tan has said but the bits that are your opinion, in particular ' even the debt is not a real problem '.

Firstly are you saying that a business that has borrowed £170m of debt to one man is not a problem?

What the hell is wrong with some of our fans?

A question for you Steve, if Tan decides to no longer subsidise the club and decides he wants out, which he will at some point, how does the club manage to control a level of debt that our income steams do not sustain?

Is that not a problem to you ?

We are a Championship club with record levels of debt and it is not as if we are flying high to propel the club back to the riches of the Premier League.

The debt concerns me more than anything else that is going on at the club.

Carl there are many who want Tan out. Surely that would be a huge disaster for us?

Tan said he would convert the debt to equity, so far he hasn't despite promises based on a number of things happening, ie. Langston and Malky settled, both have happened and still no conversion.

Tan has lied and I don't trust him but you want to focus on quotes that suit your belief in him.

Steve,

You put across an argument for Vincent Tan, which if you believe in what you write then I have to say fair play to you for believing in it but I don't buy into the same 'total positive' thinking.

But what concerns me more is not the 'other things' that Tan has said but the bits that are your opinion, in particular ' even the debt is not a real problem '.

Firstly are you saying that a business that has borrowed £170m of debt to one man is not a problem?

What the hell is wrong with some of our fans?

A question for you Steve, if Tan decides to no longer subsidise the club and decides he wants out, which he will at some point, how does the club manage to control a level of debt that our income steams do not sustain?

Is that not a problem to you ?

We are a Championship club with record levels of debt and it is not as if we are flying high to propel the club back to the riches of the Premier League.

The debt concerns me more than anything else that is going on at the club.


Tan said he would convert the debt to equity, so far he hasn't despite promises based on a number of things happening, ie. Langston and Malky settled, both have happened and still no conversion.

Tan has lied and I don't trust him but you want to focus on quotes that suit your belief in him.

Carl there are many who want Tan gone. Surely that would be a disaster for the club with the alleged 170 million debt to Tan.

Carl where do youget that figure from and can you prove it
what was our debt when tan said he would convert it to equity

[quote="troobloo3339"]Carl where do youget that figure from and can you prove it
what was our debt when tan said he would convert it to equity [/qu yoote]

When tan took over our debt was in region of 40m! He said he would invest £100m with various projects new stand being one! Not sure what's happened to the other plans training centre ect or how much he as actually invested or how much he as used to prop us up? Don't think anyone can say for certain what our debt is as obviously premier money comes into it as well so muddying the waters. Obviously longer it goes on without converting the bigger the amount.

I agree Pembroke
the point im trying to make is if he lets say turn our debt to equity 6 or 12 months ago
fans on here would be calling for him to do it again as the debt is still growing
imo if he owns us and the debt keeps growing then he is only actually reducing share value surely
if our debt is 50 million or 100 million or 200 million there is only so much equity he can have so imo let him keep on spending ffs