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Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:19 pm
Military Junta wrote:Told you all it was a complete waste of our taxpayers money: walesairforum.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/cardiff-airport-seeks-more-airlines-to-arrest-decline/
Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:04 pm
Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:04 pm
MalagaCF wrote:They done the right thing in my eyes. There's talk of more airlines coming to Cardiff.
They need to get some large corporations in to buy the place. Losing the airport would be unthinkable. £50 million is peanuts compared to running the welsh assemble with their large oayvand pensions.
Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:06 pm
Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:38 pm
Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:58 pm
Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:35 pm
moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:19 am
Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:39 am
Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Sorry it was WAG who took car parking charges and made all perscipsions free so obviously the downside of such a promise both an election will end up costing money. On top of that they brought an Airport for £50 million and the running costs continue to raise and add that all up you still blame Westminister FFS
Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:49 pm
moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:55 pm
Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Sorry it was WAG who took car parking charges and made all perscipsions free so obviously the downside of such a promise both an election will end up costing money. On top of that they brought an Airport for £50 million and the running costs continue to raise and add that all up you still blame Westminister FFS
Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:05 pm
Fusilier52 wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Benefit to Wales ,how do you work that out ,crap road links and a non existent rail link ,the only decent way of getting there is by a plane and that would have to be from Bristol . if you live any where other than South East Wales then forget it .Spendthe money the NHS something worthy not some cock eyed ideal who benefits no one but a few
Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:14 pm
moonboots wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Benefit to Wales ,how do you work that out ,crap road links and a non existent rail link ,the only decent way of getting there is by a plane and that would have to be from Bristol . if you live any where other than South East Wales then forget it .Spendthe money the NHS something worthy not some cock eyed ideal who benefits no one but a few
Now that the Welsh Government has bought the airport how do you know that they don't have plans to develop it and improve road and rail links? When it was under private ownership it was being run down and was benefitting no one, but at least the current owners have a clear motivation to make it work for the people of south east Wales. It will take years to build it up to where it should be but I have more faith now that it is in public hands than when it was privately owned.
Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:07 am
Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Benefit to Wales ,how do you work that out ,crap road links and a non existent rail link ,the only decent way of getting there is by a plane and that would have to be from Bristol . if you live any where other than South East Wales then forget it .Spendthe money the NHS something worthy not some cock eyed ideal who benefits no one but a few
Now that the Welsh Government has bought the airport how do you know that they don't have plans to develop it and improve road and rail links? When it was under private ownership it was being run down and was benefitting no one, but at least the current owners have a clear motivation to make it work for the people of south east Wales. It will take years to build it up to where it should be but I have more faith now that it is in public hands than when it was privately owned.
Because the vast majority of Governments across the world has sold off its airports because they piss taxpayers money away. This isn't just the £50 million which they brought it for as it won't be long and it will be passing the £100 million mark within the next few years if it isn't making a profit soon so how long will the blinkered give them until you concide defeat ? It wasn't long they got the flags out to celebrate a rail link to the airport only for it to be actually a few milles away from the airport. As for a road improvements let's be honest there's been so much talk of it over the years if they really want it they would have done it by now
Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:04 pm
Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:10 pm
moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Benefit to Wales ,how do you work that out ,crap road links and a non existent rail link ,the only decent way of getting there is by a plane and that would have to be from Bristol . if you live any where other than South East Wales then forget it .Spendthe money the NHS something worthy not some cock eyed ideal who benefits no one but a few
Now that the Welsh Government has bought the airport how do you know that they don't have plans to develop it and improve road and rail links? When it was under private ownership it was being run down and was benefitting no one, but at least the current owners have a clear motivation to make it work for the people of south east Wales. It will take years to build it up to where it should be but I have more faith now that it is in public hands than when it was privately owned.
Because the vast majority of Governments across the world has sold off its airports because they piss taxpayers money away. This isn't just the £50 million which they brought it for as it won't be long and it will be passing the £100 million mark within the next few years if it isn't making a profit soon so how long will the blinkered give them until you concide defeat ? It wasn't long they got the flags out to celebrate a rail link to the airport only for it to be actually a few milles away from the airport. As for a road improvements let's be honest there's been so much talk of it over the years if they really want it they would have done it by now
Is that a fact or just your opinion? You really are Mr Negative. If you want to believe it will fail that's up to you.
Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:04 pm
Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Benefit to Wales ,how do you work that out ,crap road links and a non existent rail link ,the only decent way of getting there is by a plane and that would have to be from Bristol . if you live any where other than South East Wales then forget it .Spendthe money the NHS something worthy not some cock eyed ideal who benefits no one but a few
Now that the Welsh Government has bought the airport how do you know that they don't have plans to develop it and improve road and rail links? When it was under private ownership it was being run down and was benefitting no one, but at least the current owners have a clear motivation to make it work for the people of south east Wales. It will take years to build it up to where it should be but I have more faith now that it is in public hands than when it was privately owned.
Because the vast majority of Governments across the world has sold off its airports because they piss taxpayers money away. This isn't just the £50 million which they brought it for as it won't be long and it will be passing the £100 million mark within the next few years if it isn't making a profit soon so how long will the blinkered give them until you concide defeat ? It wasn't long they got the flags out to celebrate a rail link to the airport only for it to be actually a few milles away from the airport. As for a road improvements let's be honest there's been so much talk of it over the years if they really want it they would have done it by now
Is that a fact or just your opinion? You really are Mr Negative. If you want to believe it will fail that's up to you.
Its a fact, those were one of the first state-owned assets which were sold off when the old Eastern bloc Countries coming into the modern age. Surprizingly enough through the USA and Canada still have the majority of their airports state owned. But throughtout the World the cast majority of airports are either privately owned or contacted out to private companies. Next question..?
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:21 pm
moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Benefit to Wales ,how do you work that out ,crap road links and a non existent rail link ,the only decent way of getting there is by a plane and that would have to be from Bristol . if you live any where other than South East Wales then forget it .Spendthe money the NHS something worthy not some cock eyed ideal who benefits no one but a few
Now that the Welsh Government has bought the airport how do you know that they don't have plans to develop it and improve road and rail links? When it was under private ownership it was being run down and was benefitting no one, but at least the current owners have a clear motivation to make it work for the people of south east Wales. It will take years to build it up to where it should be but I have more faith now that it is in public hands than when it was privately owned.
Because the vast majority of Governments across the world has sold off its airports because they piss taxpayers money away. This isn't just the £50 million which they brought it for as it won't be long and it will be passing the £100 million mark within the next few years if it isn't making a profit soon so how long will the blinkered give them until you concide defeat ? It wasn't long they got the flags out to celebrate a rail link to the airport only for it to be actually a few milles away from the airport. As for a road improvements let's be honest there's been so much talk of it over the years if they really want it they would have done it by now
Is that a fact or just your opinion? You really are Mr Negative. If you want to believe it will fail that's up to you.
Its a fact, those were one of the first state-owned assets which were sold off when the old Eastern bloc Countries coming into the modern age. Surprizingly enough through the USA and Canada still have the majority of their airports state owned. But throughtout the World the cast majority of airports are either privately owned or contacted out to private companies. Next question..?
What's good enough for the USA, the champions of capitalism, is good enough for Wales![]()
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Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:59 pm
Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Benefit to Wales ,how do you work that out ,crap road links and a non existent rail link ,the only decent way of getting there is by a plane and that would have to be from Bristol . if you live any where other than South East Wales then forget it .Spendthe money the NHS something worthy not some cock eyed ideal who benefits no one but a few
Now that the Welsh Government has bought the airport how do you know that they don't have plans to develop it and improve road and rail links? When it was under private ownership it was being run down and was benefitting no one, but at least the current owners have a clear motivation to make it work for the people of south east Wales. It will take years to build it up to where it should be but I have more faith now that it is in public hands than when it was privately owned.
Because the vast majority of Governments across the world has sold off its airports because they piss taxpayers money away. This isn't just the £50 million which they brought it for as it won't be long and it will be passing the £100 million mark within the next few years if it isn't making a profit soon so how long will the blinkered give them until you concide defeat ? It wasn't long they got the flags out to celebrate a rail link to the airport only for it to be actually a few milles away from the airport. As for a road improvements let's be honest there's been so much talk of it over the years if they really want it they would have done it by now
Is that a fact or just your opinion? You really are Mr Negative. If you want to believe it will fail that's up to you.
Its a fact, those were one of the first state-owned assets which were sold off when the old Eastern bloc Countries coming into the modern age. Surprizingly enough through the USA and Canada still have the majority of their airports state owned. But throughtout the World the cast majority of airports are either privately owned or contacted out to private companies. Next question..?
What's good enough for the USA, the champions of capitalism, is good enough for Wales![]()
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But the USA doesn't have a NHS to pay for does it and Cardiff Airport could only dream of the passenger numbers many American airports have
Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:40 pm
moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:Fusilier52 wrote:moonboots wrote:Military Junta wrote:While people are dying while on the lengthing NHS waiting lists the WAG buy an airport and keep ploughing our taxes into it
The NHS in Wales is underfunded because Westminster is cutting the Welsh budget by around 10% each year and because they give the Scots loads more dosh than us. If we were funded at the same rate as every man, woman and child in Scotland, Wales would get an extra £1.2 BILLION per year. Now that WOULD save a few lives. The airport is a sensible investment because it means that the Welsh Government can make it work for Wales in such a way that it will contribute to the wealth making process in Wales. The Welsh Government have very few economic levers with which to increase prosperity in Wales because Westminster holds all the purse strings. Personally I think they are trying the best they can with both hands tied behind their backs. It's easy to be negative though, isn't it?
Benefit to Wales ,how do you work that out ,crap road links and a non existent rail link ,the only decent way of getting there is by a plane and that would have to be from Bristol . if you live any where other than South East Wales then forget it .Spendthe money the NHS something worthy not some cock eyed ideal who benefits no one but a few
Now that the Welsh Government has bought the airport how do you know that they don't have plans to develop it and improve road and rail links? When it was under private ownership it was being run down and was benefitting no one, but at least the current owners have a clear motivation to make it work for the people of south east Wales. It will take years to build it up to where it should be but I have more faith now that it is in public hands than when it was privately owned.
Because the vast majority of Governments across the world has sold off its airports because they piss taxpayers money away. This isn't just the £50 million which they brought it for as it won't be long and it will be passing the £100 million mark within the next few years if it isn't making a profit soon so how long will the blinkered give them until you concide defeat ? It wasn't long they got the flags out to celebrate a rail link to the airport only for it to be actually a few milles away from the airport. As for a road improvements let's be honest there's been so much talk of it over the years if they really want it they would have done it by now
Is that a fact or just your opinion? You really are Mr Negative. If you want to believe it will fail that's up to you.
Its a fact, those were one of the first state-owned assets which were sold off when the old Eastern bloc Countries coming into the modern age. Surprizingly enough through the USA and Canada still have the majority of their airports state owned. But throughtout the World the cast majority of airports are either privately owned or contacted out to private companies. Next question..?
What's good enough for the USA, the champions of capitalism, is good enough for Wales![]()
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But the USA doesn't have a NHS to pay for does it and Cardiff Airport could only dream of the passenger numbers many American airports have
If you think that £50m or even £100m would make a significant difference to the NHS in Wales you are deluded. Wales already spends more per head of population than England on health but because Wales has more deep-rooted health problems due to an older population, a tradition of heavy industries (coal and steel which of course were decimated by the Tories) and being the poorest region of the UK which leads to problems with poor diets causing heart problems, type 2 diabetes and other issues, it means that we are, by comparison, underfunded on the basis of need. So rather than rabbit on about the airport, on which you clearly have an irritating little bee in your bonnet, why don't you bang on about Wales receiving the same level of funding per head of population as the Scots which would give us an extra £1.2 BILLION per year which really would help to transform our NHS as well as education, roads and housing, or do you think that Welsh people don't deserve to be treated equally to the Scots?
To be honest this thread has been done to death and no one can prove who is right and who is wrong at the moment. It's the sort of investment that you have to give at least five and probably ten years to see if the Welsh Government made the right decision. The early indications, due to an annual rise in passenger numbers, shows it has made a good decision but I accept that could change. Only time will tell.