Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:43 pm
Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:44 pm
Forever Blue wrote:
Also I can only tell you want I was told, it's suppose to say in it that Tan had a right to say if he wants players to play??
Slade was one game from being sacked.
. Even in Sam's time it was pretty well known that he woldn't let the manager pick Whalley because it might have cost him a bonus due to his contract, and I think it happened with a few others at the time. I also seem to remember a similar issue at the end of Leggy's tenure with the club although I can't recall the detail.
Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:20 pm
piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:
Also I can only tell you want I was told, it's suppose to say in it that Tan had a right to say if he wants players to play??
Slade was one game from being sacked.
No problem with Tan having "a right to say if he wants players to play" as long as it isn't the final say![]()
To be fair, it's not unheard of although I'd rather he kept well away myself. Even in Sam's time it was pretty well known that he woldn't let the manager pick Whalley because it might have cost him a bonus due to his contract, and I think it happened with a few others at the time. I also seem to remember a similar issue at the end of Leggy's tenure with the club although I can't recall the detail.
As for Slade being a game away from the sack that's one better than many new managers as most will have already been sacked from their previous jobs![]()
In all seriousness, over a long period Slade did very well at Orient and therefore should be judged on where the club were when he started to where they were when he finished, particularly as he had to sell all of his best players and had little/no money to spend. He is a risk but so far he's averaging 2 points a game which is promotion form, simple
Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:37 pm
Forever Blue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:
Also I can only tell you want I was told, it's suppose to say in it that Tan had a right to say if he wants players to play??
Slade was one game from being sacked.
No problem with Tan having "a right to say if he wants players to play" as long as it isn't the final say![]()
To be fair, it's not unheard of although I'd rather he kept well away myself. Even in Sam's time it was pretty well known that he woldn't let the manager pick Whalley because it might have cost him a bonus due to his contract, and I think it happened with a few others at the time. I also seem to remember a similar issue at the end of Leggy's tenure with the club although I can't recall the detail.
As for Slade being a game away from the sack that's one better than many new managers as most will have already been sacked from their previous jobs![]()
In all seriousness, over a long period Slade did very well at Orient and therefore should be judged on where the club were when he started to where they were when he finished, particularly as he had to sell all of his best players and had little/no money to spend. He is a risk but so far he's averaging 2 points a game which is promotion form, simple
Fair response![]()
The only problem I see is that Tan virtually knows nothing about football.
Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:39 pm
Woodville Willie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:
Also I can only tell you want I was told, it's suppose to say in it that Tan had a right to say if he wants players to play??
Slade was one game from being sacked.
No problem with Tan having "a right to say if he wants players to play" as long as it isn't the final say![]()
To be fair, it's not unheard of although I'd rather he kept well away myself. Even in Sam's time it was pretty well known that he woldn't let the manager pick Whalley because it might have cost him a bonus due to his contract, and I think it happened with a few others at the time. I also seem to remember a similar issue at the end of Leggy's tenure with the club although I can't recall the detail.
As for Slade being a game away from the sack that's one better than many new managers as most will have already been sacked from their previous jobs![]()
In all seriousness, over a long period Slade did very well at Orient and therefore should be judged on where the club were when he started to where they were when he finished, particularly as he had to sell all of his best players and had little/no money to spend. He is a risk but so far he's averaging 2 points a game which is promotion form, simple
Fair response![]()
The only problem I see is that Tan virtually knows nothing about football.
Trouble is Annis, he THINKS he now knows about football, thanks to serving his apprenticeship at Cardiff. What a joke!![]()
I feel sorry for Slade if he doesn't have really good win bonuses etc. otherwise if he does well, he could be attracted to other clubs.![]()
I hope it's not true too!!
Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:42 pm
Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:01 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Ffs Annis if you believe this there is no hope! No manager regardless of their situation is going to agree to owner having say who can play? Same was said when mm was here & ole ! Guess next manager will agree as well? Pay I can see logic to that, the rest is pure mischief making by someone!!
Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:30 pm
Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:43 pm
NIBluebird wrote:Tan more than anyone knows that bonuses and incentives are crucial in achieving anything in business.
Slade surely must be on some bonuses , win , promotion etc ?
Cant see Tan being that naïve ?
Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:50 pm
Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:04 pm
Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Ffs Annis if you believe this there is no hope! No manager regardless of their situation is going to agree to owner having say who can play? Same was said when mm was here & ole ! Guess next manager will agree as well? Pay I can see logic to that, the rest is pure mischief making by someone!!
Allan, Ole there really was No hope and Slade I feel sorry for,but no I don't feel there is any real hope under Tan and you of all people should know that's is what I honestly believe.
Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:08 pm
Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:28 pm
Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:39 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Russell Slades contract ?
Not 100% Sure if all true, but was told the following, make what you want of it
I was told yesterday that Tan has made it,that it is all in favour of our Club and that it is approx £120,000 a year(Ole with Bonuses £4mill)that I have No problem with at all, Great
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Learnt from his previous mistakes after more than 4 years.
Also I can only tell you want I was told, it's suppose to say in it that Tan had a right to say if he wants players to play??
I hope it's not true,but it's come from a reputable person.
Why would Slade sign it?
Slade was one game from being sacked.
Orient were struggling.
No money at Orient,only selling club.
And of course the chance to finally manage in a higher league after years at Orient,Yeovil,Grimsby etc.
Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:41 pm
Davedingbluebird wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong Annis but wasn't Slade on similar wages at orient?
Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:00 pm
ThomasC wrote:It's common for Asian clubs to have the owners picking the teams, so why would stray from that culture? He clearly does not want to conform to a standard practice of how to run a footy club.
I believe it to be true he is picking the team, the 'Wenger' comment was a sincere wish on his part that Slade coaches and he picks the team and that it works
Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:27 pm
pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:It's common for Asian clubs to have the owners picking the teams, so why would stray from that culture? He clearly does not want to conform to a standard practice of how to run a footy club.
I believe it to be true he is picking the team, the 'Wenger' comment was a sincere wish on his part that Slade coaches and he picks the team and that it works
Maybe their culture but if you think he rings up and says pick him and him without any knowledge of how he is playing or what formation Slade us playing how he wants that player to play ect you are very naive in extreme.![]()
And city will be relegated for certain.
Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:57 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:It's common for Asian clubs to have the owners picking the teams, so why would stray from that culture? He clearly does not want to conform to a standard practice of how to run a footy club.
I believe it to be true he is picking the team, the 'Wenger' comment was a sincere wish on his part that Slade coaches and he picks the team and that it works
Maybe their culture but if you think he rings up and says pick him and him without any knowledge of how he is playing or what formation Slade us playing how he wants that player to play ect you are very naive in extreme.![]()
And city will be relegated for certain.
Tan ordered that Guerra and a couple of others play against Bournemouth in the league cup.
I really think the likes of you Allen should step back before you post.
but what i just stated is not far wrong or do you think tan actually picks up fone asks who is playing then tells slade sorry dont wont him playing but play him instead? ffs get real Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:59 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:It's common for Asian clubs to have the owners picking the teams, so why would stray from that culture? He clearly does not want to conform to a standard practice of how to run a footy club.
I believe it to be true he is picking the team, the 'Wenger' comment was a sincere wish on his part that Slade coaches and he picks the team and that it works
Maybe their culture but if you think he rings up and says pick him and him without any knowledge of how he is playing or what formation Slade us playing how he wants that player to play ect you are very naive in extreme.![]()
And city will be relegated for certain.
Tan ordered that Guerra and a couple of others play against Bournemouth in the league cup.
I really think the likes of you Allen should step back before you post.
WHY ITS MY OPINION SAME AS YOURS?ordered to play guerra, ect i suppose you had 1st hand knowledge this happened or did you tap tans fone?? just wonderde like!!
but what i just stated is not far wrong or do you think tan actually picks up fone asks who is playing then tells slade sorry dont wont him playing but play him instead? ffs get real
Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:03 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:It's common for Asian clubs to have the owners picking the teams, so why would stray from that culture? He clearly does not want to conform to a standard practice of how to run a footy club.
I believe it to be true he is picking the team, the 'Wenger' comment was a sincere wish on his part that Slade coaches and he picks the team and that it works
Maybe their culture but if you think he rings up and says pick him and him without any knowledge of how he is playing or what formation Slade us playing how he wants that player to play ect you are very naive in extreme.![]()
And city will be relegated for certain.
Tan ordered that Guerra and a couple of others play against Bournemouth in the league cup.
I really think the likes of you Allen should step back before you post.
WHY ITS MY OPINION SAME AS YOURS?ordered to play guerra, ect i suppose you had 1st hand knowledge this happened or did you tap tans fone?? just wonderde like!!
but what i just stated is not far wrong or do you think tan actually picks up fone asks who is playing then tells slade sorry dont wont him playing but play him instead? ffs get real
No I did not tape Tans phone because it become common knowledge Tan wanted Guerra and the 2 others to play as there was interest in the trio.
Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:20 am
Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:25 am
Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:59 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Russell Slades contract ?
Not 100% Sure if all true, but was told the following, make what you want of it
I was told yesterday that Tan has made it,that it is all in favour of our Club and that it is approx £120,000 a year(Ole with Bonuses £4mill)that I have No problem with at all, Great
![]()
Learnt from his previous mistakes after more than 4 years.
Also I can only tell you want I was told, it's suppose to say in it that Tan had a right to say if he wants players to play??
I hope it's not true,but it's come from a reputable person.
Why would Slade sign it?
Slade was one game from being sacked.
Orient were struggling.
No money at Orient,only selling club.
And of course the chance to finally manage in a higher league after years at Orient,Yeovil,Grimsby etc.
Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:05 pm
Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:21 am
Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:51 pm
Forever Blue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:
Also I can only tell you want I was told, it's suppose to say in it that Tan had a right to say if he wants players to play??
Slade was one game from being sacked.
No problem with Tan having "a right to say if he wants players to play" as long as it isn't the final say![]()
To be fair, it's not unheard of although I'd rather he kept well away myself. Even in Sam's time it was pretty well known that he woldn't let the manager pick Whalley because it might have cost him a bonus due to his contract, and I think it happened with a few others at the time. I also seem to remember a similar issue at the end of Leggy's tenure with the club although I can't recall the detail.
As for Slade being a game away from the sack that's one better than many new managers as most will have already been sacked from their previous jobs![]()
In all seriousness, over a long period Slade did very well at Orient and therefore should be judged on where the club were when he started to where they were when he finished, particularly as he had to sell all of his best players and had little/no money to spend. He is a risk but so far he's averaging 2 points a game which is promotion form, simple
Fair response![]()
The only problem I see is that Tan virtually knows nothing about football.
Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:07 pm