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Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:50 pm

Ravel and Matts never starts under Slade. Guerra can't get on the bench. I fail to see what the likes of Pilks, Ralls, le Fondre, Macheda and Maynard are offering that Matts, Guerra and Ravel can't do better?

Ravel was the only attacking player that looked remotely dangerous today. Pilks was terrible and Noone is clearly not yet on song why not start Ravel? Against a team like Millwall we should have played the ball at the ground used our more technical players to outwit them. Players hoofing the ball upfield when Millwall are playing 2 massive Centre backs was never gonna work. We needed someone with a football brain out there today.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:52 pm

Ravel - Injured
matts - done FA in this league so far
Guerra - ?????????

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:57 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Ravel - Injured
matts - done FA in this league so far
Guerra - ?????????

Ravel- was not injured today should have started. The best out of a bad bunch in midfield.

Matts- done f**k all as opposed to who? Ralls? Maynard Noone? Lefondre? Macheda? Pilks has played plenty of bad games for us :lol: Seems you measure him to a much higher standard than the rest of the team
Guerra-?????


Also where is connolly? At least he can pass the ball, morrison is dreadful in possession.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:00 pm

One minute everyone wants a settled team, lose a game & why aren't we making changes.

We're Cardiff city & we moan about everything.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:03 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:One minute everyone wants a settled team, lose a game & why aren't we making changes.

We're Cardiff city & we moan about everything.

Ravel is clearly a much better player than Pilks and Ralls. He should be playing. Matts should at least be used as an impact sub when things aren't going our way

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:41 pm

The answer to you question is simple..... Russell doesn't rate them and they will been gone in January.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:01 pm

Ravel to selfish

Matts to light weight

Guerra full of his own importance

These are my thoughts :thumbup:

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:08 pm

I bet this thread wouldn't be up if we had taken our chances and actually won today,

After months of silly changes week in week out the team need time to settle and actually gel! Ravel wasn't a 100% and i'd rather him start the next 3 games than start today and aggravate his injury.

Daehli is too lightweight and that Millwall team were a very physical side, they would have destroyed him and Guerra... his attitude seems to be disgusting, we don't need egos.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:03 pm

tremorfa boy wrote:Ravel to selfish

Matts to light weight

Guerra full of his own importance

These are my thoughts :thumbup:


ravel isn't selfish and he can have a huge effect on the game, his only problem is that he can get carried away and try to do too much......we desperately needed him today for the entirety of the match.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:17 pm

Matts is to lightweight? And Noone, Le Fondre, Whitts and Fabio isnt? Ridiculous not playing him in 4 games :old:
He was hitting form in the internationals and Cardiff didn't utilise. Guerra was made scape goat for Youngs own failings, no wonder i he went a bit sour. Not playing a striker of that calibre is silly! Using the same players 3 games in one week is equally silly with the squad depth we have. All we accomplish now is tiering players and making others wanting to leave for game time.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:24 pm

simon1927 wrote:I bet this thread wouldn't be up if we had taken our chances and actually won today,

After months of silly changes week in week out the team need time to settle and actually gel! Ravel wasn't a 100% and i'd rather him start the next 3 games than start today and aggravate his injury.

Daehli is too lightweight and that Millwall team were a very physical side, they would have destroyed him and Guerra... his attitude seems to be disgusting, we don't need egos.

I asked why Guerra wasn't playing before. Honestly feel that these are our best attacking players along with Noone, problem is Noone looks unfit you mentioned Ravel isn't 100% but i think don't think Noone is either. Macheda looks unfit. Tbh We were crying out for creativity today and Slade made some underwhelming changes like Maynard and Ralls, who btw is very lightweight too.
As for Guerras alleged disgusting attitude, what exactly is this based on?
We were were gash today, couldn't hold on to the ball,if we wanted to beat Millwall at their game with the long balls why stick le fondre or maynard on top? milwalls big 6ft centre backs were having a field day picking up all those long balls. I just think if you played the ball at the ground they wouldn't be so comfortable. We played into their strengths imo.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:46 am

Ravel has only just come back from injury so he rightly started on the bench..

Mats doesn't really suit they way we played & out of him and Ravel to come off the bench and play, I'd much prefer Ravel.

Guerra hasn't been favoured by three management setups now... Is there something we don't know?

Plus, everyone was complaining about OGS rotation policy. Now they are moaning about the same team being selected. Fickle fans.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:14 am

What Scott Young did to Guerra was disgraceful. Blaming him and Kim for that performance against Bournemouth.

So the only thing he has been accused of officially is not trying and making no effort.

It is the club staff to blame for that if true. The general rule is footballers want to play football so I don't see how Guerra is any different. He made alot of appearances for Valladolid so is not a professional bench warmer and there may lye his unhappiness

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:09 am

f**k me gently, we're only 3 games in and it's started.

Malky moaned at for settled team.
OGS moaned at for unsettled team.

Let the guy get his feet in the door and suss out their mentality.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:10 am

Yeah our whole team is shit again now we've lost a game :sleepy2:

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:35 am

Every single player deserved to start that game yesterday.

Ravel not 100% fit

Dhaeli - not as good as the Norwegian posters think, imagine Dhaeli on the pitch yesterday, he would have got destroyed. He also doesn't suit a 4-4-2 formation

Guerra - threw his top down at Bournemouth and refusing to play apparently (same with Cala)

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:33 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Ravel has only just come back from injury so he rightly started on the bench..

Mats doesn't really suit they way we played & out of him and Ravel to come off the bench and play, I'd much prefer Ravel.

Guerra hasn't been favoured by three management setups now... Is there something we don't know?

Plus, everyone was complaining about OGS rotation policy. Now they are moaning about the same team being selected. Fickle fans.

Fickled fans? Do you think we should run our players to the ground playing three games in 8 days? Sensible rotation dosent effekt stability. Every football club in the world understand that. Millwall beat us with 5 changes to the team.
Matts played two internationals out wide on another level than Pilks and Noone. But if he dosent fit, then its time for him to move on and think about his own career.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:42 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Fickled fans? Do you think we should run our players to the ground playing three games in 8 days? Sensible rotation dosent effekt stability. Every football club in the world understand that. Millwall beat us with 5 changes to the team.
Matts played two internationals out wide on another level than Pilks and Noone. But if he dosent fit, then its time for him to move on and think about his own career.


He's also played there for Cardiff City this season on many more occasions and been awful and wholly ineffective. :thumbup:

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:47 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Fickled fans? Do you think we should run our players to the ground playing three games in 8 days? Sensible rotation dosent effekt stability. Every football club in the world understand that. Millwall beat us with 5 changes to the team.
Matts played two internationals out wide on another level than Pilks and Noone. But if he dosent fit, then its time for him to move on and think about his own career.


He's also played there for Cardiff City this season on many more occasions and been awful and wholly ineffective. :thumbup:

So when he hit form we put him on the bench and give Noone a free pass ( havent played football for 6 months) and our own Ronaldo, Pilks is a given offcourse. I dont need to remind any one Matts was voted Motm by fans several times this season in a pretty equal shitty team..but if we want our best players to leave, this is the way to do it.

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:46 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Fickled fans? Do you think we should run our players to the ground playing three games in 8 days? Sensible rotation dosent effekt stability. Every football club in the world understand that. Millwall beat us with 5 changes to the team.
Matts played two internationals out wide on another level than Pilks and Noone. But if he dosent fit, then its time for him to move on and think about his own career.


He's also played there for Cardiff City this season on many more occasions and been awful and wholly ineffective. :thumbup:

Lets not exaggerate here, he was voted man of the match a couple of times on this very board this season. Granted he has been inconsistent this season. But so has a number of our other players. He seems to have become somewhat of a scapegoat this season amongst certain fans. Like Fabio was last season. Fickle fans indeed. :wave:

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:00 pm

LonCar wrote:Lets not exaggerate here, he was voted man of the match a couple of times on this very board this season. Granted he has been inconsistent this season. But so has a number of our other players. He seems to have become somewhat of a scapegoat this season amongst certain fans. Like Fabio was last season. Fickle fans indeed. :wave:


well the votes were certainly incorrect then. He's been poor and ineffective. I guess the management agree, Hence why he currently isn't playing.:wave:

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:04 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Fickled fans? Do you think we should run our players to the ground playing three games in 8 days? Sensible rotation dosent effekt stability. Every football club in the world understand that. Millwall beat us with 5 changes to the team.
Matts played two internationals out wide on another level than Pilks and Noone. But if he dosent fit, then its time for him to move on and think about his own career.


He's also played there for Cardiff City this season on many more occasions and been awful and wholly ineffective. :thumbup:

So when he hit form we put him on the bench and give Noone a free pass ( havent played football for 6 months) and our own Ronaldo, Pilks is a given offcourse. I dont need to remind any one Matts was voted Motm by fans several times this season in a pretty equal shitty team..but if we want our best players to leave, this is the way to do it.

Matts hasn't been as good as he was in the PL. I wasn't saying he should necessarily start over the other two wingers. But i do question why he can't at least be used more as an impact sub.
Both wingers were pretty poor yesterday,there was no service to the strikers and no composure on the ball in general. Those are qualities that both Matts and Guerra can bring to the table.It isn't enough to just stick Ravel on there imo.
I think we have to play Noone because he offers pace which we are severely lacking. On the other hand i feel Mats offers more than Pilks in attack, and i have no doubt he will be the superior player in a year or two. But Pilks has the edge defensively, which is probably why Slade plays him. What you would hope for is that Matts responds to this (when given a chance) by showing Slade why he should be in the team.I hope so because i defo want to see him in a cardiff shirt in years to come :thumbup:

Re: Why doesnt Slade use Guerra, Matts and Ravel more?

Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:01 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
LonCar wrote:Lets not exaggerate here, he was voted man of the match a couple of times on this very board this season. Granted he has been inconsistent this season. But so has a number of our other players. He seems to have become somewhat of a scapegoat this season amongst certain fans. Like Fabio was last season. Fickle fans indeed. :wave:


well the votes were certainly incorrect then. He's been poor and ineffective. I guess the management agree, Hence why he currently isn't playing.:wave:


Of course they were incorrect. None of the people who voted for him could possibly know as much about football (or anything else) as you. Who does? I hope that the mods will strike all those votes from the records.