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Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:03 pm

I gotta be honest, i was far from convinced that he was the man to take us forward, but the team has performed extremely well in the first 2 qualifiers. Andorra away was an absoloutely shocking pitch and im sure almost all teams will struggle there... it reminded me of a 5 a side pitch, and in all fairness, we dominated from start to finish, it just wasnt reflected in the result.

Bosnia at home, despite it being a 0-0 draw, that was the most inspired, exciting performance from a Wales team i've seen in a long while. In my opinion we would have nicked it if Ramsey and Allen were fit to provide that little bit of extra quality where it matters.

Coleman seems to have gelled this squad together extremely well, we were playing some top level football at times against Bosnia. Team spirit is clearly extremely high, and with Bale in the team, there is every possibility we can beat any team in the world if he has a blinder.

Idk, Coleman obviously isn't the most backed manager in Welsh history, but dare i say it, if we were to make Euro 2016, he would have to go down as one of the most successful Welsh managers ever right? :lol: Or would it all be down to Bale? How good is he btw? He will be the best player in the world soon in my opinion. Running out of words to describe him, he literally drops your jaw when you watch him play at times.

Looking forward to the Cyprus game now, its a must win! If we beat them and Belgium beat Bosnia, we have a 6 point lead over them. How good does that sound? :thumbup:

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:22 pm

The man played 5 at the back v Andorra, wing backs or not, Gunter and Taylor are defenders, not attacking wingbacks, which makes me feel he is being a one trick pony here, against Bosnia it was the right and only formation we could play, be he almost cost us qualification against the whipping boys in the very first game by pathetic tactics, at one point in that Andorra game we had 5 defenders on the pitch and 6 midfielders and no striker ...... I just do not have faith in Chris Coleman, I do have faith in Gareth Bales ability and passion to get us through.

I read Roy Keanes autobiography these past couple of days, and he said when a really quality player comes in, you want to impress him, even if you are quality yourself, you want to prove yourself to him and I think the entire Wales team are doing this, each raising their game to say they are a team and not 10 people lucky to be on the same park as him

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:34 pm

[quote="Bellamys barmy army"]The man played 5 at the back v Andorra, wing backs or not, Gunter and Taylor are defenders, not attacking wingbacks, which makes me feel he is being a one trick pony here, against Bosnia it was the right and only formation we could play, be he almost cost us qualification against the whipping boys in the very first game by pathetic tactics, at one point in that Andorra game we had 5 defenders on the pitch and 6 midfielders and no striker ...... I just do not have faith in Chris Coleman, I do have faith in Gareth Bales ability and passion to get us through.

I read Roy Keanes autobiography these past couple of days, and he said when a really quality player comes in, you want to impress him, even if you are quality yourself, you want to prove yourself to him and I think the entire Wales team are doing this, each raising their game to say they are a team and not 10 people lucky to be on the same park as him[/quote

Fair point! However, i personally think 5 at the back is the best formation we can play against any team atm. Although against andorra it was more 3 at the back with 2 deep playing wingers. The fact is, we just dont have any good strikers in the squad. Earnie would do a better job than anyone else in my opinion. Especially with the quality in midfield to provide him the chances.

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:49 pm

Yes you must be.

He is utterly clueless. Playing 5-3-2 with players we have is awful. Should be 4 4 2 or 4 5 1 with Bale in free role. Ben Davies is not a central defender and Taylor and Gunter are full backs not wing backs. With likes of Bale, Ramsey, Davies in our squad we should have a great chance of qualifying. However with Coleman in charge we will not qualify.

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:55 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Yes you must be.

He is utterly clueless. Playing 5-3-2 with players we have is awful. Should be 4 4 2 or 4 5 1 with Bale in free role. Ben Davies is not a central defender and Taylor and Gunter are full backs not wing backs. With likes of Bale, Ramsey, Davies in our squad we should have a great chance of qualifying. However with Coleman in charge we will not qualify.


I disagree with this also, we kept a clean sheet against the top seeded team, when was the last time we managed this, we created 3 glorious chances and we failed to take them simple as that, we should have won that game, I dont mind us setting our stall up against bigger teams and trying to nick a 1-0 but being happy with a point, this will get us into the top 3, but playing 5 defenders against teams that should be playing 5 defenders against us and hoping for the best is criminal, with a fully fit squad like we did v Andorra, or if it happens in the future we have to go out to attack, just look what we did against Iceland or further back under Speed against Norway

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:52 pm

I back him all the way. I think some on here don't because of his Swansea connections.

He's a good manager and we should all get behind him. There was nothing more embarrassing than the 14 and 15 year olds at the back of the Canton chanting Coleman out all game last year. They seem to have faded now we've put in some decent performances.

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:55 pm

CantonJack wrote:I back him all the way. I think some on here don't because of his Swansea connections.

He's a good manager and we should all get behind him. There was nothing more embarrassing than the 14 and 15 year olds at the back of the Canton chanting Coleman out all game last year. They seem to have faded now we've put in some decent performances.

Couldn't careless that he's a jack. The bloke is completely out of his depth. He was a reasonable player but he is useless and we won't qualify with him in charge.

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:05 pm

I may be wrong, the players may love him and will run through brick walls for him .... In my honest opinion though we won in Andorra in spite of the tactics not because of them. The reason we are doing well is because our best players seem to not only want to play for Wales but are very passionate about it. They are a unit and a team, and a team that fights for 90 minutes in the knowledge that they have a world class player that at anytime can nick a goal. That's what I believe

Also this Swansea cardiff thing relating to the Welsh team is pathetic and needs to stop

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:48 pm

Yes

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:07 pm

No :ayatollah:

A lot of Cardiff supporters hate the guy since he's as Swansea as they come, but instead of being honest, give piss-poor excuses such as 'out of his depth'/'clueless'

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:13 pm

He's overly arrogant set in his ways, you can tell he thinks what he knows is all he needs to know.

The game is ever changing the minute you stop working on personal development is the minute you start losing ground on the game this is why many older managers fail and the ones fresh out of kicking a ball can bring a club to the next level.

Coleman is the type to get left behind he will get eaten alive by more aware observant managers

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:21 pm

YES

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:34 pm

Bellamys barmy army wrote:The man played 5 at the back v Andorra, wing backs or not, Gunter and Taylor are defenders, not attacking wingbacks, which makes me feel he is being a one trick pony here, against Bosnia it was the right and only formation we could play, be he almost cost us qualification against the whipping boys in the very first game by pathetic tactics, at one point in that Andorra game we had 5 defenders on the pitch and 6 midfielders and no striker ...... I just do not have faith in Chris Coleman, I do have faith in Gareth Bales ability and passion to get us through.

I read Roy Keanes autobiography these past couple of days, and he said when a really quality player comes in, you want to impress him, even if you are quality yourself, you want to prove yourself to him and I think the entire Wales team are doing this, each raising their game to say they are a team and not 10 people lucky to be on the same park as him

Because we're blessed with great strikers at the moment, aren't we?

Our top striker is out injured at the moment, and Coleman can't really do much about that.

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:53 pm

He's a Jack c**t.

The only reason he's impressed me is by managing to pull Charlotte Jackson from Sky Sports.

Deserves a round of applause for that as he's an ugly tw*t but unimpressed by his management skills (or rather lack of them.)

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:22 pm

Calling 352 formation a defensive formation is where I disagree. Even with 2 "fullbacks", I have played it for many years in saturday and Sunday football and with the right players and tactics it works wonders. As it can very quickly change to 4 at the back if a wingback is out of position, it can change to having 5 if you need defenders but also it does change to 2 wingers when you are on top. Against Andorra Gunter and Taylor were basically wingers, maybe they should have been replaced for wingers earlier but they both were so hard working on Friday I was impressed.

Doesn't matter what Coleman does he will have his critics but so far if you said 4 points from these 2 games I would have taken it. And last qualifiers injuries really did kill us. We really suffer from lack of quality in depth. If we miss Ramsey and bale we will struggle to win any games. Let's not forget vokes was on great goal scoring form last season and he is still to come into this squad.

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:33 pm

Bray wrote:Calling 352 formation a defensive formation is where I disagree. Even with 2 "fullbacks", I have played it for many years in saturday and Sunday football and with the right players and tactics it works wonders. As it can very quickly change to 4 at the back if a wingback is out of position, it can change to having 5 if you need defenders but also it does change to 2 wingers when you are on top. Against Andorra Gunter and Taylor were basically wingers, maybe they should have been replaced for wingers earlier but they both were so hard working on Friday I was impressed.

Doesn't matter what Coleman does he will have his critics but so far if you said 4 points from these 2 games I would have taken it. And last qualifiers injuries really did kill us. We really suffer from lack of quality in depth. If we miss Ramsey and bale we will struggle to win any games. Let's not forget vokes was on great goal scoring form last season and he is still to come into this squad.

Let's hope those three (and everyone else, for that matter) are fit by the time we go to Belgium next month, so we can have a really good go at them! :ayatollah:

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:07 pm

Not saying if I am pro or anti Coleman at this point, but would like to know what peoples thoughts on what should we do if we didn't manage to. Qualify,

Re: Am I The Only One Impressed by Coleman?

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:53 am

I am still unconvinced by him, but he has my backing for now nonetheless. Team selection and tactics were plain wrong against Andorra, shocking pitch means you need good passers, so why play 5 defenders? Bosnia he got fairly spot on with what he had to play with. The most important thing is do the players get him and his philosophy, are they bought into it? are they happy with it and Coleman himself, if so, for now, thats good enough for me.

He gets a terrible time on here and no doubt its because of his Jack connections. Lets put our Jack hang ups aside when Wales play please chaps.

And get down to CCS tonight and support your country.