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Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:29 am

Belgium hammer Andorra 6 nil last night and goal difference could be what decides what happens on who qualifies.
Wales need to start scoring goals as what will happen when the other Countries play Andorra?

Wales also need to beat Cyprus at home.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149207 :thumbright:

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:52 am

I don't think it matters..can you really see us qualifying... I am always the pessimist mind

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:54 am

We need to beat the "smaller" nations of Cyprus, Isreal and Andorra to stand any chance.

I feel we can do that so its going to be what Bosnia and Belgium do against each other. A victory each for both of them and we will need to get a result away to Bosnia. Of course we might get a point of Belgium, did we not draw at their place last time, but I don't think anyone will beat them in this group. Even at this early stage I think it will all come down to our away trip to Bosnia if we are to qualify or not.

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:56 am

kimble wrote:I don't think it matters..can you really see us qualifying... I am always the pessimist mind


Its there for us and its our easiest ever group, but I have No faith in Coleman.

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:58 am

Bakedalasker wrote:We need to beat the "smaller" nations of Cyprus, Isreal and Andorra to stand any chance.

I feel we can do that so its going to be what Bosnia and Belgium do against each other. A victory each for both of them and we will need to get a result away to Bosnia. Of course we might get a point of Belgium, did we not draw at their place last time, but I don't think anyone will beat them in this group. Even at this early stage I think it will all come down to our away trip to Bosnia if we are to qualify or not.


Correct Ian, Wales have to get 9pts at home v them 3 Countries nothing less and at least 7 pts away to the 3 of them.
Then snatch the odd point from Bosnia and Belgium.

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:19 am

Don't forget it was on grass at home hopefully we won't have so many missing next round games :old:

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:43 am

pembroke allan wrote:Don't forget it was on grass at home hopefully we won't have so many missing next round games :old:


True Allan, but Andorra really are 3rd rate, their record says that.
Wales battled and battled last night v Bosnia and that was good to see, now we need goals. :thumbright:

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:18 am

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Don't forget it was on grass at home hopefully we won't have so many missing next round games :old:


True Allan, but Andorra really are 3rd rate, their record says that.
Wales battled and battled last night v Bosnia and that was good to see, now we need goals. :thumbright:


yes def need goals but tbh that is only going to come from andorra at home be same for all the teams, its what others do when play each other thats going to count! so 3 points mon is important but not essential but will go long way to help us qualify 1st or 2nd :thumbup:

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:16 am

The problem that Wales have is no strikers
I don't think I can ever recall a Wales side so thin on the ground in that department
We will have to rely on Bale and Ramsey to get the goals
It's a shame really because other than the strikers we have probably the best team in years
If Bale plays up front that weakens our midfield
All we can do is hope but I fear that if we qualify our lack of an international striker will stop us from progressing further

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:32 am

Forever Blue wrote:Belgium hammer Andorra 6 nil last night and goal difference could be what decides what happens on who qualifies.
Wales need to start scoring goals as what will happen when the other Countries play Albania?

Wales also need to beat Cyprus at home.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149207 :thumbright:


Goal difference does not count . If teams finish on the same number of points then it is the results between
those teams that decide who finishes higher .

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:47 pm

They hammered Andorra in Belgium. When we play in cardiff at the end of the campaign with that crowd from last night, Wales will deliver!!!

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:49 pm

Is it goal difference, or head to head that counts?

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:03 pm

Mr Spoons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Belgium hammer Andorra 6 nil last night and goal difference could be what decides what happens on who qualifies.
Wales need to start scoring goals as what will happen when the other Countries play Albania?

Wales also need to beat Cyprus at home.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149207 :thumbright:


Goal difference does not count . If teams finish on the same number of points then it is the results between
those teams that decide who finishes higher .


I actually didnt know that in the European Championships,Cheers :thumbright: What about who scored the most against each other?

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:24 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Mr Spoons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Belgium hammer Andorra 6 nil last night and goal difference could be what decides what happens on who qualifies.
Wales need to start scoring goals as what will happen when the other Countries play Albania?

Wales also need to beat Cyprus at home.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149207 :thumbright:


Goal difference does not count . If teams finish on the same number of points then it is the results between
those teams that decide who finishes higher .


I actually didnt know that in the European Championships,Cheers :thumbright: What about who scored the most against each other?


If 2 or more teams finish level then its the team with the most points obtained in matches played among said teams.
Then it goes down to goal difference in the same matches played .
If still level then goal difference in all the group matches played .
But if we finish on the same number of points as Andorra then all is already lost.

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:27 pm

Mr Spoons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Mr Spoons wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Belgium hammer Andorra 6 nil last night and goal difference could be what decides what happens on who qualifies.
Wales need to start scoring goals as what will happen when the other Countries play Albania?

Wales also need to beat Cyprus at home.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149207 :thumbright:


Goal difference does not count . If teams finish on the same number of points then it is the results between
those teams that decide who finishes higher .


I actually didnt know that in the European Championships,Cheers :thumbright: What about who scored the most against each other?


If 2 or more teams finish level then its the team with the most points obtained in matches played among said teams.
Then it goes down to goal difference in the same matches played .
If still level then goal difference in all the group matches played .
But if we finish on the same number of points as Andorra then all is already lost.


Thanks :thumbright:

I agree regarding Andorra,but scoring more goals against Cyprus,Bosnia etc could help us :ayatollah:

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:53 pm

Annis goal difference is quite far down the list of two teams are equal. It goes on results between the teams firstly. Our 2 1 vs Andorra will have little effect. If we had failed to win that would have been a pain.

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:58 pm

maccydee wrote:Annis goal difference is quite far down the list of two teams are equal. It goes on results between the teams firstly. Our 2 1 vs Andorra will have little effect. If we had failed to win that would have been a pain.


Neil, so its points points we need, some sneaky last minute goals to win and draw games :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:12 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Annis goal difference is quite far down the list of two teams are equal. It goes on results between the teams firstly. Our 2 1 vs Andorra will have little effect. If we had failed to win that would have been a pain.


Neil, so its points points we need, some sneaky last minute goals to win and draw games :thumbright: :thumbright:


Definitely. Could have done with that Bale shot going in last minute.

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:13 pm

maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Annis goal difference is quite far down the list of two teams are equal. It goes on results between the teams firstly. Our 2 1 vs Andorra will have little effect. If we had failed to win that would have been a pain.


Neil, so its points points we need, some sneaky last minute goals to win and draw games :thumbright: :thumbright:


Definitely. Could have done with that Bale shot going in last minute.


Neil, Now that really would of helped/changed things.

3pts v Cyprus :thumbright:

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:24 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Belgium hammer Andorra 6 nil last night and goal difference could be what decides what happens on who qualifies.
Wales need to start scoring goals as what will happen when the other Countries play Albania?

Wales also need to beat Cyprus at home.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149207 :thumbright:

I didn't realise that Albania were in our group :lol:

Re: Worrying though?

Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:29 pm

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Belgium hammer Andorra 6 nil last night and goal difference could be what decides what happens on who qualifies.
Wales need to start scoring goals as what will happen when the other Countries play Albania?

Wales also need to beat Cyprus at home.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=149207 :thumbright:

I didn't realise that Albania were in our group :lol:



Oops :lol: :lol:

Re: Worrying though?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:37 am

Thanks Spoons! I didn't realise the rules for qualification. It would still be nice to hammer Andorra mind. :lol:

Re: Worrying though?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:35 am

Where does all this qualification expectancy come from? We have Bale and Ramsey - that's it and even then injury is denying us. The rest are just average at best.
I don't think goal difference is going to concern us.

Re: Worrying though?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:46 am

Carpe Diem wrote:Where does all this qualification expectancy come from? We have Bale and Ramsey - that's it and even then injury is denying us. The rest are just average at best.
I don't think goal difference is going to concern us.


Your prob right, we are all getting carried away, but you have to admit, its a weak group and its our best chance, we have had for many a year.

Re: Worrying though?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:40 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Where does all this qualification expectancy come from? We have Bale and Ramsey - that's it and even then injury is denying us. The rest are just average at best.
I don't think goal difference is going to concern us.


Your prob right, we are all getting carried away, but you have to admit, its a weak group and its our best chance, we have had for many a year.


Fair point, but following Cardiff City and Wales for years means you just expect disappointment!

Re: Worrying though?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:21 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Where does all this qualification expectancy come from? We have Bale and Ramsey - that's it and even then injury is denying us. The rest are just average at best.
I don't think goal difference is going to concern us.


Your prob right, we are all getting carried away, but you have to admit, its a weak group and its our best chance, we have had for many a year.


Fair point, but following Cardiff City and Wales for years means you just expect disappointment!

:lol:

We certainly do.

Re: Worrying though?

Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:33 pm

Annis I can't see many teams scoring a lot of goals at Andorra away. We need to be putting atleast 4 on them at home though!

Re: Worrying though?

Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:39 pm

DanielHopkins18 wrote:Annis I can't see many teams scoring a lot of goals at Andorra away. We need to be putting atleast 4 on them at home though!


Def Daniel, We need to win tonight as well :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: Worrying though?

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:20 am

Forever Blue wrote:
DanielHopkins18 wrote:Annis I can't see many teams scoring a lot of goals at Andorra away. We need to be putting atleast 4 on them at home though!


Def Daniel, We need to win tonight as well :thumbright: :ayatollah:


Not so def Daniel lol .

Re: Worrying though?

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:20 am

Forever Blue wrote:
DanielHopkins18 wrote:Annis I can't see many teams scoring a lot of goals at Andorra away. We need to be putting atleast 4 on them at home though!


Def Daniel, We need to win tonight as well :thumbright: :ayatollah:


Not so def Daniel lol .