UKIP - ARE WE SEEING A TURN IN BRITISH POLITICS?

I'm voting UKIP because I've had enough of the other 3 parties.


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I watched the results come in last night and was quite amazed at what I saw after I analysed the figures. The Clacton seat although the UKIPs first win was no surprise. A reasonable turnout with a defected ex conservative standing in his old constituency history has shown the local populi will return him. It was a reasonable turnout,51%, so no big surprise. However the other seat was an astonishing result.

Haywood and Middleton is a stronghold for Labour. Last night they nearly lost the seat but hung on by a slim majority. They went from a majority of 12,000 to 600 but actually increased their vote share by 1%. The UKIP gained from the collapse of the Conservative and Liberal votes but obviously picked up some of the new votes. The outstanding fact here though is the turnout.

Only 36% turn out for the Haywood and Middleton by election. Apathy within the interest of politics is rife due to the other three parties not appealing to most. People have given up but I just wonder now if this has started a rival. Will people now get of their backside and vote as there is a new boy in town?

So what is everyones opinions here? Will a rival in interest happen and we will see more people vote? If that happens how do you think they will vote? Will people who have not voted in ages vote Conservative/Labour/Liberal to prevent the UKIP getting in? Will they vote UKIP because they see hope in a new direction or whatever the Farage gang bring? Whatever happens it is going to be an election like none we have ever seen before.

A massive turn Ian, People are fed up of the main parties, who never deliver what they promise.

Many of the other parties (especially the lefties) try to discredit UKIP by screaming racists at them.
But as UKIP seem to be saying what the silent majority think, the other parties are alienating themselves even more.
By abusing and name calling, more and more people could turn to UKIP to represent them.

It will split the Tory vote, but will also hit Labour in their taken for granted areas as well.
Remember a lot of the BNP vote was in Labour strongholds - not the Tory ones.

Up to a point but probably come general election status quo will remain, as ukip policies are very thin after imagration! At moment people agree with their view on this, but at election far more policies need addressing for which they don't have sound policy on. But will make ground that is sure and hopefully lab/cons will wake up to threat and sort out migrant's. Free loading in UK.

I think the vote went his way because he was the initial candidate - they voted for the candidate that worked for them and not the party. I don't know if you can 100% attribute it to a turn in politics, however it is certainly true that nationalism is on the rise and, combined with the disengagement with the three main parties, it means that parties like UKIP will do better in the coming election.

Equally it means other parties will do better too, like the Greens, so I guess it'll be a real mixed bag of MPs next time around.

A massive turn Ian, People are fed up of the main parties, who never deliver what they promise.

Totally agree, Annis

The main parties have lost their focus and are treating the people of the UK with disdain because they honestly believe the chances of one or t'other of them not being in office is ludicrous!

They are more than happy to 'exchange the seat of power' periodically, as it gives them a chance to recuperate their policies afar messing it up previously in the safe knowledge they can say "Not me Guv, it was them what was just in power what did it!"

So transparent and so "spit in the face" of the people they purpose to represent!

Career politicians who simply don't know either truth or reality of the UK today!

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

I'm voting UKIP because I've had enough of the other 3 parties.

I watched the results come in last night and was quite amazed at what I saw after I analysed the figures. The Clacton seat although the UKIPs first win was no surprise. A reasonable turnout with a defected ex conservative standing in his old constituency history has shown the local populi will return him. It was a reasonable turnout,51%, so no big surprise. However the other seat was an astonishing result.

Haywood and Middleton is a stronghold for Labour. Last night they nearly lost the seat but hung on by a slim majority. They went from a majority of 12,000 to 600 but actually increased their vote share by 1%. The UKIP gained from the collapse of the Conservative and Liberal votes but obviously picked up some of the new votes. The outstanding fact here though is the turnout.

Only 36% turn out for the Haywood and Middleton by election. Apathy within the interest of politics is rife due to the other three parties not appealing to most. People have given up but I just wonder now if this has started a rival. Will people now get of their backside and vote as there is a new boy in town?

So what is everyones opinions here? Will a rival in interest happen and we will see more people vote? If that happens how do you think they will vote? Will people who have not voted in ages vote Conservative/Labour/Liberal to prevent the UKIP getting in? Will they vote UKIP because they see hope in a new direction or whatever the Farage gang bring? Whatever happens it is going to be an election like none we have ever seen before.

Reminds me of the clamour in the USA for a black president Ian where everyone got carried along with wanting something different. Talking to people in the states last month there's not a lot of nice things said about Obama. I suppose I'm saying it might be the novelty factor that will have a shelf life.

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Cheerio then UKIP all the way

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

Elliot none of the others have in the past, so many will give UKIP a chance.

Many of the other parties (especially the lefties) try to discredit UKIP by screaming racists at them.
But as UKIP seem to be saying what the silent majority think, the other parties are alienating themselves even more.
By abusing and name calling, more and more people could turn to UKIP to represent them.

It will split the Tory vote, but will also hit Labour in their taken for granted areas as well.
Remember a lot of the BNP vote was in Labour strongholds - not the Tory ones.

Unfortunately any one who dares to say anything about immigration gets acused of being a racist. My stand has always been if someone comes to the UK, works and pays their taxes etc and abides by our way of life they are fine with me. I also do not agree with European rulings that alow EU nationals into the UK and then after a qualifying period they are allowed to claim Child Benefit and send it back home to their families. Im afraid there are too many softies in this country who gloryfy the wonderful "multicultural" ethos which has resulted in us subsidising thousands of dossers who know the UK is a soft touch. Hence the fact that there is a ever growing cue waiting at Calais to get into the country. Recently polititions have blamed France and Italy for allowing migrants to pass through their borders and head to the UK when they should be looking at what a "soft touch" we are in this country.

I'm voting UKIP because I've had enough of the other 3 parties.

I watched the results come in last night and was quite amazed at what I saw after I analysed the figures. The Clacton seat although the UKIPs first win was no surprise. A reasonable turnout with a defected ex conservative standing in his old constituency history has shown the local populi will return him. It was a reasonable turnout,51%, so no big surprise. However the other seat was an astonishing result.

Haywood and Middleton is a stronghold for Labour. Last night they nearly lost the seat but hung on by a slim majority. They went from a majority of 12,000 to 600 but actually increased their vote share by 1%. The UKIP gained from the collapse of the Conservative and Liberal votes but obviously picked up some of the new votes. The outstanding fact here though is the turnout.

Only 36% turn out for the Haywood and Middleton by election. Apathy within the interest of politics is rife due to the other three parties not appealing to most. People have given up but I just wonder now if this has started a rival. Will people now get of their backside and vote as there is a new boy in town?

So what is everyones opinions here? Will a rival in interest happen and we will see more people vote? If that happens how do you think they will vote? Will people who have not voted in ages vote Conservative/Labour/Liberal to prevent the UKIP getting in? Will they vote UKIP because they see hope in a new direction or whatever the Farage gang bring? Whatever happens it is going to be an election like none we have ever seen before.

Reminds me of the clamour in the USA for a black president Ian where everyone got carried along with wanting something different. Talking to people in the states last month there's not a lot of nice things said about Obama. I suppose I'm saying it might be the novelty factor that will have a shelf life.

Obamas been the biggest political let down ever IMO and the weakest President in my lifetime.

As long as they are seen as a threat by the Tories and Labour they have done a great job.

I will be voting UKIP, even it all goes very very wrong, we need a radical change to bring back proper political parties with clear stances, a Labour party that backs a labour man, i never thought i would vote anything other than Labour, but they dont support the working man, and i voted UKIP last time round.

Up to a point but probably come general election status quo will remain, as ukip policies are very thin after imagration! At moment people agree with their view on this, but at election far more policies need addressing for which they don't have sound policy on. But will make ground that is sure and hopefully lab/cons will wake up to threat and sort out migrant's. Free loading in UK.

They have plenty of policies:-

http://www.ukip.org/issues

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Where would you go and why?

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Where would you go and why?

Belgium. I've got family out there and I've always had an affiliation with the country ever since. I haven't got any options yet cause I honestly don't think those nutjobs will get in power for another 20years.

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Where would you go and why?

Belgium. I've got family out there and I've always had an affiliation with the country ever since. I haven't got any options yet cause I honestly don't think those nutjobs will get in power for another 20years.

Now we know why you dislike UKIP, it's because Nigel Farage criticised Herman Van Rompuy.

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Where would you go and why?

Belgium. I've got family out there and I've always had an affiliation with the country ever since. I haven't got any options yet cause I honestly don't think those nutjobs will get in power for another 20years.

Now we know why you dislike UKIP, it's because Nigel Farage criticised Herman Van Rompuy.

Erm not exactly, I just feel UKIP would bring this country back to the 50s and ruin the country. If they ever come into power I hope they prove me wrong as obviously, I want the best for my country.

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Where would you go and why?

Belgium. I've got family out there and I've always had an affiliation with the country ever since. I haven't got any options yet cause I honestly don't think those nutjobs will get in power for another 20years.

Now we know why you dislike UKIP, it's because Nigel Farage criticised Herman Van Rompuy.

Erm not exactly, I just feel UKIP would bring this country back to the 50s and ruin the country. If they ever come into power I hope they prove me wrong as obviously, I want the best for my country.

You do realise the 50's was one the best decades to live in Britain now if you want a shit decade look no further than the 1930's.

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Where would you go and why?

Belgium. I've got family out there and I've always had an affiliation with the country ever since. I haven't got any options yet cause I honestly don't think those nutjobs will get in power for another 20years.

Now we know why you dislike UKIP, it's because Nigel Farage criticised Herman Van Rompuy.

Erm not exactly, I just feel UKIP would bring this country back to the 50s and ruin the country. If they ever come into power I hope they prove me wrong as obviously, I want the best for my country.

You do realise the 50's was one the best decades to live in Britain now if you want a shit decade look no further than the 1930's.

all UKIP will achieve is to potentially force the big 2 parties to try to come to some sort of compromise with the EU on the free movement of workers. they will have an influence on the next general election, and that in itself, is a big achievement given the anti UKIP stream from the BBC and other news outlets.

the working class and those on minimum wage are crushed by employers being able to keep wages rock bottom, by having free access to millions from poor eastern european countries, so it is a important aspect which the parties will have to address. its about time the big parties confronted these issues head on, instead of ignoring it as they have been for the past 10 years.

UKIP are right-wing Thatcherites who have absolutely no solutions to the problems facing people. They play on fears of immigrants just like the BMP did. The real causes, of a rampant capitalism which creates more and more poverty are never addressed.

To be perfectly honest I am very frightened of what is happening with Ukip. It is very similar to what happened in Germany when the National Socialists under Hitler started to win seats. Fascists won't do silly marches into town wearing silly uniforms they start by winning over the hearts of the population through fear and slowly gain power. Excactly what Ukip are doing now.

Remember Hitler was elected democratically in Germany and was very popular. The same thing is happening in England.
Please God let Wales be different!

Who is to say ukip won't deliver on their promises?

The question may well be "Can they do any worse than two parties (two and a half IF you include the Limp/Dem Party) already out there?"

Yes they can! Put it this way, if ukip ever came into power, I'd consider leaving this country. And no that's not "boycotting", it's just I feel I'd be better of out of the country ran by those nut jobs. And believe me I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Good lad.Hopefully A lot more people who only support democracy when it goes their way will also leave.These islands are sinking under the weight of the people already here.Go into the heath hospital A and E any day or night and you will see elderly or infirm migrants and Immirants waiting to be treated.They have a right to this service of course.But why were they allowed into the country at all at that age or with that infirmity.What economic good are they to Britain.Most have been here paying their taxes for many years.Good luck to those. But many were let in by the last Labour party Government'under their open door policy.We have to have a points system.And stop illegal immigration.That's why people are voting Ukip.They will sort it out.

To be perfectly honest I am very frightened of what is happening with Ukip. It is very similar to what happened in Germany when the National Socialists under Hitler started to win seats. Fascists won't do silly marches into town wearing silly uniforms they start by winning over the hearts of the population through fear and slowly gain power. Excactly what Ukip are doing now.

Remember Hitler was elected democratically in Germany and was very popular. The same thing is happening in England.
Please God let Wales be different!

they've called to switch to a points based immigration system, like the one australia operate, where applications are graded and those with skills we need get in easier than an unskilled person.

you are living in a fantasy world if you think allowing hundreds of thousands of unskilled migrants doesn't affect the man on the street trying to earn an honest living.

its people like you equating anti open door immigration with nazism and facism that has caused the main political parties to be too scared to touch the issue, thankfully this is changing with both major parties acknowledging that something needs to be done

To be perfectly honest I am very frightened of what is happening with Ukip. It is very similar to what happened in Germany when the National Socialists under Hitler started to win seats. Fascists won't do silly marches into town wearing silly uniforms they start by winning over the hearts of the population through fear and slowly gain power. Excactly what Ukip are doing now.

Remember Hitler was elected democratically in Germany and was very popular. The same thing is happening in England.
Please God let Wales be different!

they've called to switch to a points based immigration system, like the one australia operate, where applications are graded and those with skills we need get in easier than an unskilled person.

you are living in a fantasy world if you think allowing hundreds of thousands of unskilled migrants doesn't affect the man on the street trying to earn an honest living.

its people like you equating anti open door immigration with nazism and facism that has caused the main political parties to be too scared to touch the issue, thankfully this is changing with both major parties acknowledging that something needs to be done

SwampCCFC I am with you on this one.

To get into the USA or Australia you have to have the skills they require and need.

It would be a pitty if the politics of fear and blame took control.

Take Malala Yousafzai for example, UKIP policies would have stopped Her recurring the treatment she did. Very sad.

UKIP ARE DEF GOING TO BECOME THE 3RD PARTY OF POLITICS THE WAY THE PUBLIC ARE VOTING NOW.