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' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:35 pm

" Time to be positive. "

Pullis faced a hell of a job when he took over at Palace. They were a mess and he had to try and make the worst squad in the premiership (by a mile IMO) competitive and pick up enough points to keep them up.

All he did was organise the defence, and get the rest to do there jobs and work their Bollox off and close the space and build some confidence. He did it easily in the end.

Slade has one of the best squads in the League if not the best. He has to do basically the same, but has many quality players at his disposal to do it. At the moment we have no continuity, and no one is really sure yet who the best players are and what formation will suit is best. It is a difficult job, but with a bit of commen sense and organisation, it should be possible to get us back up the table into the top six and beyond.

Good luck Slade we see all looking to see how you go about it, and what your starting eleven will be ??

Re: Slades job, how tough is it really ????

Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:41 pm

Common sense, sorry for the typos, should read before I post.....

Re: Slades job, how tough is it really ????

Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:43 pm

I have always been a fan of 4-4-2 and Slade's previous suggests that's the way he will go, but like Abbandanatto wrote earlier, I don't think we have found the correct two players for centre midfield to play effectively as a 4-4-2.

That is why I felt earlier this season that 4-5-1 suits our squad better until the midfield area is sorted.

I think Slade has to build the confidence of the players he chooses as his nucleus to work with, shift the players out who do not fit in with his plans and even though we are just a few points off the play offs, we have to start winning a run of games and it will take longer than perhaps some think to break into the top six.

If we do get into the top six it could be 25+ games played before it happens.

I hope that Slade is the disciplinarian we believe he is and is tactically astute to deliver results and change the course of a game.

Good luck Russell Slade.

Re: Slades job, how tough is it really ????

Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:51 pm

carlccfc wrote:I have always been a fan of 4-4-2 and Slade's previous suggests that's the way he will go, but like Abbandanatto wrote earlier, I don't think we have found the correct two players for centre midfield to play effectively as a 4-4-2.

That is why I felt earlier this season that 4-5-1 suits our squad better until the midfield area is sorted.

I think Slade has to build the confidence of the players he chooses as his nucleus to work with, shift the players out who do not fit in with his plans and even though we are just a few points off the play offs, we have to start winning a run of games and it will take longer than perhaps some think to break into the top six.

If we do get into the top six it could be 25+ games played before it happens.

I hope that Slade is the disciplinarian we believe he is and is tactically astute to deliver results and change the course of a game.

Good luck Russell Slade.


With 5 recognisable big name strikers at the club for this season,that has been the strangest part of the tactics, we only played 1 up front. :ayatollah:

Re: Slades job, how tough is it really ????

Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:57 pm

ThomasC wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I have always been a fan of 4-4-2 and Slade's previous suggests that's the way he will go, but like Abbandanatto wrote earlier, I don't think we have found the correct two players for centre midfield to play effectively as a 4-4-2.

That is why I felt earlier this season that 4-5-1 suits our squad better until the midfield area is sorted.

I think Slade has to build the confidence of the players he chooses as his nucleus to work with, shift the players out who do not fit in with his plans and even though we are just a few points off the play offs, we have to start winning a run of games and it will take longer than perhaps some think to break into the top six.

If we do get into the top six it could be 25+ games played before it happens.

I hope that Slade is the disciplinarian we believe he is and is tactically astute to deliver results and change the course of a game.

Good luck Russell Slade.


With 5 recognisable big name strikers at the club for this season,that has been the strangest part of the tactics, we only played 1 up front. :ayatollah:



Everyone says it's because the midfield couldn't cope, but if we don't threaten teams they can push their midfield further forward and give us problems. From what Slade is saying his best form of defence is attack, so if he can sort and organise the back four, with Turner back, and a protective defender infront maybe our 442 will give other teams something to worry about??

As always interesting times ahead :ayatollah:

Re: Slades job, how tough is it really ????

Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:12 pm

Bluebina wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I have always been a fan of 4-4-2 and Slade's previous suggests that's the way he will go, but like Abbandanatto wrote earlier, I don't think we have found the correct two players for centre midfield to play effectively as a 4-4-2.

That is why I felt earlier this season that 4-5-1 suits our squad better until the midfield area is sorted.

I think Slade has to build the confidence of the players he chooses as his nucleus to work with, shift the players out who do not fit in with his plans and even though we are just a few points off the play offs, we have to start winning a run of games and it will take longer than perhaps some think to break into the top six.

If we do get into the top six it could be 25+ games played before it happens.

I hope that Slade is the disciplinarian we believe he is and is tactically astute to deliver results and change the course of a game.

Good luck Russell Slade.


With 5 recognisable big name strikers at the club for this season,that has been the strangest part of the tactics, we only played 1 up front. :ayatollah:



Everyone says it's because the midfield couldn't cope, but if we don't threaten teams they can push their midfield further forward and give us problems. From what Slade is saying his best form of defence is attack, so if he can sort and organise the back four, with Turner back, and a protective defender infront maybe our 442 will give other teams something to worry about??

As always interesting times ahead :ayatollah:



I really think it's a case of not having the right balance as a team rather than players for 4-4-2 , we've got loads of players that individually are decent and have put a shift in elsewhere in various formations Ole pretty much abused the player mindset and attitude policy malky implied.

In consequence of this we have a really poor team connection, the fitness is the worst its been in years theirs no loyalty or fight in the players and even our own fans don't know their players.

Under Malky we knew most of our players were committed and worked extremely hard for the manager and for the shirt,
You take that out of a football club and all your left with is a shell.
We can only guess what is going through the players minds and who has confidence who couldn't give a toss and who has a really bad attitude

Thats the problem I see - we need a huge shake up,
Slade will impact positively I'm not sure he can change the world though

Re: Slades job, how tough is it really ????

Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:14 pm

Bluebina wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I have always been a fan of 4-4-2 and Slade's previous suggests that's the way he will go, but like Abbandanatto wrote earlier, I don't think we have found the correct two players for centre midfield to play effectively as a 4-4-2.

That is why I felt earlier this season that 4-5-1 suits our squad better until the midfield area is sorted.

I think Slade has to build the confidence of the players he chooses as his nucleus to work with, shift the players out who do not fit in with his plans and even though we are just a few points off the play offs, we have to start winning a run of games and it will take longer than perhaps some think to break into the top six.

If we do get into the top six it could be 25+ games played before it happens.

I hope that Slade is the disciplinarian we believe he is and is tactically astute to deliver results and change the course of a game.

Good luck Russell Slade.


With 5 recognisable big name strikers at the club for this season,that has been the strangest part of the tactics, we only played 1 up front. :ayatollah:



Everyone says it's because the midfield couldn't cope, but if we don't threaten teams they can push their midfield further forward and give us problems. From what Slade is saying his best form of defence is attack, so if he can sort and organise the back four, with Turner back, and a protective defender infront maybe our 442 will give other teams something to worry about??

As always interesting times ahead :ayatollah:



Totally agree 4-4-2 is the way to go. The twin pronged attack can split the opposing back 4 and push the defence and midfield back. Counters can be a problem which is why as you said the back 4 need to be calm under pressure.
The comparison with Palace is a fair one. Slade has more than enough resources and will have money in January, especially if surplus players are shed.

2 very important weeks coming up. :bluescarf:

Re: ' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:56 pm

On what basis is this one of, if not the, best squads in the league? Fantasy.

Re: ' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:09 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:On what basis is this one of, if not the, best squads in the league? Fantasy.



On the basis of general opinion, if you think differnt no problem , everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

We were favourites to win the League, that was not because the bookies thought we had a very weak squad, or because of OGS's tactical genius.

Re: ' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:19 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:On what basis is this one of, if not the, best squads in the league? Fantasy.



On the basis of general opinion, if you think differnt no problem , everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

We were favourites to win the League, that was not because the bookies thought we had a very weak squad, or because of OGS's tactical genius.


We were a relegated PL team spending money, the bookies reflected this. I've read this general opinion, the same way I've read Maynard isn't the same since his injury, Jones is lazy, macheda useless, Whitts past it, Morrison rubbish, Cala a liability, John no left back, Daehli too lightweight, Kim gone backwards, adeyemi awful, gunnarsson wasteful etc etc. We have the likes of burgtaller, Eikrem and guerra untested at this level, plus the farce of dikgacoi.

Yet these same players are part of the best squad in the league?

Re: ' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:15 am

Would a
3
5
2
Work?

Manga Connelly
Oshilaja

Brayford Fabio

Pilkington. Dikki/whitts Morrison

Le fondre. Jones

Re: ' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:19 am

Carpe Diem wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:On what basis is this one of, if not the, best squads in the league? Fantasy.



On the basis of general opinion, if you think differnt no problem , everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

We were favourites to win the League, that was not because the bookies thought we had a very weak squad, or because of OGS's tactical genius.


We were a relegated PL team spending money, the bookies reflected this. I've read this general opinion, the same way I've read Maynard isn't the same since his injury, Jones is lazy, macheda useless, Whitts past it, Morrison rubbish, Cala a liability, John no left back, Daehli too lightweight, Kim gone backwards, adeyemi awful, gunnarsson wasteful etc etc. We have the likes of burgtaller, Eikrem and guerra untested at this level, plus the farce of dikgacoi.

Yet these same players are part of the best squad in the league?


Good answer.
I've never thought our squad was as good as people make out.
I mean I even read someone on here say - keep Burgstallar, he's awesome! Well who knows we've never given him a chance.

Re: ' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:21 pm

What a load of Tosh (Cameron, for those old enough to remember John's son). We have loads of players capable of performing really well at this level. We need a team spirit and organisation and to play 4-5-1 to make the most out of Ravel.

Re: ' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:21 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:On what basis is this one of, if not the, best squads in the league? Fantasy.



On the basis of general opinion, if you think differnt no problem , everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

We were favourites to win the League, that was not because the bookies thought we had a very weak squad, or because of OGS's tactical genius.


We were a relegated PL team spending money, the bookies reflected this. I've read this general opinion, the same way I've read Maynard isn't the same since his injury, Jones is lazy, macheda useless, Whitts past it, Morrison rubbish, Cala a liability, John no left back, Daehli too lightweight, Kim gone backwards, adeyemi awful, gunnarsson wasteful etc etc. We have the likes of burgtaller, Eikrem and guerra untested at this level, plus the farce of dikgacoi.

Yet these same players are part of the best squad in the league?


Most you mention there are reserves, and most of the coments are just messageboard fans like me and you letting off steam, but I do agree that Morrison has been rubbish so far.

I believe we do have one of the best squads in the League, but they are lacking in confidence and organisation, it will be really interesting to see if Slade is up to it ????

Re: ' Slades job, how tough is it really ???? '

Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:35 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:On what basis is this one of, if not the, best squads in the league? Fantasy.



On the basis of general opinion, if you think differnt no problem , everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

We were favourites to win the League, that was not because the bookies thought we had a very weak squad, or because of OGS's tactical genius.


We were a relegated PL team spending money, the bookies reflected this. I've read this general opinion, the same way I've read Maynard isn't the same since his injury, Jones is lazy, macheda useless, Whitts past it, Morrison rubbish, Cala a liability, John no left back, Daehli too lightweight, Kim gone backwards, adeyemi awful, gunnarsson wasteful etc etc. We have the likes of burgtaller, Eikrem and guerra untested at this level, plus the farce of dikgacoi.

Yet these same players are part of the best squad in the league?


Most you mention there are reserves, and most of the coments are just messageboard fans like me and you letting off steam, but I do agree that Morrison has been rubbish so far.

I believe we do have one of the best squads in the League, but they are lacking in confidence and organisation, it will be really interesting to see if Slade is up to it ????


There's the hard core of our team mentioned too, and I could have continued, but wasn't the point about the squad?
Having said that I hope the talent is there and Slade can bring out the full potential. Personally I think we will be found short on first team, squad strength and Slade himself but I'll have no problem coming on here admitting I was wrong. I really hope I am.