who is the biggest idiot?

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Disagree with both, a. Vincent tan isn't running the show Dalman & Choo are, b. The colour of the kit has got nothing to do with how we perform on the pitch!

Disagree with both, a. Vincent tan isn't running the show Dalman & Choo are, b. The colour of the kit has got nothing to do with how we perform on the pitch!

So the man who selected them is to blame....

Disagree with both, a. Vincent tan isn't running the show Dalman & Choo are, b. The colour of the kit has got nothing to do with how we perform on the pitch!

So the man who selected them is to blame....

Tan is at fault for selecting Dalman & Choo, but cannot be blamed for the performance on the field, he doesn't pick the team! Anyway more importantly are you stalking me?

The problem is now, I read Dalman is a shareholder and also a director of one of tans businesses so he has him by the balls!

The red sell out sheep, Tan just put it out there as it's his favourite colour, he doesn't make fans buy the kits and buy into Tans fantasy,s

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happ5en ?

Disagree with both, a. Vincent tan isn't running the show Dalman & Choo are, b. The colour of the kit has got nothing to do with how we perform on the pitch!

Disagree with this!!!

A) Tan is obviously a megalomaniac fool with a personal agenda. No love for Cardiff at all
B) All of us for passively accepting him. We are bigger fools than him but probably not so rich

If anyone has never read it, I suggest you do.....Faust by Goethe....it will explain what we have let ourselves in for!

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happ5en ?

Disagree with both, a. Vincent tan isn't running the show Dalman & Choo are, b. The colour of the kit has got nothing to do with how we perform on the pitch!

Disagree with this!!!

A) Tan is obviously a megalomaniac fool with a personal agenda. No love for Cardiff at all
B) All of us for passively accepting him. We are bigger fools than him but probably not so rich

If anyone has never read it, I suggest you do.....Faust by Goethe....it will explain what we have let ourselves in for!

I'm not against tan, the rebrand I don't like but I will always support city what ever colour we play in, nobody will ever know where we would be without his money we can only guess/assume, for me the money has been a good thing.

The red sell out sheep, Tan just put it out there as it's his favourite colour, he doesn't make fans buy the kits and buy into Tans fantasy,s

i guess you don't attend games then,wouldn't want people to think your a red sell out sheep would you

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Do you mean the Red brigade who threatened anyone who stayed Blue or tried to stick up for their Blue?

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Do you mean the Red brigade who threatened anyone who stayed Blue or tried to stick up for their Blue?

no he means every one that lines the mans pockets with money

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Do you mean the Red brigade who threatened anyone who stayed Blue or tried to stick up for their Blue?

Very clear now. He was hoping to drum up business for his new business.

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Do you mean the Red brigade who threatened anyone who stayed Blue or tried to stick up for their Blue?

Very clear now. He was hoping to drum up business for his new business.

Exactly Ian and now he says he was always Blue anyway and was never seen at a City game before the Hammam days.

This thread alone just goes to show how immature out fan base is, maybe you don't like tan for what ever reason, maybe you don't like the red, maybe you just don't like anything... But please don't dig, hack and snipe away at the fan base we have left!!!

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Its a bit like saying who was guilty, Hitler or the German Nation.

The fact of the matter is, it was allowed to happen, & happen it did. Interesting that during the first year of the rebrand of our promotion year,,there wasn't any protests (of note) of this.

I didn't want the re brand personal, /what i wanted was stability & success at my beloved Club, Cardiff City FC.

So yes, I am a dick head. I paid my money,,,reluctantly,,,but i did!

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Do you mean the Red brigade who threatened anyone who stayed Blue or tried to stick up for their Blue?

Very clear now. He was hoping to drum up business for his new business.

Exactly Ian and now he says he was always Blue anyway and was never seen at a City game before the Hammam days.

Yes he was seen before the sams days at home and away games 100%, why say he wasn't

Interesting opinions ( from both sides) boys - much appreciated. Just trying to gauge the opinions of you all
In terms of the reds I mentioned, I was referring to those that actively support it by buying red merchandise and supporting the notion of the rebrand. I understand that any person attending the CCS is in someway supporting VT but that's unavoidable I guess unless people boycott games. But for the purpose of this thread I was referring to those strange ones that walk around in the red shirts/ scarves etc.

Thanks again chaps!

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Do you mean the Red brigade who threatened anyone who stayed Blue or tried to stick up for their Blue?

Very clear now. He was hoping to drum up business for his new business.

Exactly Ian and now he says he was always Blue anyway and was never seen at a City game before the Hammam days.

Yes he was seen before the sams days at home and away games 100%, why say he wasn't

Well I followed City in Division 4 for 9 years home and away and and never missed a single game and I personally never saw him or anyone I use to go around with did, so I am not lying. By the way I checked that name out u said you were and No one has ever heard of you strange?

Say Hello next game

This thread alone just goes to show how immature out fan base is, maybe you don't like tan for what ever reason, maybe you don't like the red, maybe you just don't like anything... But please don't dig, hack and snipe away at the fan base we have left!!!

Don't you do that regularly?

Arrow, just reading many of your previous posts, it seems you just want to bring this Forum down and slate everyone.

I think your on the wrong Forum

This thread alone just goes to show how immature out fan base is, maybe you don't like tan for what ever reason, maybe you don't like the red, maybe you just don't like anything... But please don't dig, hack and snipe away at the fan base we have left!!!

Don't you do that regularly?

No I don't maybe you should stop following my every move.. Be a man, have a drink with me let's get our different views out! I'm not a keyboard warrior are you?

What's annoys me is its chaos now because of a few bad results.

It's annoying the rebrand seems to be a lot more controversial when we aren't doing so well.

In simple terms I inviting you for a friendly pint ( which I will pay for) if you choose not to except please get off my my back!

Vincent Tan for the creating this mess with his manic chaos OR the dick heads that passively allowed the red to happen ?

Do you mean the Red brigade who threatened anyone who stayed Blue or tried to stick up for their Blue?

Very clear now. He was hoping to drum up business for his new business.

Exactly Ian and now he says he was always Blue anyway and was never seen at a City game before the Hammam days.

Hang on when I was saying this just a few months ago I was shot down on here

What new business? What's have I missed now.

The problem is now, I read Dalman is a shareholder and also a director of one of tans businesses so he has him by the balls!

Can you please explain how that works?

The problem is now, I read Dalman is a shareholder and also a director of one of tans businesses so he has him by the balls!

Can you please explain how that works?

Dalman is the chief executive / chairman what he says goes! Tan isn't even in the country so he cannot possibly be making the decisions

Disagree with both, a. Vincent tan isn't running the show Dalman & Choo are, b. The colour of the kit has got nothing to do with how we perform on the pitch!

So the man who selected them is to blame....