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carlccfc wrote:I wrote this piece yesterday afternoon for the Echo ahead of the shocking performance against Blackpool.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ns-7881198![]()
I have said Slade would not have been my choice of manager but what he can offer is 19 years experience of managing.
What I will agree with Tan about is what he said in a recent television interview about giving Slade a chance.
The choice could have been easy for Tan.
He could have tried to bring in a big name but I am not sure if that would have been the right direction to go in.
Popular former players who are household names don’t always work, to which Solskjaer was testament.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ns-7881198
Time will tell as always, but I really do hope that Slade can achieve big things and that he gets the backing of the fans from the start.
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thatsthewaywelikeit wrote:carlccfc wrote:I wrote this piece yesterday afternoon for the Echo ahead of the shocking performance against Blackpool.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ns-7881198![]()
I have said Slade would not have been my choice of manager but what he can offer is 19 years experience of managing.
What I will agree with Tan about is what he said in a recent television interview about giving Slade a chance.
The choice could have been easy for Tan.
He could have tried to bring in a big name but I am not sure if that would have been the right direction to go in.
Popular former players who are household names don’t always work, to which Solskjaer was testament.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ns-7881198
Time will tell as always, but I really do hope that Slade can achieve big things and that he gets the backing of the fans from the start.
Bang on CarlHe needs to take these players abroad during the international break & get their fitness levels up. Some team bonding is needed & try and cut the players he doesn't want. Too many players in the squad for my liking. Ill back Slade 100% but feel that fans wont give him much time if he doesn't start well. Myself included probably....
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Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:35 am
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Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:01 am
castleblue wrote:I think the real question here is WILL VT give Russell Slade a chance because we ALL know that in his own head, VT that is, if he puts up the money then that and that alone will get the team promoted.
In the week where he has again gone on record to have a go at the achievement of MM, again bleating about people not asking what would have happened if VT had not put the money in etc, he has again only demonstrated just how big an ego he has.
Money helps in football, there can be no doubt about that, but you also need to have the right manager and what MM achieved in not only delivering promotion, but also winning the League, cannot simply be put down to money. If that were the case the money given to OGS should have seen us comfortably at the top of the league, even after just 11 games, but sadly we have a squad devoid of confidence, passion and desire ALL characteristics which MM teams have in abundance.
We now move on to Russell Slade, and I wish him the very best of luck, and with automatic promotion already just a pipe dream let's hope he can get us in with a shout at the playoffs. One thing I believe is certain and that's our fans will realise that Russell Slade has picked up a poisened chalice and he has a massive job to get us involved in a playoff push.
VT on the other hand thinks I've put my money in so there is no reason not to get promoted. Well with the complete mess OGS has made of this squad It's you Vinnie who may have to give RS the chance and not the fans.
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Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:20 am
thatsthewaywelikeit wrote:carlccfc wrote:I wrote this piece yesterday afternoon for the Echo ahead of the shocking performance against Blackpool.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ns-7881198![]()
I have said Slade would not have been my choice of manager but what he can offer is 19 years experience of managing.
What I will agree with Tan about is what he said in a recent television interview about giving Slade a chance.
The choice could have been easy for Tan.
He could have tried to bring in a big name but I am not sure if that would have been the right direction to go in.
Popular former players who are household names don’t always work, to which Solskjaer was testament.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ns-7881198
Time will tell as always, but I really do hope that Slade can achieve big things and that he gets the backing of the fans from the start.
Bang on CarlHe needs to take these players abroad during the international break & get their fitness levels up. Some team bonding is needed & try and cut the players he doesn't want. Too many players in the squad for my liking. Ill back Slade 100% but feel that fans wont give him much time if he doesn't start well. Myself included probably....
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Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:49 am
Sven wrote:castleblue wrote:I think the real question here is WILL VT give Russell Slade a chance because we ALL know that in his own head, VT that is, if he puts up the money then that and that alone will get the team promoted.
In the week where he has again gone on record to have a go at the achievement of MM, again bleating about people not asking what would have happened if VT had not put the money in etc, he has again only demonstrated just how big an ego he has.
Money helps in football, there can be no doubt about that, but you also need to have the right manager and what MM achieved in not only delivering promotion, but also winning the League, cannot simply be put down to money. If that were the case the money given to OGS should have seen us comfortably at the top of the league, even after just 11 games, but sadly we have a squad devoid of confidence, passion and desire ALL characteristics which MM teams have in abundance.
We now move on to Russell Slade, and I wish him the very best of luck, and with automatic promotion already just a pipe dream let's hope he can get us in with a shout at the playoffs. One thing I believe is certain and that's our fans will realise that Russell Slade has picked up a poisened chalice and he has a massive job to get us involved in a playoff push.
VT on the other hand thinks I've put my money in so there is no reason not to get promoted. Well with the complete mess OGS has made of this squad It's you Vinnie who may have to give RS the chance and not the fans.
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I am guessing that Tan is more than a little frustrated at the lack of appreciation from the more vocal amongst the City fans that the promotion would not have occurred without his cash injection and support for the players Malky brought in
I can, to an extent, appreciate that but he needs to remember he hardly enamoured himself to the City faithful after his arrival by changing the colours in such a dictatorial way
People know I am not as anti-Tan as others and can appreciate the fact that of it weren't for him and his money there was a very good chance we would not be here now..and certainly not a club that had achieved the Premier League dream for even just one season
The facts are that Tan (metaphorically) supplied the building blocks, but it was Malky who built the wall and managed the squad to promotion, so BOTH played their part
But it does leave me thinking that Tan (in the form of another manager) may well have got us promoted with the financial backing he provided, but also asking could Makly have got us promoted without Tan and his money??
His Watford experience says probably not, which leaves me thinking that maybe Tan has a little bit of a point when the more vocal City fans give him no credit on that particular issue
Just my humble opinion, of course!
Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:51 am
Sven wrote:castleblue wrote:I think the real question here is WILL VT give Russell Slade a chance because we ALL know that in his own head, VT that is, if he puts up the money then that and that alone will get the team promoted.
In the week where he has again gone on record to have a go at the achievement of MM, again bleating about people not asking what would have happened if VT had not put the money in etc, he has again only demonstrated just how big an ego he has.
Money helps in football, there can be no doubt about that, but you also need to have the right manager and what MM achieved in not only delivering promotion, but also winning the League, cannot simply be put down to money. If that were the case the money given to OGS should have seen us comfortably at the top of the league, even after just 11 games, but sadly we have a squad devoid of confidence, passion and desire ALL characteristics which MM teams have in abundance.
We now move on to Russell Slade, and I wish him the very best of luck, and with automatic promotion already just a pipe dream let's hope he can get us in with a shout at the playoffs. One thing I believe is certain and that's our fans will realise that Russell Slade has picked up a poisened chalice and he has a massive job to get us involved in a playoff push.
VT on the other hand thinks I've put my money in so there is no reason not to get promoted. Well with the complete mess OGS has made of this squad It's you Vinnie who may have to give RS the chance and not the fans.
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Good post!![]()
I am guessing that Tan is more than a little frustrated at the lack of appreciation from the more vocal amongst the City fans that the promotion would not have occurred without his cash injection and support for the players Malky brought in
I can, to an extent, appreciate that but he needs to remember he hardly enamoured himself to the City faithful after his arrival by changing the colours in such a dictatorial way
People know I am not as anti-Tan as others and can appreciate the fact that of it weren't for him and his money there was a very good chance we would not be here now..and certainly not a club that had achieved the Premier League dream for even just one season
The facts are that Tan (metaphorically) supplied the building blocks, but it was Malky who built the wall and managed the squad to promotion, so BOTH played their part
But it does leave me thinking that Tan (in the form of another manager) may well have got us promoted with the financial backing he provided, but also asking could Makly have got us promoted without Tan and his money??
His Watford experience says probably not, which leaves me thinking that maybe Tan has a little bit of a point when the more vocal City fans give him no credit on that particular issue
Just my humble opinion, of course!
Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:09 am
bluelover wrote:Sven wrote:castleblue wrote:I think the real question here is WILL VT give Russell Slade a chance because we ALL know that in his own head, VT that is, if he puts up the money then that and that alone will get the team promoted.
In the week where he has again gone on record to have a go at the achievement of MM, again bleating about people not asking what would have happened if VT had not put the money in etc, he has again only demonstrated just how big an ego he has.
Money helps in football, there can be no doubt about that, but you also need to have the right manager and what MM achieved in not only delivering promotion, but also winning the League, cannot simply be put down to money. If that were the case the money given to OGS should have seen us comfortably at the top of the league, even after just 11 games, but sadly we have a squad devoid of confidence, passion and desire ALL characteristics which MM teams have in abundance.
We now move on to Russell Slade, and I wish him the very best of luck, and with automatic promotion already just a pipe dream let's hope he can get us in with a shout at the playoffs. One thing I believe is certain and that's our fans will realise that Russell Slade has picked up a poisened chalice and he has a massive job to get us involved in a playoff push.
VT on the other hand thinks I've put my money in so there is no reason not to get promoted. Well with the complete mess OGS has made of this squad It's you Vinnie who may have to give RS the chance and not the fans.
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Good post!![]()
I am guessing that Tan is more than a little frustrated at the lack of appreciation from the more vocal amongst the City fans that the promotion would not have occurred without his cash injection and support for the players Malky brought in
I can, to an extent, appreciate that but he needs to remember he hardly enamoured himself to the City faithful after his arrival by changing the colours in such a dictatorial way
People know I am not as anti-Tan as others and can appreciate the fact that of it weren't for him and his money there was a very good chance we would not be here now..and certainly not a club that had achieved the Premier League dream for even just one season
The facts are that Tan (metaphorically) supplied the building blocks, but it was Malky who built the wall and managed the squad to promotion, so BOTH played their part
But it does leave me thinking that Tan (in the form of another manager) may well have got us promoted with the financial backing he provided, but also asking could Makly have got us promoted without Tan and his money??
His Watford experience says probably not, which leaves me thinking that maybe Tan has a little bit of a point when the more vocal City fans give him no credit on that particular issue
Just my humble opinion, of course!
Blaming Tan for changing the identity of the club is one thing but every time we have a poor run of football its the usual suspects then blame him for whats happening on the pitch. He got rid of the cancer in Ole and its going to take time to get this team fit let alone playing the football they are all capable of playing.
There are many great managers who started at lower leagues and yes we all are concerned as to why Slade, considering the success he has had, hasn't been given a chance earlier than now. At the end of the day every managerial appointment is a gamble, successful managers such as Brendan Rogers have had bad spells at some clubs so there aren't any guarantees and whilst I do believe that Pulis was the most likely manager out there capable of turning our fortunes around, we have to give Slade a chance and hope his much needed man management skills can have a positive affect and get these talented players playing again
Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:10 am
Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:21 am
Colourblind wrote:A lot of sensible posts here ( apart from coco's of course). Scott and Gabbs have proved they cannot handle the mess that the chosen one left behind so basically it's Slade or bust. Let's leave Tan out of it for a while, and concentrate on the team.
Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:23 am
Bluebina wrote:Pullis was the man we needed, he sorted Palaces mess in two games!!!
I'll support Slade though !!!
Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:44 am
Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:19 am
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Good to see an intelligent debate, with the obvious exception of Coco's drivel.
I accept Slade is a big gamble, but I think all manager appointments are somewhat of a gamble, history tells us this.
I just hope he can pull the squad together, get them fitter ( which is incredible really at this level, that they are not fit enough)
and demand some passion be felt and shown by them.If he does, the undoubted talent in the squad will then come through in the results.
Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:57 pm
Coco wrote:Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Good to see an intelligent debate, with the obvious exception of Coco's drivel.
I accept Slade is a big gamble, but I think all manager appointments are somewhat of a gamble, history tells us this.
I just hope he can pull the squad together, get them fitter ( which is incredible really at this level, that they are not fit enough)
and demand some passion be felt and shown by them.If he does, the undoubted talent in the squad will then come through in the results.
"Intelligent debate" & tolerance of Vincent Tan has produced the position we find ourselves in today !
In football freefall
£170,000,000 in debt - remind me please where we were when Tan became owner
An over-sized , unfit ( Yes I agree unfit - incredible ) under-achieving squad
Haemorrhaging fans , currently 10,000 down , with an empty red-elephant of a stand extension
A laughing stock nationally & internationally
The manager's door in no need of WD 40
A fan base with a large proportion disillusioned , both by the owner's stumbling actions , and his apologist blindfold acolytes
History is ..... today ,now .... happening over and over again ! One day what is happening at the CCS will be history and our grandchildren will ask us , Gramps , what did you do ?
Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:48 pm
Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:31 pm
ThomasC wrote:we are the Championship version of an extremely limp Tottenham Hotspur...bloated squad of players all about the same level as each other, goalkeeper being the best player![]()
not one star outfield player to build a team around and play to get the best out of that particular player.
Also it's terrible miss-management not to build a team around Guerra, best finisher in the squad, but with that midfield behind him would of struggled to get goals
Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:43 pm
Bluebina wrote:ThomasC wrote:we are the Championship version of an extremely limp Tottenham Hotspur...bloated squad of players all about the same level as each other, goalkeeper being the best player![]()
not one star outfield player to build a team around and play to get the best out of that particular player.
Also it's terrible miss-management not to build a team around Guerra, best finisher in the squad, but with that midfield behind him would of struggled to get goals
Why aren't Guerra and Cala in the squad???? lets hope Slade can sort em out and interpret them to the squad....
Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:24 pm
Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:57 pm
Bluebina wrote:Bluebina wrote:ThomasC wrote:we are the Championship version of an extremely limp Tottenham Hotspur...bloated squad of players all about the same level as each other, goalkeeper being the best player![]()
not one star outfield player to build a team around and play to get the best out of that particular player.
Also it's terrible miss-management not to build a team around Guerra, best finisher in the squad, but with that midfield behind him would of struggled to get goals
Why aren't Guerra and Cala in the squad???? lets hope Slade can sort em out and interpret them to the squad....
Sorry intergrate them back into the squad, although Cala probably wouldn't make the team .......