Watched the interview can't help but like him

Just my opinion.

I'm not getting into a debate about the rebrand. My views are quite clear. We chose the red for hundred million. People will say it's not but I think he thinks we did and that's the most important thing in this affair.

I personally think he seems a good guy. If we showed him what he could mean to us if he changed back to blue by singing Vincent Tans blue army I really think it would make a difference. I think he wants to be loved.

What a load of shit. If he wants to be loved he could do 2 simple things and my 3 year old could tell you or him what them things are.

And i'm sorry but i didn't get a choice about the red 100mill or blue thing, did anyone else?

Great post, but unfortunately on here you are hanging yourself up to dry. Instead of trying to work together with tan, our fans from day one have just got on his back and nit pick everything he says and turns it into something bad. I hate seeing Cardiff in red personally, but I can't fault what he has done to our club financially and without a doubt he has saved us from the financial abyss we were ever so close to going in. I posed the question on here yesterday what would everyone's viewpoint be if the new owner did not change us back to blue and didn't fund the team or build on our resources, and yes you guessed it not one of the Tan out brigade could give an answer and chose to ignore the question. People need to start to realise that without Tan we could possibly be on a one way train to that financial abyss I mentioned earlier.

I think you're right about the Vincent Tans Blue and white army, I think he does want to be liked, and it would be the best chance of getting us back blue, calling him a wanker will do the opposite ........

Just my opinion.

I'm not getting into a debate about the rebrand. My views are quite clear. We chose the red for hundred million. People will say it's not but I think he thinks we did and that's the most important thing in this affair.

I personally think he seems a good guy. If we showed him what he could mean to us if he changed back to blue by singing Vincent Tans blue army I really think it would make a difference. I think he wants to be loved.

If Tan is feeling lonely he should start a website www.lonelychairman.com and meet fellow souls that are not understood like Mike Ashley & Venkys

Good post.

Just my opinion.

I'm not getting into a debate about the rebrand. My views are quite clear. We chose the red for hundred million. People will say it's not but I think he thinks we did and that's the most important thing in this affair.

I personally think he seems a good guy. If we showed him what he could mean to us if he changed back to blue by singing Vincent Tans blue army I really think it would make a difference. I think he wants to be loved.

If Tan is feeling lonely he should start a website http://www.lonelychairman.com and meet fellow souls that are not understood like Mike Ashley & Venkys

Funny you should mention newcastle's owner as our fans are just as big of nobheads as Newcastle fans.

Great post, but unfortunately on here you are hanging yourself up to dry. Instead of trying to work together with tan, our fans from day one have just got on his back and nit pick everything he says and turns it into something bad. I hate seeing Cardiff in red personally, but I can't fault what he has done to our club financially and without a doubt he has saved us from the financial abyss we were ever so close to going in. I posed the question on here yesterday what would everyone's viewpoint be if the new owner did not change us back to blue and didn't fund the team or build on our resources, and yes you guessed it not one of the Tan out brigade could give an answer and chose to ignore the question. People need to start to realise that without Tan we could possibly be on a one way train to that financial abyss I mentioned earlier.

I'll give you an answer....if a new owner refuses to turn us back to blue we continue campaigning.

I sometimes wonder if fans like you were around in the early 90s when we were at the foot of the dungeon league and being threaten of closure YET CAME THROUGH. All this bollocks about Tan saving us is just that. We have been a lot worse of than when Tan came through but survived and we would have survived now.

What a load of shit. If he wants to be loved he could do 2 simple things and my 3 year old could tell you or him what them things are.

And i'm sorry but i didn't get a choice about the red 100mill or blue thing, did anyone else?

We were being represented. There was also a considerable push on social media, forums etc by those who wanted the 100 million investment as that would give us Premiership football.

Individual fans were not asked but were we about Ridsdale's changes or Sam's changes?

Great post, but unfortunately on here you are hanging yourself up to dry. Instead of trying to work together with tan, our fans from day one have just got on his back and nit pick everything he says and turns it into something bad. I hate seeing Cardiff in red personally, but I can't fault what he has done to our club financially and without a doubt he has saved us from the financial abyss we were ever so close to going in. I posed the question on here yesterday what would everyone's viewpoint be if the new owner did not change us back to blue and didn't fund the team or build on our resources, and yes you guessed it not one of the Tan out brigade could give an answer and chose to ignore the question. People need to start to realise that without Tan we could possibly be on a one way train to that financial abyss I mentioned earlier.

I'll give you an answer....if a new owner refuses to turn us back to blue we continue campaigning.

I sometimes wonder if fans like you were around in the early 90s when we were at the foot of the dungeon league and being threaten of closure YET CAME THROUGH. All this bollocks about Tan saving us is just that. We have been a lot worse of than when Tan came through but survived and we would have survived now.

I was Ian.

You know full well things changed. HMRC had changed their policy and were not allowing clubs to fob them off with pennies in the pound. That's why we were on the verge.

Funny you should mention newcastle's owner as our fans are just as big of nobheads as Newcastle fans.

Fans of other clubs I have spoken to have all said the same that they would protest about the change of kit colour if it happened to their club.

I'm not getting into a debate about the rebrand. My views are quite clear. We chose the red for hundred million. People will say it's not but I think he thinks we did and that's the most important thing in this affair.

We chose the red? I don't recall this. When did the club as the fans opinions? Was there an official ballot of all ST holders or members? NO.

I personally think he seems a good guy. If we showed him what he could mean to us if he changed back to blue by singing Vincent Tans blue army I really think it would make a difference. I think he wants to be loved.

If he wants to be loved, then he knows what he has to do.

Great post, but unfortunately on here you are hanging yourself up to dry. Instead of trying to work together with tan, our fans from day one have just got on his back and nit pick everything he says and turns it into something bad. I hate seeing Cardiff in red personally, but I can't fault what he has done to our club financially and without a doubt he has saved us from the financial abyss we were ever so close to going in. I posed the question on here yesterday what would everyone's viewpoint be if the new owner did not change us back to blue and didn't fund the team or build on our resources, and yes you guessed it not one of the Tan out brigade could give an answer and chose to ignore the question. People need to start to realise that without Tan we could possibly be on a one way train to that financial abyss I mentioned earlier.

I'll give you an answer....if a new owner refuses to turn us back to blue we continue campaigning.

I sometimes wonder if fans like you were around in the early 90s when we were at the foot of the dungeon league and being threaten of closure YET CAME THROUGH. All this bollocks about Tan saving us is just that. We have been a lot worse of than when Tan came through but survived and we would have survived now.

Yes I you are right I was not around then as I was just little child back then. I am not saying we haven't had bad times in the past. But without what Tan has put in we would have been facing administration and possibly liquidation and if you think otherwise well that's your choice. So you will keep campaigning to no avail? Look we all want to return to blue. But it baffles me how some people just try and blame everything and anything on Tan. All he done really which has been bad is change the colour and that is a fact ( I have not problem with some people not being able to get over that). Everything else he has done has to be fair been for the better of the club.

I'm not getting into a debate about the rebrand. My views are quite clear. We chose the red for hundred million. People will say it's not but I think he thinks we did and that's the most important thing in this affair.

We chose the red? I don't recall this. When did the club as the fans opinions? Was there an official ballot of all ST holders or members? NO.

I personally think he seems a good guy. If we showed him what he could mean to us if he changed back to blue by singing Vincent Tans blue army I really think it would make a difference. I think he wants to be loved.

If he wants to be loved, then he knows what he has to do.

No we didn't get a vote but I seem to recall at the time of it first being announced, and the sudden backlash he threatened to pull out of the club. Then people realised what this could do and there was a sudden change of perspective, as soon as the change happened a lot of people who accepted it to avoid him pulling out quickly turned into tan haters. So no we didn't get a vote but when he threatened to pull out a fair few allowed it to happen. So when people say about boycotting and stuff, they should have all protested or done whatever when he was saying he may pull out. It's no good doing it now.

No we didn't get a vote but I seem to recall at the time of it first being announced, and the sudden backlash he threatened to pull out of the club. Then people realised what this could do and there was a sudden change of perspective, as soon as the change happened a lot of people who accepted it to avoid him pulling out quickly turned into tan haters. So no we didn't get a vote but when he threatened to pull out a fair few allowed it to happen. So when people say about boycotting and stuff, they should have all protested or done whatever when he was saying he may pull out. It's no good doing it now.

No vote or any sort of official poll then. Thanks for backing up my point. In fact, it was opposed & the idea was withdrawn for a few weeks. (I remember feeling real pride in the fan base that day!)

What your post does show though, is that many of the supporters didn't have a choice.

Many did do things at the time.

I can't recall anything happening at that time, apart from the original backlash. So do you not think there was a sudden change of tune, when he threatened to leave when he withdrew the rebrand, of most of our fans as they were to scared to let him leave?

Great post, but unfortunately on here you are hanging yourself up to dry. Instead of trying to work together with tan, our fans from day one have just got on his back and nit pick everything he says and turns it into something bad. I hate seeing Cardiff in red personally, but I can't fault what he has done to our club financially and without a doubt he has saved us from the financial abyss we were ever so close to going in. I posed the question on here yesterday what would everyone's viewpoint be if the new owner did not change us back to blue and didn't fund the team or build on our resources, and yes you guessed it not one of the Tan out brigade could give an answer and chose to ignore the question. People need to start to realise that without Tan we could possibly be on a one way train to that financial abyss I mentioned earlier.

I'll give you an answer....if a new owner refuses to turn us back to blue we continue campaigning.

I sometimes wonder if fans like you were around in the early 90s when we were at the foot of the dungeon league and being threaten of closure YET CAME THROUGH. All this bollocks about Tan saving us is just that. We have been a lot worse of than when Tan came through but survived and we would have survived now.

Yes I you are right I was not around then as I was just little child back then. I am not saying we haven't had bad times in the past. But without what Tan has put in we would have been facing administration and possibly liquidation and if you think otherwise well that's your choice. So you will keep campaigning to no avail? Look we all want to return to blue. But it baffles me how some people just try and blame everything and anything on Tan. All he done really which has been bad is change the colour and that is a fact ( I have not problem with some people not being able to get over that). Everything else he has done has to be fair been for the better of the club.

Turk it doesn't matter whether you've been a supporter for 5mins or 40yrs like me.I've been around since 1973 but I wouldn't use the fact that to lend weight to my argument.People that do usually have nothing of any value to say.And Mr Tan did infact save the club when administration was not an option.Now before you or anyone else say anything, unlike some people I don't ever come out with thing that aren't factually correct.It's all there should you chose to look it up-a matter of court reord.If it was't for Mr Tan there would be no Cardiff City.

Great post, but unfortunately on here you are hanging yourself up to dry. Instead of trying to work together with tan, our fans from day one have just got on his back and nit pick everything he says and turns it into something bad. I hate seeing Cardiff in red personally, but I can't fault what he has done to our club financially and without a doubt he has saved us from the financial abyss we were ever so close to going in. I posed the question on here yesterday what would everyone's viewpoint be if the new owner did not change us back to blue and didn't fund the team or build on our resources, and yes you guessed it not one of the Tan out brigade could give an answer and chose to ignore the question. People need to start to realise that without Tan we could possibly be on a one way train to that financial abyss I mentioned earlier.

I'll give you an answer....if a new owner refuses to turn us back to blue we continue campaigning.

I sometimes wonder if fans like you were around in the early 90s when we were at the foot of the dungeon league and being threaten of closure YET CAME THROUGH. All this bollocks about Tan saving us is just that. We have been a lot worse of than when Tan came through but survived and we would have survived now.

Yes I you are right I was not around then as I was just little child back then. I am not saying we haven't had bad times in the past. But without what Tan has put in we would have been facing administration and possibly liquidation and if you think otherwise well that's your choice. So you will keep campaigning to no avail? Look we all want to return to blue. But it baffles me how some people just try and blame everything and anything on Tan. All he done really which has been bad is change the colour and that is a fact ( I have not problem with some people not being able to get over that). Everything else he has done has to be fair been for the better of the club.

Turk it doesn't matter whether you've been a supporter for 5mins or 40yrs like me.I've been around since 1973 but I wouldn't use the fact that to lend weight to my argument.People that do usually have nothing of any value to say.And Mr Tan did infact save the club when administration was not an option.Now before you or anyone else say anything, unlike some people I don't ever come out with thing that aren't factually correct.It's all there should you chose to look it up-a matter of court reord.If it was't for Mr Tan there would be no Cardiff City.

"Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument" my mother used to say

Anyhow, my take on these interviews - he's raising the profile again, which in pure PR terms it is, and is getting mileage as a result. To what end only he and his close advisers will know, we can surmise it is to sell or what, literally we don't know.

Just my opinion.

I'm not getting into a debate about the rebrand. My views are quite clear. We chose the red for hundred million. People will say it's not but I think he thinks we did and that's the most important thing in this affair.

I personally think he seems a good guy. If we showed him what he could mean to us if he changed back to blue by singing Vincent Tans blue army I really think it would make a difference. I think he wants to be loved.

I agree

I'm not getting into a debate about the rebrand. My views are quite clear. We chose the red for hundred million. People will say it's not but I think he thinks we did and that's the most important thing in this affair.

We chose the red? I don't recall this. When did the club as the fans opinions? Was there an official ballot of all ST holders or members? NO.

I personally think he seems a good guy. If we showed him what he could mean to us if he changed back to blue by singing Vincent Tans blue army I really think it would make a difference. I think he wants to be loved.

If he wants to be loved, then he knows what he has to do.

No we didn't get a vote but I seem to recall at the time of it first being announced, and the sudden backlash he threatened to pull out of the club. Then people realised what this could do and there was a sudden change of perspective, as soon as the change happened a lot of people who accepted it to avoid him pulling out quickly turned into tan haters. So no we didn't get a vote but when he threatened to pull out a fair few allowed it to happen. So when people say about boycotting and stuff, they should have all protested or done whatever when he was saying he may pull out. It's no good doing it now.

As you are aware there was a general widespread perception that it was change to red or he'd walk, with the very real proposition of the club going under. There was NO reason to change us to red other than the fact that he could. He could have 'achieved' what he did with the club by honouring the tradition and cultural integrity if the club by keeping our colours!

Another point, Tan did not take over the club to somehow do us a favour or to 'rescue us'. He took over because it was a business opportunity ( if not with the club then to increase his reputation for further success of his other projects).

Great post, but unfortunately on here you are hanging yourself up to dry. Instead of trying to work together with tan, our fans from day one have just got on his back and nit pick everything he says and turns it into something bad. I hate seeing Cardiff in red personally, but I can't fault what he has done to our club financially and without a doubt he has saved us from the financial abyss we were ever so close to going in. I posed the question on here yesterday what would everyone's viewpoint be if the new owner did not change us back to blue and didn't fund the team or build on our resources, and yes you guessed it not one of the Tan out brigade could give an answer and chose to ignore the question. People need to start to realise that without Tan we could possibly be on a one way train to that financial abyss I mentioned earlier.

I'll give you an answer....if a new owner refuses to turn us back to blue we continue campaigning.

I sometimes wonder if fans like you were around in the early 90s when we were at the foot of the dungeon league and being threaten of closure YET CAME THROUGH. All this bollocks about Tan saving us is just that. We have been a lot worse of than when Tan came through but survived and we would have survived now.

Yes I you are right I was not around then as I was just little child back then. I am not saying we haven't had bad times in the past. But without what Tan has put in we would have been facing administration and possibly liquidation and if you think otherwise well that's your choice. So you will keep campaigning to no avail? Look we all want to return to blue. But it baffles me how some people just try and blame everything and anything on Tan. All he done really which has been bad is change the colour and that is a fact ( I have not problem with some people not being able to get over that). Everything else he has done has to be fair been for the better of the club.

Turk it doesn't matter whether you've been a supporter for 5mins or 40yrs like me.I've been around since 1973 but I wouldn't use the fact that to lend weight to my argument.People that do usually have nothing of any value to say.And Mr Tan did infact save the club when administration was not an option.Now before you or anyone else say anything, unlike some people I don't ever come out with thing that aren't factually correct.It's all there should you chose to look it up-a matter of court reord.If it was't for Mr Tan there would be no Cardiff City.

"Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument" my mother used to say

Anyhow, my take on these interviews - he's raising the profile again, which in pure PR terms it is, and is getting mileage as a result. To what end only he and his close advisers will know, we can surmise it is to sell or what, literally we don't know.

I like him... kind of

The rebrand sucks. It really does. But I do kind of agree, if we take the first step by showing him what would happen if he changed back to blue.

We shouldn't have to make the first step... I agree, BUT if we were all singing Vincent Tan's Blue Army... or holding up pictures of him in a BLUE shirt with "do this and we'll love you" that's going to go a lot further than shouting "you're a wanker. red wanker! you red wanker. We hate you wanker"

Imagine if we could get back to blue AND have his investment behind us... jesus we'd be unstoppable.

Great post, but unfortunately on here you are hanging yourself up to dry. Instead of trying to work together with tan, our fans from day one have just got on his back and nit pick everything he says and turns it into something bad. I hate seeing Cardiff in red personally, but I can't fault what he has done to our club financially and without a doubt he has saved us from the financial abyss we were ever so close to going in. I posed the question on here yesterday what would everyone's viewpoint be if the new owner did not change us back to blue and didn't fund the team or build on our resources, and yes you guessed it not one of the Tan out brigade could give an answer and chose to ignore the question. People need to start to realise that without Tan we could possibly be on a one way train to that financial abyss I mentioned earlier.

Some good posts on here, including this one. I would disagree that people have nitpicked since day one. They weren't nit picking when Malky was handed tens of millions to keep us up. It's only when that went pearshaped and all the shit that followed have they all crawled out of the woodwork. Although they will all say they were furious with Tan from day one.

I don't think he's as bad as some think.He wants the best for the club, what owner wouldn't? Although I do feel he's made some mistakes, The rebrand being the biggest obviously, but the 1927 protest and wearing of blue may well one day convince him.Either way City will return to blue one day, and not too far away. I see the red only as a temporary thing.

The club would have gone had he not put HIS £100 or so million into it,I think that's a fact.

I don't think he will ever leave us in the shit, when he does go. Cardiff City have actually helped make him a very well known business person thoughout the world now, and i'm sure has opened doors for him that may have been more difficult had he not owned us. To leave us in the shit would seriously damage his reputation worldwide and also help put the mockers on him buying another UK club or certainly a US club.

We'll Keep supporting the boys on the field and the club, but also we keep the Blue protest going, but without the distasteful comments and behaviour that sometimes goes with it.

Some good posts on here, including this one. I would disagree that people have nitpicked since day one. They weren't nit picking when Malky was handed tens of millions to keep us up. It's only when that went pearshaped and all the shit that followed have they all crawled out of the woodwork. Although they will all say they were furious with Tan from day one.

Well you can disagree all you wish, there were many who "nitpicked" since Day 1. I was one of them.

Wouldn't it be wonderful... I spent ten minutes making this picture and it brought a tear to my eye...

Wouldn't it be wonderful... I spent ten minutes making this picture and it brought a tear to my eye...

Just a shame I couldn't get the old badge in... they're a bugger to do

Wouldn't it be wonderful... I spent ten minutes making this picture and it brought a tear to my eye...

Just a shame I couldn't get the old badge in... they're a bugger to do

Our problem is we have many fans who have made it clear they have no intention of any form of compromise.

Our problem is we have many fans who have made it clear they have no intention of any form of compromise.

Why should we? Blue and Red is as alien to CCFC as red and black... Palace/Barca type shirts are as Cardiff as the red shirt.

CCFC should play in Blue and white trim. End of story.

Our problem is we have many fans who have made it clear they have no intention of any form of compromise.

Why should we? Blue and Red is as alien to CCFC as red and black... Palace/Barca type shirts are as Cardiff as the red shirt.

CCFC should play in Blue and white trim. End of story.

We may need to compromise somewhere. Maybe keep the badge but change the shirt to blue... (or have an entirely new badge with dragon AND bluebird... I don't know).

I know we're the ones pouring our hard earned cash into tickets and shirts (which he'd sell more of if the home kit was blue) but people tend to forget just how much he's put in as well...

I mean... how many millions... I'll never see that much money in my lifetime...

Our problem is we have many fans who have made it clear they have no intention of any form of compromise.

Why should we? Blue and Red is as alien to CCFC as red and black... Palace/Barca type shirts are as Cardiff as the red shirt.

CCFC should play in Blue and white trim. End of story.

Unfortunately the guy who currently owns the bulb thinks otherwise. The more we call him a wanker the more he might dig his heels in. Which is his right and the man who bankrolls us. That's why I think Vincent Tan's Blue and White army would help.

Unfortunately the guy who currently owns the bulb thinks otherwise. The more we call him a wanker the more he might dig his heels in. Which is his right and the man who bankrolls us. That's why I think Vincent Tan's Blue and White army would help.

I don't care what he thinks. You earn respect from a fanbase & the way he disrespected this club's identity and traditions means that I PERSONALLY don't respect him one iota & certainly won't be singing the clown's name... EVER.