How has the demise of the valley rams and soul crew...

...affected the general supporter demographic?

There doesn't seem to be a hardcore element of fans among the club any more and its got me wondering ; Are we too soft? Don't get me wrong, i don't want ccfc supporters in the papers for the wrong reasons, but I feel as though the supporters of 20+years ago wouldn't have been so docile to all that has happened to the club since tan has come in.

I'd appreciate to hear from any supporters who were active members of the groups mentioned.

Ill say one thing when no one else was supporting city these where the lads who supported cardiff city through thick and thin through all the bad times yes they caused trouble where ever we went but there where reasons for that but loyal to the cause