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' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:01 pm

Sunday 14th Sept 2014

Cardiff City fans call on Vincent Tan to hire Tony Pulis to replace Ole Gunnar Solskjaer after Norwich City implosion

In the wake of Cardiff City's horror show against Norwich, disgruntled fans have been having their say, in their droves, about what went wrong and where the club go now.

Cardiff City fans have reacted with anger after watching their team surrender a 2-0 lead and going down 4-2 at home to fellow promotion hopefuls Norwich.

The capitulation has heaped pressure on manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, who presided over the second half of last season's relegation from the Premier League.

Our Facebook and Twitter accounts have been inundated with comments about Solskjaer amid calls to replace him with Blubirds fan Tony Pulis.

Take a look at what our readers are saying on Facebook today...

Peter Ward

Time for Mr Tan to bring his tough business approach to bear and sack Ole whilst Tony Pullis is still available!

Ian Smith

Ole is clueless and Tan needs to go and get Pulis now before it's too late.

David Morris

Clueless second half, I think Ole has got no choice but to go. Lose to Middlesbrough and it's bye bye. Get Pulis in before he goes to Newcastle

Take a look at what Pulis is saying today..

Speaking on Sky Sports' Goals on Sunday show, Newport born Pulis discussed his stunning departure from Crystal Palace, hours before the Premier League season kick off.

The in-demand Welshman admitted he fell out with chairman Steve Parrish before leaving Palace, before saying: “The chairman has the responsibility to ask what I'm doing. There's never a good time to leave a club. Things get taken out of context all I want to say is I had a great time at Crystal Palace."

When asked about possibly managing the Bluebirds or even Wales next, Pulis remained coy, saying: "I've been based around Poole and Bournemouth for most of my managerial career, so it would be no problem for me to work in Wales.

"Chris Coleman and his Welsh team got a great result in midweek, especially with Bosnia losing and once the crowd buy into what he's doing, he will be there for a long time. A lot of people have spoken to me about the Wales job but I'm fully behind Chris."

What about the fans who aren't calling for Pulis?

Even from those who weren't calling for Pulis to take the helm at the Cardiff City Stadium, Solskjaer was the man who was being blamed for the bitter home defeat.

Gwyn Cymro

Ole doesn't know how to motivate his players.

How can you go from playing best football to worst football in a few minutes? The blame has to rest with the manager.”

Stanley Williams

The advice I would give him,forget the fancy football .just flood the midfield and defence.

Just score one goal and win. This is the Championship That's how teams play.”

Jon Price

He's out of his depth, but still think he has potential and connections. For me he needs an old head by his side as director of football to coach him and realise the potential. Reckon we could get Fergy out of retirement?

What are fans saying on Twitter?

Things weren't much better on our Cardiff City Twitter feed...

Richard Gordon @richard_gordon
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@BluebirdsBanter @WalesOnline selling our captain who has lots of experience at this level on deadline day seems a master stroke.....

Matthew @m6_thomas
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@BluebirdsBanter @WalesOnline Ole out!!!!!!!!

huw garrett @bluebird_hdg
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@BluebirdsBanter @ElTelPhillips like we have since he took over! Hard earned cash & time off work for that drivel .

Scott Johnson @roathboy
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Norwich's third goal is painful to watch. Cardiff haven't conceded a goal that bad since the Dave Jones days

What about the fans on WalesOnline?

And Bluebirds fans had their say in numbers on the comments section of our webstie...

Douglas Gregory

I hate to say this but the worse thing that can happen on Tuesday is we win. It will delay the inevitable and cut down on the time a new manager needs if we are to go up this season.

Robert Morgans

I'm fed up of Cardiff players and the manager saying they will bounce back and improve.

There's only so much, as a supporter, you can put up with. We've the best squad in the league yet playing poorly.

Chris Jones

I agree that the first half of the first half, we looked fluid and direct. After that was a complete shambles!

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... nt-7769067

Re: Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis

Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:45 pm

I'd have to agree,pulis should have been made the appointment in December we'd be a premierleague team now but I wanted to see attacking football but not a team being over run every week and looking less like a team by the week

Re: Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis

Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:22 pm

one word deluded

Re: Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis

Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:12 pm

Reza wrote:I'd have to agree,pulis should have been made the appointment in December we'd be a premierleague team now but I wanted to see attacking football but not a team being over run every week and looking less like a team by the week


I thought tan was all about business models. Tony pulis's record is fantastic and should of been the right fit as turning Malky's team into a Pulis team, we can consider would not be a huge transitional period for the team to understand what he wants, hence, protecting his investment

Re: Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis

Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:13 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Reza wrote:I'd have to agree,pulis should have been made the appointment in December we'd be a premierleague team now but I wanted to see attacking football but not a team being over run every week and looking less like a team by the week


I thought tan was all about business models. Tony pulis's record is fantastic and should of been the right fit as turning Malky's team into a Pulis's team, we can consider would not be a huge transitional period for the team to understand what he wants, hence, protecting his investment




Agree

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:27 pm

Tony Pulis to Cardiff City? Nathan Blake insists he can't see former Crystal Palace boss taking over the Bluebirds
Sunday Sep 14, 2014

BY NATHAN BLAKE
After angry Cardiff City fans called for former Palace boss Tony Pulis to take over in the wake the 4-2 defeat against Norwich, Nathan Blake has insisted it's unlikely


Could Tony Pulis replace Ole Gunnar Solskjaer at Cardiff City? Nathan Blake says no

It appears that Saturday’s defeat to Norwich, and the manner of it, has been something of a watershed for some Cardiff City fans.

There are now calls for Tony Pulis to take over from Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as manager, and clearly some supporters have completely lost faith in the Norwegian.

I know Tony reasonably well, and let me say straight away I can’t see him coming to Cardiff if it came down to it.

This is a fellow who was named Premier League manager of the year last season. That has made him a sought-after individual and my own hunch is that he will want to stay at the top level.

Come next month, or maybe the month after, I’m sure we’ll see the usual managerial casualties in the Premier League. Tony will then be on the radar of chairman at the higher level and so my guess is that he will sit tight.

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:28 pm

Tony Pulis wont come near us under the present regime, so we can count him out, in my opinion.

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:13 pm

Annis I totally agree with you, I can't see pull is being a yes man ......

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:17 pm

I dont want him anyway :bluescarf: :ole:

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:20 pm

Warren of Merthyr wrote:Annis I totally agree with you, I can't see pull is being a yes man ......


Warren, 100% Not a yes man :thumbright:

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:27 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Tony Pulis wont come near us under the present regime, so we can count him out, in my opinion.

money talks in this game. pulis is unemployed. about 98 pounds a couple a week on benefit :ayatollah: :lol:

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:05 pm

f**k pulis the same cry babies calling for him after a few games into the new season will be crying for him to be sacked if we lose a few games..

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:18 pm

The present regime is nothing to do with why Pulis won't come to City. To suggest otherwise is total bollox.
Grow up!

He's never been asked, he's never shown any interest, and he probably wouldn't suit us at this time. Last October he would have been a fantastic choice , but now probably not.

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:28 pm

I'm very worried here that many are suggesting our best bet is to bring in Tony Pulis to get promotion sorted out and then?.......
Sounds like a marriage of convenience where the promotion specialist comes in, secures the move to the PL and then gets swiftly moved out when there is a perceived dip in form as results aren't amazing in the hardest league in Europe.

Captain Marshall said prior to the Norwich game that it was an ok start so how can that have changed, just like that after a defeat to fancied top 3 opposition? Norwich were PL last year too so that one result is a daft barometer of success or team prospects.

It's like Dad's Army: Don't panic!!!!

:bluescarf:

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:03 pm

Tony Pulis said “differences” of opinion with the co-chairman Steve Parish prompted his surprise departure from Crystal Palace but believes the club have enough strength to remain in the division despite the upheaval.

The Premier League’s manager of the season for last term, when he hoisted the side from bottom on his appointment in late November to an 11th-place finish, departed Selhurst Park by mutual consent 36 hours before the opening-day defeat at Arsenal after disagreements over transfer policy. Palace have failed to register a league win so far, with Neil Warnock’s side preserving a point against Burnley on Saturday only courtesy of Julian Speroni’s late penalty save.

“For me to sit here and say there weren’t differences between me and Steve would be ridiculous,” Pulis told Sky’s Goals on Sunday. “Having said that, the Thursday before the Arsenal game, I went out for dinner with Steve and he paid for it, so there can’t have been that much wrong. It’s only right that the chairman, who puts his own money into a club, has a right and responsibility to ask what you’re doing or what you’re not doing. I don’t have a problem with that. The other issues and things, I don’t really want to go into that. It just got to that stage where I thought [leaving] was best.

“I made the decision to speak to Steve about certain things, and we needed to agree together that we would go our different paths. I have great respect for everything he’s done at the football club, with the other three directors. They’ve spent their own money to keep the club afloat, and they’re getting their dividends now. They deserve everything they get, those four.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... tch-report?

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:04 am

Jinks wrote:f**k pulis the same cry babies calling for him after a few games into the new season will be crying for him to be sacked if we lose a few games..

This. We lose one or two games and then all of a sudden it's "........ OUT!!!!", complete fools.

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:08 am

Woodville Willie wrote:I'm very worried here that many are suggesting our best bet is to bring in Tony Pulis to get promotion sorted out and then?.......
Sounds like a marriage of convenience where the promotion specialist comes in, secures the move to the PL and then gets swiftly moved out when there is a perceived dip in form as results aren't amazing in the hardest league in Europe.

Captain Marshall said prior to the Norwich game that it was an ok start so how can that have changed, just like that after a defeat to fancied top 3 opposition? Norwich were PL last year too so that one result is a daft barometer of success or team prospects.

It's like Dad's Army: Don't panic!!!!

:bluescarf:


Promotion specialist?

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:05 am

JonCCFC wrote:
Jinks wrote:f**k pulis the same cry babies calling for him after a few games into the new season will be crying for him to be sacked if we lose a few games..

This. We lose one or two games and then all of a sudden it's "........ OUT!!!!", complete fools.


agree, its completley ridiculous, if we'd been 3-0 down in the furst half and fought back to 4-2 i think the reaction would be very different

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:27 am

Shouldn't it be a section of fans want Pulis? For heavens sake, people are making him out to be God, he is good at keeping a team in a league as at Stoke, palace, but not what we need. Got to give Ole a chance, can't go changing managers just because things look a bit rocky, MAlky was given time. So must Ole.

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:28 am

In what world does a manager take a team from outside the relegation zone to inside it, keep it there and then manage to finish bottom whilst keeping his job for the next season?

Questionable signings whilst in the premier league, and still with a chance of staying up!

Then going down, spending £10 million on defenders and manage to concede 4 at home , whilst being 2 up!

Pulis is a quality manager, if we got him it would be a coup in my eyes! He is premiership, we sadly are not, thanks to one man OGS.

:ole: do me a favour. Absolute joke.

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:38 am

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Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:38 am

Cornishblue wrote:In what world does a manager take a team from outside the relegation zone to inside it, keep it there and then manage to finish bottom whilst keeping his job for the next season?

Questionable signings whilst in the premier league, and still with a chance of staying up!

Then going down, spending £10 million on defenders and manage to concede 4 at home , whilst being 2 up!

Pulis is a quality manager, if we got him it would be a coup in my eyes! He is premiership, we sadly are not, thanks to one man OGS.

:ole: do me a favour. Absolute joke.

If MAlky had been in charge another 2 weeks we would of been in the relegation zone. Saturday only 1 new defender played, Morrison, we certainly didn't pay more than £3million for him, as lennie Lawrence once said ' judge me after 12 games', that's what we need to do with Ole., that is starting from this season .

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:13 am

Cornishblue wrote:In what world does a manager take a team from outside the relegation zone to inside it, keep it there and then manage to finish bottom whilst keeping his job for the next season?

Questionable signings whilst in the premier league, and still with a chance of staying up!

Then going down, spending £10 million on defenders and manage to concede 4 at home , whilst being 2 up!

Pulis is a quality manager, if we got him it would be a coup in my eyes! He is premiership, we sadly are not, thanks to one man OGS.

:ole: do me a favour. Absolute joke.


absolute nonsense, with everything that was happening we were going down no matter what. malky didnt get promotion in his first season and we didnt sack him, ole has had a handful of games in charge at this level, to go choping and changing managers will be championship suicide, time is needed

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:27 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Woodville Willie wrote:I'm very worried here that many are suggesting our best bet is to bring in Tony Pulis to get promotion sorted out and then?.......
Sounds like a marriage of convenience where the promotion specialist comes in, secures the move to the PL and then gets swiftly moved out when there is a perceived dip in form as results aren't amazing in the hardest league in Europe.

Captain Marshall said prior to the Norwich game that it was an ok start so how can that have changed, just like that after a defeat to fancied top 3 opposition? Norwich were PL last year too so that one result is a daft barometer of success or team prospects.

It's like Dad's Army: Don't panic!!!!

:bluescarf:


Promotion specialist?


Oops! I'm a bad boy. Don't know what the hell I was thinking there. Lol. Old age doesn't come alone. :old:
Sorry. :notworthy:

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:51 am

Woodville Willie wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Woodville Willie wrote:I'm very worried here that many are suggesting our best bet is to bring in Tony Pulis to get promotion sorted out and then?.......
Sounds like a marriage of convenience where the promotion specialist comes in, secures the move to the PL and then gets swiftly moved out when there is a perceived dip in form as results aren't amazing in the hardest league in Europe.

Captain Marshall said prior to the Norwich game that it was an ok start so how can that have changed, just like that after a defeat to fancied top 3 opposition? Norwich were PL last year too so that one result is a daft barometer of success or team prospects.

It's like Dad's Army: Don't panic!!!!

:bluescarf:


Promotion specialist?


Oops! I'm a bad boy. Don't know what the hell I was thinking there. Lol. Old age doesn't come alone. :old:
Sorry. :notworthy:


Tell me about it! :thumbup: ;)

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:37 am

I can look beyond the relegation we suffered last season whilst OGS was manager because the club was in freefall because of off the field stuff long before he ever arrived. Despite a promising start I also believe that not even MM could have kept us up but I do believe that MM ability to organise would have meant we would not have finished in bottom position.

It would be unfair to blame OGS for the relegation but, in my opinion, the fact we ultimately finished bottom is completely down to his pre-occupation with tinkering with the starting 11 and even more worrying at times the tactical set up. We may only be 6 games into the season but it is clear and again in my opinion beyond any reasonable debate that he has not learned the lesson from last season about constantly swapping and changing, and that's a massive concern.

Whatever your views about Tony Pulis one thing that's difficult to argue against is his ability to organise his teams. Look no further than what he achieved with Palace last season which when he arrived was a club on it's knees having won only 4 points from a possible 33.

In his 27 games in charge only 22 players made up the starting 11 and 4 of those players were signed late in the January transfer window. But what he did was very quickly to settle on the spine of the team where Speroni, Delaney & Gabbidon / Dann at CB, Jedinek & Dikgacoi as holding midfield players with Jerome % and Chamakh sharing the 1 player up front. He also settled on a 4-2-3-1 tactical formation in 72% of those 27 matches and as a result he won 41 points out of 81 available.

In his 18 league matches in charge last season MM only used 18 players in his starting 11 again with a settled spine in the team, Marshall, Caulker & Turner as CB , Medel & Gunnarsonn / Whitts as holding midfielders and Campbell & Odemwingie sharing the 1 player up front. MM mainly used 2 tactical formations 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-4-1 which covered 73% of his 18 games in charge.

Tomorrow evening Manga will no doubt start the game which will be the 18th player already this season to make the starting 11, whilst the tactical formation will be anyones guess. It's been 4-2-3-1 in the last 2 games and the performances have been dire. What will the tinkerman come up with tomorrow :?

That's the biggest problem in my opinion and it absolutely wouldn't be a problem with a manager like Tony Pulis, every player would know thier job within the tactical formation, his favourite is 4-2-3-1, it's called organisation and that's everything we are not at the moment.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:52 pm

I don't think any manager out there will guarantee us promotion. I've said for several weeks that while we may have our biggest squad ever, I don't think it's anywhere near our best squad ever. Not going to be easy to get out of this division with the players here, I think there are better teams than us in this league.

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:44 pm

So this is what it takes to make the fans turn on Ole?

I think everyone were and still are waiting for the team to gel. A lot of new players and a new philosophy of football. Then a horrific 45 minutes against one of the best, if not the best, team in the championship. Suddenly the manager is clueless, the players are rubbish and we're heading for league one. I think that's a bit too quick a conclusion to make.

I do understand there are expectations and results matter even at this early stage in the season. But you can't be at the top of the league all season. Falling flat against Norwich without some key players (for whatever reason) at this stage, is hardly a huge surprise.

I really hope the results will come, and I think they will, but I urge you all not to get carried away when the results doesn't come instantly. Changing managers now could turn out to be a costly affair and it could get great results long-term if a project like Ole's is given the time. The squad is still quality and the season is long.

In general I am quite concerned with the growing trend to appoint and sack managers every full moon. Imho, it's horrible for youth development, club finances, long-term success and nearly every aspect of a club's well being. I wish some owners and fans actually will have the balls to think really long-term and make safe, healthy decisions for the future despite not getting that instant, cheap high.

Now I'm just praying we will get 3p against Boro and some confidence to build on. :ole: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Call for Tan to replace Ole with Pulis '

Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:29 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Woodville Willie wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Woodville Willie wrote:I'm very worried here that many are suggesting our best bet is to bring in Tony Pulis to get promotion sorted out and then?.......
Sounds like a marriage of convenience where the promotion specialist comes in, secures the move to the PL and then gets swiftly moved out when there is a perceived dip in form as results aren't amazing in the hardest league in Europe.

Captain Marshall said prior to the Norwich game that it was an ok start so how can that have changed, just like that after a defeat to fancied top 3 opposition? Norwich were PL last year too so that one result is a daft barometer of success or team prospects.

It's like Dad's Army: Don't panic!!!!

:bluescarf:


Promotion specialist?


Oops! I'm a bad boy. Don't know what the hell I was thinking there. Lol. Old age doesn't come alone. :old:
Sorry. :notworthy:


Tell me about it! :thumbup: ;)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now where did I put that Zimmer frame?