WHY WOULD VINCENT TAN CHANGE ?

After reading a couple of posts and articles in the past few days, there is a growing suggestion that Vincent Tan or someone at the club is saying so at least that Vincent Tan is considering a return to blue, Hudson said so much in a recent interview and I hope like we all do that is true.

I was thinking about the reason(s) that Vincent Tan would turn us back to blue. A man who is convinced that red is lucky and has been brought up in a culture that red is considered to be associated with luck and happiness and good fortune.

If the team is doing well, like it was in the 2012/13 season and we got promoted then the decision to play in red will be, for Tan anyway, vindicated.

When we were promoted, we all heard Tan state 'Lucky Red!!', whatever your opinion of him, the man believes in it.

Now of course there is a counter argument against 'Lucky Red' and that was the relegation the followed our promotion.

So why would Tan change us back now or ever ?

I can only come to the conclusion that it would be a business decision only and factors on the pitch will determine the choice of kit colour.

I believe that kit colours are submitted to relevant authorities in April in readiness for the following season. Should Cardiff City be promoted or pretty damn close to promotion at the time kits are submitted then personally I do not see Vincent Tan changing from a predominantly red first team kit.

If Cardiff City are not looking so likely for promotion or totally out of the running then I believe that is when, if ever Tan did, we will turn back to blue.

Another unsuccessful season and the end of the price freeze, one could only imagine crowds dropping by thousands and the best business decision to try and entice supporters back on board with no financial impact on the club would be to return to blue. The only other way to try and fill seats would be to drastically drop ticket prices but I don't see that happening.

Whether my instinct is right or I am barking up the wrong tree, it is a double edged sword as I desperately want to see us return to blue but also want to see our club succeed.

Perhaps a late, late surge into what seemed like an unlikely place in the play offs on the last game of the season would be our best hope of achieving both if my instinct on a possible colour change be correct.

I believe he will turn us back to Blue....simply because it's the right thing to do.

I also think we should cut him a bit of slack.

I liked the reverse psychology of chanting Vinnie Tans Blue Army that was suggested.

good point carl but dont think promotion will be reason not to change back i think the protest (1927) and other factors are having more effect on his thinking! unless of course he is thinking of selling immediately we are promoted again and he wont bother to do anything but leave to new owners. he wins both ways

Carl,

My honest opinion is that Tan was told lies by people in the club. You know that as well as I do. People in the club told Tan that the change in colour would not be that much of an issue. That's why he's always said it's a minority against the rebrand.

He's obviously seen with his own eyes that it's much more man than that. Especially in recent months.

That's what I think, anyway.

Carl,

My honest opinion is that Tan was told lies by people in the club. You know that as well as I do. People in the club told Tan that the change in colour would not be that much of an issue. That's why he's always said it's a minority against the rebrand.

He's obviously seen with his own eyes that it's much more man than that. Especially in recent months.

That's what I think, anyway.

Ned, It is 100% that Vincent Tan was ill advised.

A Malaysian who worked at the club said recently to Annis and I that there is definite truth in the thought process that Vincent Tan doesn't want to lose face over the colour change and if Tan did change us back and stated he did rebrand us in the belief that the fans were 'ok' with it then this would help his decision.

I believe he will turn us back to Blue....simply because it's the right thing to do.

I also think we should cut him a bit of slack.

I liked the reverse psychology of chanting Vinnie Tans Blue Army that was suggested.

I know there would be many against singing his name but I liked the idea of it as well

I remember it being said that Tan can be the king of hearts and at the same time the king of diamonds.

He is as hard as a diamond in his head but he has a big heart and that is the way to appeal to Tan through his heart

I believe he will turn us back to Blue....simply because it's the right thing to do.

I also think we should cut him a bit of slack.

I liked the reverse psychology of chanting Vinnie Tans Blue Army that was suggested.

Same here

Vincent Tan's Blue and White Army is a cracking idea.It will show respect for the investment with the statement that with a revert to blue he would get the admiration he craves .Money can't buy that

After reading a couple of posts and articles in the past few days, there is a growing suggestion that Vincent Tan or someone at the club is saying so at least that Vincent Tan is considering a return to blue, Hudson said so much in a recent interview and I hope like we all do that is true.

I was thinking about the reason(s) that Vincent Tan would turn us back to blue. A man who is convinced that red is lucky and has been brought up in a culture that red is considered to be associated with luck and happiness and good fortune.

If the team is doing well, like it was in the 2012/13 season and we got promoted then the decision to play in red will be, for Tan anyway, vindicated.

When we were promoted, we all heard Tan state 'Lucky Red!!', whatever your opinion of him, the man believes in it.

Now of course there is a counter argument against 'Lucky Red' and that was the relegation the followed our promotion.

So why would Tan change us back now or ever ?

I can only come to the conclusion that it would be a business decision only and factors on the pitch will determine the choice of kit colour.

I believe that kit colours are submitted to relevant authorities in April in readiness for the following season. Should Cardiff City be promoted or pretty damn close to promotion at the time kits are submitted then personally I do not see Vincent Tan changing from a predominantly red first team kit.

If Cardiff City are not looking so likely for promotion or totally out of the running then I believe that is when, if ever Tan did, we will turn back to blue.

Another unsuccessful season and the end of the price freeze, one could only imagine crowds dropping by thousands and the best business decision to try and entice supporters back on board with no financial impact on the club would be to return to blue. The only other way to try and fill seats would be to drastically drop ticket prices but I don't see that happening.

Whether my instinct is right or I am barking up the wrong tree, it is a double edged sword as I desperately want to see us return to blue but also want to see our club succeed.

Perhaps a late, late surge into what seemed like an unlikely place in the play offs on the last game of the season would be our best hope of achieving both if my instinct on a possible colour change be correct.

Carl the reason he will change us back to blue will simply be a commercial one, the club is simply not selling any of the merchandice. I bought a winter coat from the club shop last week with a ticket price of £41.99 for £15 last week . a sale on winter clothes even before winter

I believe that kit colours are submitted to relevant authorities in April in readiness for the following season. Should Cardiff City be promoted or pretty damn close to promotion at the time kits are submitted then personally I do not see Vincent Tan changing from a predominantly red first team kit.

If Cardiff City are not looking so likely for promotion or totally out of the running then I believe that is when, if ever Tan did, we will turn back to blue.

Another unsuccessful season and the end of the price freeze, one could only imagine crowds dropping by thousands and the best business decision to try and entice supporters back on board with no financial impact on the club would be to return to blue. The only other way to try and fill seats would be to drastically drop ticket prices but I don't see that happening.

Quoting the Football League regulations: (to be found here: http://www.football-league.co.uk/regula ... 2125729#38)

"38.1 During the Close Season, the Executive shall obtain from each Club, in writing, details of its colours (shirts, shorts and stockings) and shall inform all other Clubs, Referees and Assistant Referees of such details. The colours so registered by each Club shall be worn for all Home Matches during the next following Season and no changes either in the colours or combination of colours shall be permitted during the course of the Season. Notwithstanding the aforementioned, each club is authorised on one occasion per Season to play a Home match in an 'away' or 'alternative' strip."

So, if this is in fact the rules we are playing by, it says that the colours have to be decided during close season, and not April. It´s also interesting to see that we could actually play in blue at home for one match. Why not the last home match of the season along with an announcement that we´ll be back in blue after the summer?

Carl the reason he will change us back to blue will simply be a commercial one, the club is simply not selling any of the merchandice. I bought a winter coat from the club shop last week with a ticket price of £41.99 for £15 last week . a sale on winter clothes even before winter

In interviews we´ve Tan stating that one thing that could make him walk away from the club, is the feeling of not being welcomed by the fans. It seams obvious to me that he actually cares about those anti-Tan chants. Being popular among the fans could be just as much a motivation for him to chance the colour back, as a pure commercial one.

Whatever Vincent Tan's personal views about the colour red, he must know that the re-brand had been a disaster. Every club in the country push their merchandise at the start of the season, but what have we got? Nothing. People say that the sale of merchandise is small change to Tan. Fair enough, but he's still a businessman. He didn't make his money by not selling stuff.

If he really is afraid of losing face in Asia, then there's not much we can do about that, other than continue the protests, and avoid the merchandise.

Last time I went into the club shop was at the Wigan game.It was truly dreadful. At this stage of the season, it should be packed with goodies, to tempt us. But nothing! Just last years stock that hasn't moved.

The rumours that Tan was badly advised persist. If they are true, then he's not really to blame. Does anybody know who these bad advisors are? Or is this another fairy tale?

Whatever Vincent Tan's personal views about the colour red, he must know that the re-brand had been a disaster. Every club in the country push their merchandise at the start of the season, but what have we got? Nothing. People say that the sale of merchandise is small change to Tan. Fair enough, but he's still a businessman. He didn't make his money by not selling stuff.

If he really is afraid of losing face in Asia, then there's not much we can do about that, other than continue the protests, and avoid the merchandise.

Last time I went into the club shop was at the Wigan game.It was truly dreadful. At this stage of the season, it should be packed with goodies, to tempt us. But nothing! Just last years stock that hasn't moved.

The rumours that Tan was badly advised persist. If they are true, then he's not really to blame. Does anybody know who these bad advisors are? Or is this another fairy tale?

Little Red Cap?

3 Words Financial Fair Play.

The lack of merchandise revenue is hitting hard.

Great idea to start singing " VTs Blue and White Army" as previously stated.

Canton to start and the rest will follow, maybe even the Grandstand

Great idea to start singing " VTs Blue and White Army" as previously stated.

Canton to start and the rest will follow, maybe even the Grandstand

Yes because I can see the Canton stand singing this