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OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:14 am

OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Saturday 6th Sept 2014

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: 'Shock' signing of Bruno Manga was the reason I let captain Mark Hudson leave Cardiff City

The Bluebirds boss admits he was surprised to see Manga sign for his club in the transfer window
Cardiff City boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has revealed it was the ‘shock’ signing of Bruno Manga which ultimately led to skipper Mark Hudson leaving the Bluebirds.

As he departed the Welsh capital after five years for Huddersfield, Hudson expressed frustration that he had been informed his services were not needed until just three days before the closing of the transfer window on Monday.

Solskjaer admitted the 32-year-old had been very much in his plans up until he landed Gabon international Manga for £5m from French club Lorient.

“I had been chasing Bruno for a long time and, to be honest, felt the chances of landing him were slim,” said Solskjaer.

“A lot of big, big clubs were after him, including an English side in the Champions League, so it came as a shock really when he said he was joining us.

“I know the standing Mark Hudson has at this club."

Solskjaer added: “He had not played last season until I came in and he played for me and then unfortunately he got injured. This season he has played and been great for us. Ultra-professional as you would expect.

“As soon as we knew Bruno was coming, I think it was the day before we played Fulham, I spoke to Mark and told him he could stay if he wanted, but he would really be back-up this season or he could move on.

“I knew really what ‘Huds’ would do because I know the kind of man he is. He is a leader. A man who needs to be out on the pitch, so he decided to move on.

“I intend to play tribute to the wonderful time Mark had this club in the programme for our Norwich game.

“I’m very aware what the man means to our supporters and as we have already said, we can only wish him the very best at Huddersfield and thank him for his service to Cardiff.”

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:09 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:"..... He is a leader. A man who needs to be out on the pitch, so he decided to move on. .....


So Hudson was told he could stay as backup but he chose to go. He could have stayed and fought.

Credit for wanting to play first team football but wasn't he in the same situation last year? Why didn't he go then?

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:14 am

At the start of last season he only had Caulker and Turner in front of him. One injury, suspension or loss of form and he was in.

This year its Turner, Morrison, Cala, and now Manga.. maybe Connolly too. He's right to leave.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:23 am

Hudson clearly says he was told to find another club 3days before the fulham game in the other thread I put up.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:26 am

Lawnmower wrote:At the start of last season he only had Caulker and Turner in front of him. One injury, suspension or loss of form and he was in.

This year its Turner, Morrison, Cala, and now Manga.. maybe Connolly too. He's right to leave.


Good point.

Connolly was obviously also available last season. Cala also arrived but by that time the window had shut and Hudson was not able to leave apart from, perhaps, on loan.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:29 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:Hudson clearly says he was told to find another club 3days before the fulham game in the other thread I put up.


So was he just told to find another club or was he told he could stay OR leave for first team football.

I suppose the fact that the option to leave is put in there you KNOW what the club wants you to do.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:30 am

Wayne S wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:Hudson clearly says he was told to find another club 3days before the fulham game in the other thread I put up.


So was he just told to find another club or was he told he could stay OR leave for first team football.

I suppose the fact that the option to leave is put in there you KNOW what the club wants you to do.

He says he was told to move on its been made a sticky now.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:41 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:Hudson clearly says he was told to find another club 3days before the fulham game in the other thread I put up.


So was he just told to find another club or was he told he could stay OR leave for first team football.

I suppose the fact that the option to leave is put in there you KNOW what the club wants you to do.

He says he was told to move on its been made a sticky now.


I know what he said but we also now know what Ole said.

One of them is saying Hudson had options, the other is saying he only had one option.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:03 am

They could both be telling the truth.

One mans options is another mans only choice type of scenario. Can't see ole saying gtfo.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:03 am

Wayne S wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:At the start of last season he only had Caulker and Turner in front of him. One injury, suspension or loss of form and he was in.

This year its Turner, Morrison, Cala, and now Manga.. maybe Connolly too. He's right to leave.


Good point.

Connolly was obviously also available last season. Cala also arrived but by that time the window had shut and Hudson was not able to leave apart from, perhaps, on loan.


Yeah and Connolly was seen as mainly a full back and last resort back up at centre half by Malky. hen you look back it really wasn't a good move to spend so much on caulker and really Malky should have been looking for 2 at maybe less cost.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:10 am

Svenman87 wrote:They could both be telling the truth.

One mans options is another mans only choice type of scenario. Can't see ole saying gtfo.


Completely agree.

It may be about different perception of the situation. Ole probably phrased his talk with Mark in such a way that he didn't directly say "you're not needed at this club". But when Mark heard he would probably get no chances in the first team this year, maybe not even in the cup, Mark would probably interpret that as "you're not needed - move on".

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:22 am

Svenman87 wrote:They could both be telling the truth.

One mans options is another mans only choice type of scenario. Can't see ole saying gtfo.

Thats just it you dont know who to believe :?

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:26 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Svenman87 wrote:They could both be telling the truth.

One mans options is another mans only choice type of scenario. Can't see ole saying gtfo.

Thats just it you dont know who to believe :?


Looks to me like it was, you can stay as cover, but I'm Ok to release you if that's not what you want. It's not 'forcing you out', but it's 'making you feel unwanted'.

That's never going to be satisfactory for a player of Hudson's standard.

As the lad says they would both be fair quotes in this case.

Re: OLE - WHY I LET HUDSON GO

Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:30 am

apocalypse wrote:
Svenman87 wrote:They could both be telling the truth.

One mans options is another mans only choice type of scenario. Can't see ole saying gtfo.


Completely agree.

It may be about different perception of the situation. Ole probably phrased his talk with Mark in such a way that he didn't directly say "you're not needed at this club". But when Mark heard he would probably get no chances in the first team this year, maybe not even in the cup, Mark would probably interpret that as "you're not needed - move on".


Yep, probably how it went down.

What happened to speaking your mind and meaning what you say?

Modern work practice's are passing me by. People in work skirt around the issues, make subtle digs with a smile on their face, are all touchy feely and give false praise linked to criticism.

And I get dragged across the coals for speaking my mind, upsetting people and being a miserable git.

Anyway less of my, I wish it was the 80's again, statement. Role on retirement.

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:41 am

Not sure what all the fuss is about here. Footballers come and go, Hudson was at best an average CB in the championship.
Nice guy but not near good enough. No pace, little technical ability( I'm being generous here) and you'll see milk turn quicker!
Way too many mistakes for top CB .I am pleased he's gone, the fact he's gone to Huddersfield I think tells everyone exactly where his career and ability are today.

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:48 am

Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Not sure what all the fuss is about here. Footballers come and go, Hudson was at best an average CB in the championship.
Nice guy but not near good enough. No pace, little technical ability( I'm being generous here) and you'll see milk turn quicker!
Way too many mistakes for top CB .I am pleased he's gone, the fact he's gone to Huddersfield I think tells everyone exactly where his career and ability are today.


I totally agree with you on all of this.

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:52 pm

Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Not sure what all the fuss is about here. Footballers come and go, Hudson was at best an average CB in the championship.
Nice guy but not near good enough. No pace, little technical ability( I'm being generous here) and you'll see milk turn quicker!
Way too many mistakes for top CB .I am pleased he's gone, the fact he's gone to Huddersfield I think tells everyone exactly where his career and ability are today.


and i think this above post encapsulates a lot of what is wrong with the modern day football fan.

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:03 pm

Ole has dealt with the situation well. He appreciates Hudson is a good CB at this level but we have better so told him you won't have much game time here and you'll only be back-up. Don't see why Hudson will have felt unwanted, with the injury problems Hudson has had with us then what can Ole do? He can't put his faith into him

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:03 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Not sure what all the fuss is about here. Footballers come and go, Hudson was at best an average CB in the championship.
Nice guy but not near good enough. No pace, little technical ability( I'm being generous here) and you'll see milk turn quicker!
Way too many mistakes for top CB .I am pleased he's gone, the fact he's gone to Huddersfield I think tells everyone exactly where his career and ability are today.


and i think this above post encapsulates a lot of what is wrong with the modern day football fan.


I'm hardly a "modern football fan". What exactly is one? Please explain your post.

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:10 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Not sure what all the fuss is about here. Footballers come and go, Hudson was at best an average CB in the championship.
Nice guy but not near good enough. No pace, little technical ability( I'm being generous here) and you'll see milk turn quicker!
Way too many mistakes for top CB .I am pleased he's gone, the fact he's gone to Huddersfield I think tells everyone exactly where his career and ability are today.


and i think this above post encapsulates a lot of what is wrong with the modern day football fan.


I'm hardly a "modern football fan". What exactly is one? Please explain your post.


P.S. Hudson had a contract until the summer of 2015.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hudso ... rn_1982%29

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:29 pm

Two own goals.. Ole matches Hudson goal

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:32 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Not sure what all the fuss is about here. Footballers come and go, Hudson was at best an average CB in the championship.
Nice guy but not near good enough. No pace, little technical ability( I'm being generous here) and you'll see milk turn quicker!
Way too many mistakes for top CB .I am pleased he's gone, the fact he's gone to Huddersfield I think tells everyone exactly where his career and ability are today.


and i think this above post encapsulates a lot of what is wrong with the modern day football fan.


I'm hardly a "modern football fan". What exactly is one? Please explain your post.


player that gave everything when he was here, captained us to the league title 2012/13. played well the season before. its a tendency of a modern fan to slag off players whenever they leave, for whatever reason they can come up with, no matter what that player did for the club, its all forgotten and they were rubbish all along, apparently.

you aren't just content saying he was 'not near good enough', but that he 'was at best an average CB in the championship'. embarrassingly wide of the mark. another trait of the modern fan is that they criticise from their armchair. you must be an armchair fan that hasn't seen him play for the past 3 years to come up with that ludicrous statement.

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:57 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Bobby Woodruff's long throw wrote:Not sure what all the fuss is about here. Footballers come and go, Hudson was at best an average CB in the championship.
Nice guy but not near good enough. No pace, little technical ability( I'm being generous here) and you'll see milk turn quicker!
Way too many mistakes for top CB .I am pleased he's gone, the fact he's gone to Huddersfield I think tells everyone exactly where his career and ability are today.


and i think this above post encapsulates a lot of what is wrong with the modern day football fan.


I'm hardly a "modern football fan". What exactly is one? Please explain your post.


player that gave everything when he was here, captained us to the league title 2012/13. played well the season before. its a tendency of a modern fan to slag off players whenever they leave, for whatever reason they can come up with, no matter what that player did for the club, its all forgotten and they were rubbish all along, apparently.

you aren't just content saying he was 'not near good enough', but that he 'was at best an average CB in the championship'. embarrassingly wide of the mark. another trait of the modern fan is that they criticise from their armchair. you must be an armchair fan that hasn't seen him play for the past 3 years to come up with that ludicrous statement.


You couldn't be more from the truth, in reference to myself,, if you think i haven't seen him play in three years :laughing6: .

And by your own adage, then why is Phil Dwyer still not playing for us?

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:12 pm

lets keep it simple, as you seem a simple chap.

how can you say he was at best below championship standard when a little over a year ago he captained us to the league title? plus, as recently as week or two ago he was too by the club he was an important part of the squad?

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:35 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:lets keep it simple, as you seem a simple chap.

how can you say he was at best below championship standard when a little over a year ago he captained us to the league title? plus, as recently as week or two ago he was too by the club he was an important part of the squad?


Less of the insults fella. First of all i didn't say it (although i agreed with what was said).

Secondly, he might have captained us to the championship, but then was hardly played last season, indeed,, was it not OGS that played him in the Premiership?

As for modern fans, how about modern football players?? Hudson is/was a typical example of this. A journey man through & through, going to the highest payer. When Dave Jones signed him Five years ago, MH was allegedly the highest payed player on the City payroll. Further contract extents would would have increased this,,,probably earning more a week than the average hard working people of this area earn in a year.

He had the option to stay this season & fight for his place,,,he chose to move on, he chose to for another fat pay day at another club,,he chose to leave our club!

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:55 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:lets keep it simple, as you seem a simple chap.

how can you say he was at best below championship standard when a little over a year ago he captained us to the league title? plus, as recently as week or two ago he was too by the club he was an important part of the squad?


Less of the insults fella. First of all i didn't say it (although i agreed with what was said).

Secondly, he might have captained us to the championship, but then was hardly played last season, indeed,, was it not OGS that played him in the Premiership?

As for modern fans, how about modern football players?? Hudson is/was a typical example of this. A journey man through & through, going to the highest payer. When Dave Jones signed him Five years ago, MH was allegedly the highest payed player on the City payroll. Further contract extents would would have increased this,,,probably earning more a week than the average hard working people of this area earn in a year.

He had the option to stay this season & fight for his place,,,he chose to move on, he chose to for another fat pay day at another club,,he chose to leave our club!


he wanted to stay though? obviously once any player is told 'you must find a new club' and has 5 players ahead of him in his position, he knows his time at the club is up.

and yet you say that he chose to move on, for another fat pay cheque. that is the typical knee jerk reaction of most fans, he showed 10X the commitment and leadership of most modern day footballers.

if i was him and i read stuff like that from fans, i'd be glad to be gone to be honest.

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:06 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:lets keep it simple, as you seem a simple chap.

how can you say he was at best below championship standard when a little over a year ago he captained us to the league title? plus, as recently as week or two ago he was too by the club he was an important part of the squad?


Less of the insults fella. First of all i didn't say it (although i agreed with what was said).

Secondly, he might have captained us to the championship, but then was hardly played last season, indeed,, was it not OGS that played him in the Premiership?

As for modern fans, how about modern football players?? Hudson is/was a typical example of this. A journey man through & through, going to the highest payer. When Dave Jones signed him Five years ago, MH was allegedly the highest payed player on the City payroll. Further contract extents would would have increased this,,,probably earning more a week than the average hard working people of this area earn in a year.

He had the option to stay this season & fight for his place,,,he chose to move on, he chose to for another fat pay day at another club,,he chose to leave our club!


he wanted to stay though? obviously once any player is told 'you must find a new club' and has 5 players ahead of him in his position, he knows his time at the club is up.

and yet you say that he chose to move on, for another fat pay cheque. that is the typical knee jerk reaction of most fans, he showed 10X the commitment and leadership of most modern day footballers.

if i was him and i read stuff like that from fans, i'd be glad to be gone to be honest.



Its all about opinions, & all opinions are welcome on this board,,,aren't they?

All players contracts come to an end at any football club, some sooner than others. That's the way it is, like it or not. As for your 10X commitment,,,,as you've guessed, i don't agree,,,but best of luck to him all the same.

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:17 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:lets keep it simple, as you seem a simple chap.

how can you say he was at best below championship standard when a little over a year ago he captained us to the league title? plus, as recently as week or two ago he was too by the club he was an important part of the squad?


Less of the insults fella. First of all i didn't say it (although i agreed with what was said).

Secondly, he might have captained us to the championship, but then was hardly played last season, indeed,, was it not OGS that played him in the Premiership?

As for modern fans, how about modern football players?? Hudson is/was a typical example of this. A journey man through & through, going to the highest payer. When Dave Jones signed him Five years ago, MH was allegedly the highest payed player on the City payroll. Further contract extents would would have increased this,,,probably earning more a week than the average hard working people of this area earn in a year.

He had the option to stay this season & fight for his place,,,he chose to move on, he chose to for another fat pay day at another club,,he chose to leave our club!


he wanted to stay though? obviously once any player is told 'you must find a new club' and has 5 players ahead of him in his position, he knows his time at the club is up.

and yet you say that he chose to move on, for another fat pay cheque. that is the typical knee jerk reaction of most fans, he showed 10X the commitment and leadership of most modern day footballers.

if i was him and i read stuff like that from fans, i'd be glad to be gone to be honest.



Its all about opinions, & all opinions are welcome on this board,,,aren't they?

All players contracts come to an end at any football club, some sooner than others. That's the way it is, like it or not. As for your 10X commitment,,,,as you've guessed, i don't agree,,,but best of luck to him all the same.


fair do's sorry for the earlier insult :ayatollah:

Re: OLE - " WHY I LET HUDSON GO "

Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:35 pm

No problem. :ayatollah:

For what it's worth, I thought Mark a decent & honest player,,,what you saw is what you got with him.
He was never a City legend by any stretch of the imagination,,,,he did his job, & that was that.

I will remember him in the same way as I will remember most of the many past City players that have left our club during the last five or six years, inasmuch as they we're hired to do a job,,which they did,,,& then they left,,,of there own accord.