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' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:59 am

Right,We all know what a great squad we have viewtopic.php?f=2&t=144783 :thumbright:

Would you continue to rotate the first 11? or try and keep to the same Back line and front line?

Who would you start upfront with?

Who would be your back 4 ?

Or are you happy to rotate the team every game?


Citys Squad
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=144783 :ayatollah:

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:08 am

With such a large squad Ole will have to rotate the squad. He learnt his trade from Fergie who very rarely kept the same starting line-up. That's modern football, it's a squad game. A settled starting 11 belongs to the history books, please recognize that and have faith in the manager! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:10 am

Brayford Manga Morrison Fabio for the defence. Any 2 of Jones, Guerra & macheda up top.

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:11 am

For me, I think we need a first choice starting 11.

My back four would be Brayford, Manga, Turner (when fit) and Fabio :ayatollah:

The two strikers have to be Macheda and Jones :ayatollah:

Brayford, Fabio and Jones have had good starts to the season. Manga was £5m so can't see him being rotated (although you never know with Ole. Turner was solid last time we were in the Championship and Macheda is a great goalscorer.

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:15 am

50/50 about sticking to the same 11 or using a rotation.

If you have a midget of a CB to play against then stck Kenwyn Jones up there plonk the ball on his head and ita a goal no problem. If you are up against a giant haystack of a defender then stick Maynard up there who will run through the guys legs to stick the ball in the back of the next no problem.

However if all your players are superior then stick with them no problem.

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:15 am

BlueGog wrote:With such a large squad Ole will have to rotate the squad. He learnt his trade from Fergie who very rarely kept the same starting line-up. That's modern football, it's a squad game. A settled starting 11 belongs to the history books, please recognize that and have faith in the manager! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree some managers today do this, but Ive always believed in a settled back 4 ?
I'm just interested if in if I am alone on this?

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:20 am

Forever Blue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:With such a large squad Ole will have to rotate the squad. He learnt his trade from Fergie who very rarely kept the same starting line-up. That's modern football, it's a squad game. A settled starting 11 belongs to the history books, please recognize that and have faith in the manager! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree some managers today do this, but Ive always believed in a settled back 4 ?
I'm just interested if in if I am alone on this?


I think the bog difference now is that full backs are expected to cover so much ground both defensively and going forward that they will be burnt out with no rotation. CBs should develop a partnership but full-backs nowadays will need rotating.

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:21 am

Solskjaer should be given a chance this season to do it his way,if he succeeds :ole: if he fails its :wave:

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:30 am

Forever Blue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:With such a large squad Ole will have to rotate the squad. He learnt his trade from Fergie who very rarely kept the same starting line-up. That's modern football, it's a squad game. A settled starting 11 belongs to the history books, please recognize that and have faith in the manager! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree some managers today do this, but Ive always believed in a settled back 4 ?
I'm just interested if in if I am alone on this?


Our biggest problem in previous years, including the promotion season, was that we operated with basically 13-14 players for all season and by February they were all fucked and we faded quciker than a cheap pair of jeans. With games basically being twice a week for the next two months I would much rather see the squad being rotated through to keep everyone fresh. The last few months of the Championship are the most important, we see it every year. Using rotation now will see us being fitter, faster and fresher than our rivals coming into the home stretch. Forward planning is what is happening here as well as a manager that is willing to adapt and set a game plan to combat the strenths of the oppostion, not just be stubborn and play the same way whether it is working or not. I am not saying I would want to see 6-7 changes each game, but between 1-3 changes is just enough to keep the squad fresh.

The way we play, our fullbacks are going to have to have a bit of rotation as they cover more ground than everyone else, it would be irresponsible to run them into the ground now. The CBs (and GK) on the other hand should be the rock around which the team is built IMO. I would pick Manga and Morrison and stick as often as possible unless fitness or drop in form dictates otherwise.

I think more often than not we will see 4 strikers used a game with substituions so that should keep most of those guys match fit. Then it is about managing the midfield.

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:15 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:For me, I think we need a first choice starting 11.

My back four would be Brayford, Manga, Turner (when fit) and Fabio :ayatollah:

The two strikers have to be Macheda and Jones :ayatollah:

Brayford, Fabio and Jones have had good starts to the season. Manga was £5m so can't see him being rotated (although you never know with Ole. Turner was solid last time we were in the Championship and Macheda is a great goalscorer.


I agree with this although I don't think we should write Javi off as a regular starter up front. I would like to see a bit more of him before picking the two you mentioned.

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:05 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:50/50 about sticking to the same 11 or using a rotation.

If you have a midget of a CB to play against then stck Kenwyn Jones up there plonk the ball on his head and ita a goal no problem. If you are up against a giant haystack of a defender then stick Maynard up there who will run through the guys legs to stick the ball in the back of the next no problem.

However if all your players are superior then stick with them no problem.


Great team talk Ian :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:44 pm

I reckon stats will prove that most teams that are successful keep the same back 4 :ayatollah:

I also believe that for players to jell and be able to work together better need to be playing together more :thumbright:

Hopefully Ole will find his best 11 and stick to them as he certainly knows how to buy the best out there and has made us a fantastic squad we can be proud of :thumbright: :ole:

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:02 pm

My team would be:

--------------------------Marshall--------------------------

-------------Manga------Morrison-----Connolly-----------

---Brayford---------------------------------------Fabio---

---------------Adeyemi--------------Ralls------------------

----------------------------Daehli---------------------------

----------------Jones----------------Macheda-------------


When Noone is fit again, my team would be:

--------------------------Marshall--------------------------

-------------Manga------Morrison-----Connolly-----------

---Brayford---------------------------------------Fabio---

---------------Adeyemi--------------Daehli------------------

----------------------------Noone---------------------------

----------------Jones----------------Macheda-------------

But whatever Ole decides, he must stick to a starting 11 and persevere with that 11 for a few games, then drop a couple of players if they don't perform. We supposedly have the best squad in the league, so the opposition should be worrying about us, not the other way around!

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:11 pm

Marshall

Brayford/Fabio
Morrison
Manga

Adeyemi
Dicagcoi

Noone
Daehli
Pilkington/Bergstaller

Guerra
Jones

Moore, Cala, John, Eikrem, Macheda

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:31 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My team would be:

--------------------------Marshall--------------------------

-------------Manga------Morrison-----Connolly-----------

---Brayford---------------------------------------Fabio---

---------------Adeyemi--------------Ralls------------------

----------------------------Daehli---------------------------

----------------Jones----------------Macheda-------------


When Noone is fit again, my team would be:

--------------------------Marshall--------------------------

-------------Manga------Morrison-----Connolly-----------

---Brayford---------------------------------------Fabio---

---------------Adeyemi--------------Daehli------------------

----------------------------Noone---------------------------

----------------Jones----------------Macheda-------------

But whatever Ole decides, he must stick to a starting 11 and persevere with that 11 for a few games, then drop a couple of players if they don't perform. We supposedly have the best squad in the league, so the opposition should be worrying about us, not the other way around!



I will go for the team when Noones fit :thumbright:

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:32 pm

Ketteringblues wrote:Marshall

Brayford/Fabio
Morrison
Manga

Adeyemi
Dicagcoi

Noone
Daehli
Pilkington/Bergstaller

Guerra
Jones

Moore, Cala, John, Eikrem, Macheda



Oozing with qualitiy :thumbright:

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:With such a large squad Ole will have to rotate the squad. He learnt his trade from Fergie who very rarely kept the same starting line-up. That's modern football, it's a squad game. A settled starting 11 belongs to the history books, please recognize that and have faith in the manager! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree some managers today do this, but Ive always believed in a settled back 4 ?
I'm just interested if in if I am alone on this?


Maybe keep the same back 4 as much as possible, and especially the center backs. But there will be a lot of running for the full backs, and they will need to be rested. I wouldn´t mind seeing Declan John been given a few run-outs.

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:50 pm

Dve wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:With such a large squad Ole will have to rotate the squad. He learnt his trade from Fergie who very rarely kept the same starting line-up. That's modern football, it's a squad game. A settled starting 11 belongs to the history books, please recognize that and have faith in the manager! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree some managers today do this, but Ive always believed in a settled back 4 ?
I'm just interested if in if I am alone on this?


Maybe keep the same back 4 as much as possible, and especially the center backs. But there will be a lot of running for the full backs, and they will need to be rested. I wouldn´t mind seeing Declan John been given a few run-outs.


Im with you on that and Declan John deserves at least the subs bench :thumbright:

Re: ' CITYS FRONT LINE & BACK LINE '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:03 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My team would be:

--------------------------Marshall--------------------------

-------------Manga------Morrison-----Connolly-----------

---Brayford---------------------------------------Fabio---

---------------Adeyemi--------------Ralls------------------

----------------------------Daehli---------------------------

----------------Jones----------------Macheda-------------


When Noone is fit again, my team would be:

--------------------------Marshall--------------------------

-------------Manga------Morrison-----Connolly-----------

---Brayford---------------------------------------Fabio---

---------------Adeyemi--------------Daehli------------------

----------------------------Noone---------------------------

----------------Jones----------------Macheda-------------

But whatever Ole decides, he must stick to a starting 11 and persevere with that 11 for a few games, then drop a couple of players if they don't perform. We supposedly have the best squad in the league, so the opposition should be worrying about us, not the other way around!


:thumbup: Exactly the teams I would put out. We can only make this team function with two strikers if we play with 3 centre backs. I also agree re the tinkering, no more than 1 or 2 changes for each game