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' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:51 pm

' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE/BEFORE THE NORWICH CITY GAME ? '


What is Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's strongest XI after transfer window signings?
Sep 03, 2014

By Gareth Rogers



The transfer window has closed and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has assembled a formidable squad of 29 players to lead the charge towards the Premier League. But who makes up his best XI?

Cardiff City manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has assembled a squad that has fans salivating about the prospect of another Premier League promotion party.

After an impressive summer of transfer business, some pundits are now claiming Solskjaer has the best squad the Championship has ever seen at his disposal.

But with 29 first team contenders all battling for action, Ole 'The Tinkerman' clearly has a problem. When the big games come around, who does he leave out?

Whether you think Ole tinkers too much or leaves your favourite player out too often, this is your time to send your message to the manager.

Take a look through the contenders for each position before picking your favoured team to face Norwich on September 13.


Number One :ayatollah:
Let's start with the easy position. Goalkeeper.

The transfer window has closed and David Marshall is still a Bluebird. Anybody who doesn't think Scotland's number one should be the Cardiff City keeper against his former club next week has probably never seen the Bluebirds play.



The case for the defence :ayatollah:
At right-back it's a straight fight between John Brayford and Matt Connolly, while Fabio and Declan John will be scrapping to start on the other side.

Then, when you look at the SIX centre backs, things really get interesting.

Mark Hudson has departed but Danny Gabbidon has returned to replace him. Player/coach Gabbidon will probably be happy to start off on the bench, but Juan Cala, Connolly, Ben Turner (when fit), Sean Morrison and Bruno Manga will all believe they have a strong case to start every game.

The big test of Solskjaer's management skills will be keeping all of these happy.





Caught in the middle :ayatollah:
If you think Solskjaer has a tough decision to make in the centre of his defence, take a look at his midfield.

Picking between Peter Whittingham, Kagisho Dikgacoi, Tom Adeyemi, Magnus Eikrem and Aron Gunnarsson as the holding midfielders looks like a tough enough call, without considering Joe Ralls, Mats Daehli and Guido Burgstaller, who have all impressed this season.

Could Peter Whittingham play further forward? Should Mats Daehli play in the number 10 role? The manager certainly has plenty to consider.




All you need is goals :ayatollah:
To win promotion to the Premier League, you need goals - and lots of them.

Former striker Solskjaer understands that and has assembled an embarrassment of riches in that department.

But who does he start with?

Who does he bring off the bench?

And, who does he leave out all together?

Kenwyne Jones' early season goal record seems to place him in the undroppable category right now but will it last? If it doesn't, Federico Macheda and Nicky Maynard will probably be kicking Solskjaer's door down for a game.

Even once he's decided on his number nine, the laid back manager has to decide on the position he knows best. The fox-in-the-box to play off the big man.

That, it would appear, seems like a tug-of-war between Adam Le Fondre and Javi Guerra, who have both shown excellent touches and an eye for goal this summer and throughout their careers. It would be easy to make a case for both, either or neither to start against Norwich, especially if Daehli can convince the manager to give him a run in behind the big man.

Who's forgotten about Etien Velikonja? He's been prolific in the development team since arriving at Cardiff City in 2012 and scored the winner when his chance came against 1860 Munich in pre-season.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:56 pm

le fondre and guerra have shown an eye for goal this summer have i missed something

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:07 pm

Hi Annis, sounds rediculous but i still think we need a class midfield general/creator and then we should definitely mean business. Perhaps a loan signing from a Premiership club when the window opens next week ? I still feel we are missing a player that others need guidance from on the pitch, good players but not a "team" yet.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:09 pm

Blue Steel wrote:Hi Annis, sounds rediculous but i still think we need a class midfield general/creator and then we should definitely mean business. Perhaps a loan signing from a Premiership club when the window opens next week ? I still feel we are missing a player that others need guidance from on the pitch, good players but not a "team" yet.


Good to speak to you at Fulham :thumbright: :ayatollah:

I will be very interested to see who is going to be our leader this season, we have quality all over,but I am still not sure who is capable of leading us?

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:12 pm

I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

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Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:13 pm

Annis, good to see you at Fulham, as you probably realised i had a few before the game as it was my birthday and of course i know that you are not Carl. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:14 pm

Blue Steel wrote:Annis, good to see you at Fulham, as you probably realised i had a few before the game as it was my birthday and of course i know that you are not Carl. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


:lol:

I did, good to see you enjoying yourself :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:15 pm

thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

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A Good line up there Thomas :thumbright:

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:26 pm

thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

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The fact you got whittingham in that team means it's a shit team with no creativity or drive. You need to re evaluate that.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:30 pm

The transfer window has closed but the loan window opens next Tuesday.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:37 pm

Forever Blue wrote:' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE/BEFORE THE NORWICH CITY GAME ? '


What is Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's strongest XI after transfer window signings?
Sep 03, 2014

By Gareth Rogers



The transfer window has closed and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has assembled a formidable squad of 29 players to lead the charge towards the Premier League. But who makes up his best XI?

Cardiff City manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has assembled a squad that has fans salivating about the prospect of another Premier League promotion party.

After an impressive summer of transfer business, some pundits are now claiming Solskjaer has the best squad the Championship has ever seen at his disposal.

But with 29 first team contenders all battling for action, Ole 'The Tinkerman' clearly has a problem. When the big games come around, who does he leave out?

Whether you think Ole tinkers too much or leaves your favourite player out too often, this is your time to send your message to the manager.

Take a look through the contenders for each position before picking your favoured team to face Norwich on September 13.


Number One :ayatollah:
Let's start with the easy position. Goalkeeper.

The transfer window has closed and David Marshall is still a Bluebird. Anybody who doesn't think Scotland's number one should be the Cardiff City keeper against his former club next week has probably never seen the Bluebirds play.



The case for the defence :ayatollah:
At right-back it's a straight fight between John Brayford and Matt Connolly, while Fabio and Declan John will be scrapping to start on the other side.

Then, when you look at the SIX centre backs, things really get interesting.

Mark Hudson has departed but Danny Gabbidon has returned to replace him. Player/coach Gabbidon will probably be happy to start off on the bench, but Juan Cala, Connolly, Ben Turner (when fit), Sean Morrison and Bruno Manga will all believe they have a strong case to start every game.

The big test of Solskjaer's management skills will be keeping all of these happy.





Caught in the middle :ayatollah:
If you think Solskjaer has a tough decision to make in the centre of his defence, take a look at his midfield.

Picking between Peter Whittingham, Kagisho Dikgacoi, Tom Adeyemi, Magnus Eikrem and Aron Gunnarsson as the holding midfielders looks like a tough enough call, without considering Joe Ralls, Mats Daehli and Guido Burgstaller, who have all impressed this season.

Could Peter Whittingham play further forward? Should Mats Daehli play in the number 10 role? The manager certainly has plenty to consider.




All you need is goals :ayatollah:
To win promotion to the Premier League, you need goals - and lots of them.

Former striker Solskjaer understands that and has assembled an embarrassment of riches in that department.

But who does he start with?

Who does he bring off the bench?

And, who does he leave out all together?

Kenwyne Jones' early season goal record seems to place him in the undroppable category right now but will it last? If it doesn't, Federico Macheda and Nicky Maynard will probably be kicking Solskjaer's door down for a game.

Even once he's decided on his number nine, the laid back manager has to decide on the position he knows best. The fox-in-the-box to play off the big man.

That, it would appear, seems like a tug-of-war between Adam Le Fondre and Javi Guerra, who have both shown excellent touches and an eye for goal this summer and throughout their careers. It would be easy to make a case for both, either or neither to start against Norwich, especially if Daehli can convince the manager to give him a run in behind the big man.

Who's forgotten about Etien Velikonja? He's been prolific in the development team since arriving at Cardiff City in 2012 and scored the winner when his chance came against 1860 Munich in pre-season.



Annis, you also forgot pilkington and noone where are they going to fit in.?????

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:50 pm

BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

image.jpg


The fact you got whittingham in that team means it's a shit team with no creativity or drive. You need to re evaluate that.


The fact you wouldn't have Whittingham in your team shows you either know nothing about football or you seriously need to re-evaluate your thinking on how football teams work .

He is a key player in this Cardiff squad which is proven by the fact he has played every minute of every game this year . ( and pretty much every other year since he has been here come to think of it )

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:10 pm

I have little confidence sadly in our manager getting his team selection right.

He has got it wrong in virtually every league game he has been in charge of.

Not on match have I read of the majority saying "he at last got it right."

That is why it is essential City bring in n experienced no 2.

C'mon Ole, prove me wrong :ole:

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:13 pm

Danny Says wrote:I have little confidence sadly in our manager getting his team selection right.

He has got it wrong in virtually every league game he has been in charge of.

Not on match have I read of the majority saying "he at last got it right."

That is why it is essential City bring in n experienced no 2.

C'mon Ole, prove me wrong :ole:


Ray Wilkins has just taken the Jordan national team job , he would have been perfect IMO

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:48 pm

You've only got to look at the differences of opinion here to see that whoever he selects will be wrong in the eyes of some supporters. Some will be happy with his selection, but those who disagree will be straight on here telling us how crap the tinkerman is. Whatever team he picks, he's going to be onto a loser as he can't please everyone with the number of players at his disposal.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:48 pm

OGS will not stop rotating. In Molde they always had a tough start, but later in the season this became a strenght to the team.

With so many games in this league combined that he actually has a broad and quality squad to use, this is a smart thing to do.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:10 pm

Blue Steel wrote:Hi Annis, sounds rediculous but i still think we need a class midfield general/creator and then we should definitely mean business. Perhaps a loan signing from a Premiership club when the window opens next week ? I still feel we are missing a player that others need guidance from on the pitch, good players but not a "team" yet.


Agree 100%. We can all see it...let's hope that Ole can too. :thumbup: :bluescarf:

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:25 pm

Looking at all of our players it is SO tough to pick our best starting XI. This is what I'd choose and the formation (4-1-2-1-2):

GK - David Marshall (100%)
RB - John Brayford (100%)
CB - Bruno Manga (hefty price tag - will surely be our most effective centre back?)
CB - Sean Morrison (just believe he has more potential than Ben Turner)
LB - Fabio (started the season decent but Declan John will be good too! So tough!!)
CDM - Peter Whittingham (experienced, hit a great goal against Huddersfield but think will be better here, great long passing)
RM - Craig Noone (100%)
LM - Anthony Pilkington (our only other quick winger apart from Kadeem Harris but surely Pilkington?)
CAM - Mats Møller Dæhli (so talented, great short pass, can keep the ball so well and in this position would be useful to strikers)
LS - Kenwyne Jones (100% - excellent start to the season)
RS - Adam le Fondre (proven goal scorer in the Championship, needs time, believe he'll score a lot eventually - think we are forced to play 2 strikers because we have so many! Big man-little man partnership)
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Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:04 pm

thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

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And that there is the formation I would like to see us employ :thumbup:

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:07 pm

cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE/BEFORE THE NORWICH CITY GAME ? '


What is Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's strongest XI after transfer window signings?
Sep 03, 2014

By Gareth Rogers



The transfer window has closed and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has assembled a formidable squad of 29 players to lead the charge towards the Premier League. But who makes up his best XI?

Cardiff City manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has assembled a squad that has fans salivating about the prospect of another Premier League promotion party.

After an impressive summer of transfer business, some pundits are now claiming Solskjaer has the best squad the Championship has ever seen at his disposal.

But with 29 first team contenders all battling for action, Ole 'The Tinkerman' clearly has a problem. When the big games come around, who does he leave out?

Whether you think Ole tinkers too much or leaves your favourite player out too often, this is your time to send your message to the manager.

Take a look through the contenders for each position before picking your favoured team to face Norwich on September 13.


Number One :ayatollah:
Let's start with the easy position. Goalkeeper.

The transfer window has closed and David Marshall is still a Bluebird. Anybody who doesn't think Scotland's number one should be the Cardiff City keeper against his former club next week has probably never seen the Bluebirds play.



The case for the defence :ayatollah:
At right-back it's a straight fight between John Brayford and Matt Connolly, while Fabio and Declan John will be scrapping to start on the other side.

Then, when you look at the SIX centre backs, things really get interesting.

Mark Hudson has departed but Danny Gabbidon has returned to replace him. Player/coach Gabbidon will probably be happy to start off on the bench, but Juan Cala, Connolly, Ben Turner (when fit), Sean Morrison and Bruno Manga will all believe they have a strong case to start every game.

The big test of Solskjaer's management skills will be keeping all of these happy.





Caught in the middle :ayatollah:
If you think Solskjaer has a tough decision to make in the centre of his defence, take a look at his midfield.

Picking between Peter Whittingham, Kagisho Dikgacoi, Tom Adeyemi, Magnus Eikrem and Aron Gunnarsson as the holding midfielders looks like a tough enough call, without considering Joe Ralls, Mats Daehli and Guido Burgstaller, who have all impressed this season.

Could Peter Whittingham play further forward? Should Mats Daehli play in the number 10 role? The manager certainly has plenty to consider.




All you need is goals :ayatollah:
To win promotion to the Premier League, you need goals - and lots of them.

Former striker Solskjaer understands that and has assembled an embarrassment of riches in that department.

But who does he start with?

Who does he bring off the bench?

And, who does he leave out all together?

Kenwyne Jones' early season goal record seems to place him in the undroppable category right now but will it last? If it doesn't, Federico Macheda and Nicky Maynard will probably be kicking Solskjaer's door down for a game.

Even once he's decided on his number nine, the laid back manager has to decide on the position he knows best. The fox-in-the-box to play off the big man.

That, it would appear, seems like a tug-of-war between Adam Le Fondre and Javi Guerra, who have both shown excellent touches and an eye for goal this summer and throughout their careers. It would be easy to make a case for both, either or neither to start against Norwich, especially if Daehli can convince the manager to give him a run in behind the big man.

Who's forgotten about Etien Velikonja? He's been prolific in the development team since arriving at Cardiff City in 2012 and scored the winner when his chance came against 1860 Munich in pre-season.



Annis, you also forgot pilkington and noone where are they going to fit in.?????



Paul, Blame Gareth Rogers I never wrote the article :lol: :thumbright:

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:16 pm

Good side there Thomas Blue. :ayatollah:

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:20 pm

I aint no manager thats why I dont pick a team, but just for the hell of it
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Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:22 pm

="Blue Steel"]Hi Annis, sounds rediculous but i still think we need a class midfield general/creator and then we should definitely mean business. Perhaps a loan signing from a Premiership club when the window opens next week ? I still feel we are missing a player that others need guidance from on the pitch, good players but not a "team" yet.[/quote]
I dont think it sounds rediculous I think it's a fair comment. The major thing we've lacked this season albeit in its infancy is a creator. With noone coming back soon hopefully it will help but that's only one player and would have rather a midfielder signed if we're spending silly money than a defender. If matts plays through the centre rather than out wide this could help also.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:10 am

thomasblue wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

image.jpg


The fact you got whittingham in that team means it's a shit team with no creativity or drive. You need to re evaluate that.


The fact you wouldn't have Whittingham in your team shows you either know nothing about football or you seriously need to re-evaluate your thinking on how football teams work .

He is a key player in this Cardiff squad which is proven by the fact he has played every minute of every game this year . ( and pretty much every other year since he has been here come to think of it )


Could say the same to you that you know nothing about football to have a 3 man central defense with john brayford a full back in and implement that tactic now which could see us being frail at the back, also we have been looking organized and pretty solid at the back thus far so only a numpty would change that.
As for whittingham your saying everyone else who don't rate him as a player no more (which there are many) your saying they don't have a clue about football or how football teams work)
Bit of a bull shit comment pal because last time I looked at all the top teams and players in midfield they don't pussy foot about in centre midfield like whitts does making little 5 yard passes from side to side, he has no urgency what so ever,never drives forward with the ball, never dribbles with the ball, never makes things happen and creates. He's got a sweet left foot and good at set pieces chipping in with a goal now and then but that's all he got. His overall play is not up to scratch. You tell me Thomas if he is as good as you are saying then why haven't a premiership club ever come in for him??
I'll tell you, because he isn't a complete midfielder and because of all of the points I've noted above.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:33 am

Don't know how dhaeli is at the moment but would agree that he should be in the middle with adeymi and dikgachoi around him to let him have a free role behind the forwards. I've commented previously on other threads about whitts and my opinion hasn't changed. Lovely bloke but doesn't do enough for me and for many others for a while now. How long is he to be afforded a role in the unit that's been the most disappointing so far.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:37 am

BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

image.jpg


The fact you got whittingham in that team means it's a shit team with no creativity or drive. You need to re evaluate that.


The fact you wouldn't have Whittingham in your team shows you either know nothing about football or you seriously need to re-evaluate your thinking on how football teams work .

He is a key player in this Cardiff squad which is proven by the fact he has played every minute of every game this year . ( and pretty much every other year since he has been here come to think of it )


Could say the same to you that you know nothing about football to have a 3 man central defense with john brayford a full back in and implement that tactic now which could see us being frail at the back, also we have been looking organized and pretty solid at the back thus far so only a numpty would change that.
As for whittingham your saying everyone else who don't rate him as a player no more (which there are many) your saying they don't have a clue about football or how football teams work)
Bit of a bull shit comment pal because last time I looked at all the top teams and players in midfield they don't pussy foot about in centre midfield like whitts does making little 5 yard passes from side to side, he has no urgency what so ever,never drives forward with the ball, never dribbles with the ball, never makes things happen and creates. He's got a sweet left foot and good at set pieces chipping in with a goal now and then but that's all he got. His overall play is not up to scratch. You tell me Thomas if he is as good as you are saying then why haven't a premiership club ever come in for him??
I'll tell you, because he isn't a complete midfielder and because of all of the points I've noted above.


Our defence has done ok , I wouldn't say solid . Plenty of times we have been cut open and have been lucky to get away with it this season .
Brayford can and has played centre back for other teams . He is a bit of a utility player in defence and can easily play a back 3 role using his pace as. Long as there is a big man next to him .
Pretty much every club has a whittingham , that type of player is needed to make the team tick .

Spurs - Christian erikson
Real Madrid - Luca modric
Barcelona - xavi
Man city - fernando
Liverpool - joe Allen

I could name more !

You very rarely see any of these players fly into tackles or take on 2/3 players , why ? Because that is not the job they are in the team to do !

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:04 am

thomasblue wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

image.jpg


The fact you got whittingham in that team means it's a shit team with no creativity or drive. You need to re evaluate that.


The fact you wouldn't have Whittingham in your team shows you either know nothing about football or you seriously need to re-evaluate your thinking on how football teams work .

He is a key player in this Cardiff squad which is proven by the fact he has played every minute of every game this year . ( and pretty much every other year since he has been here come to think of it )


Could say the same to you that you know nothing about football to have a 3 man central defense with john brayford a full back in and implement that tactic now which could see us being frail at the back, also we have been looking organized and pretty solid at the back thus far so only a numpty would change that.
As for whittingham your saying everyone else who don't rate him as a player no more (which there are many) your saying they don't have a clue about football or how football teams work)
Bit of a bull shit comment pal because last time I looked at all the top teams and players in midfield they don't pussy foot about in centre midfield like whitts does making little 5 yard passes from side to side, he has no urgency what so ever,never drives forward with the ball, never dribbles with the ball, never makes things happen and creates. He's got a sweet left foot and good at set pieces chipping in with a goal now and then but that's all he got. His overall play is not up to scratch. You tell me Thomas if he is as good as you are saying then why haven't a premiership club ever come in for him??
I'll tell you, because he isn't a complete midfielder and because of all of the points I've noted above.


Our defence has done ok , I wouldn't say solid . Plenty of times we have been cut open and have been lucky to get away with it this season .
Brayford can and has played centre back for other teams . He is a bit of a utility player in defence and can easily play a back 3 role using his pace as. Long as there is a big man next to him .
Pretty much every club has a whittingham , that type of player is needed to make the team tick .

Spurs - Christian erikson
Real Madrid - Luca modric
Barcelona - xavi
Man city - fernando
Liverpool - joe Allen

I could name more !

You very rarely see any of these players fly into tackles or take on 2/3 players , why ? Because that is not the job they are in the team to do !



Wow, that's certainly exalted comparissons you're making with Peter Whittingham there! - Do any of those players you mention ever happen to move forward with some pace with the ball at their feet or thread through defence splitting passes to set others up? .. because Whittingham certainly doesn't.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:09 pm

thomasblue wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

image.jpg


The fact you got whittingham in that team means it's a shit team with no creativity or drive. You need to re evaluate that.


The fact you wouldn't have Whittingham in your team shows you either know nothing about football or you seriously need to re-evaluate your thinking on how football teams work .

He is a key player in this Cardiff squad which is proven by the fact he has played every minute of every game this year . ( and pretty much every other year since he has been here come to think of it )


Could say the same to you that you know nothing about football to have a 3 man central defense with john brayford a full back in and implement that tactic now which could see us being frail at the back, also we have been looking organized and pretty solid at the back thus far so only a numpty would change that.
As for whittingham your saying everyone else who don't rate him as a player no more (which there are many) your saying they don't have a clue about football or how football teams work)
Bit of a bull shit comment pal because last time I looked at all the top teams and players in midfield they don't pussy foot about in centre midfield like whitts does making little 5 yard passes from side to side, he has no urgency what so ever,never drives forward with the ball, never dribbles with the ball, never makes things happen and creates. He's got a sweet left foot and good at set pieces chipping in with a goal now and then but that's all he got. His overall play is not up to scratch. You tell me Thomas if he is as good as you are saying then why haven't a premiership club ever come in for him??
I'll tell you, because he isn't a complete midfielder and because of all of the points I've noted above.


Our defence has done ok , I wouldn't say solid . Plenty of times we have been cut open and have been lucky to get away with it this season .
Brayford can and has played centre back for other teams . He is a bit of a utility player in defence and can easily play a back 3 role using his pace as. Long as there is a big man next to him .
Pretty much every club has a whittingham , that type of player is needed to make the team tick .

Spurs - Christian erikson
Real Madrid - Luca modric
Barcelona - xavi
Man city - fernando
Liverpool - joe Allen

I could name more !



You very rarely see any of these players fly into tackles or take on 2/3 players , why ? Because that is not the job they are in the team to do !


Christian eriksan xavi fernando modric an joe Allen are all completely different class to whittingham what you going on about pal!
I ain't saying whitts needs to fly into tackles or take 3/4 players on, all of them players you mentioned though are fast and urgent on the ball can dribble and move forward with the ball and also creative players who who make things happen, whitts dosent and as a lot of city fans agree with hasent done for a long time now.

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:45 pm

andythomas2 wrote:I aint no manager thats why I dont pick a team, but just for the hell of it
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I like this. But wud put macheda on though

Re: ' 10 DAYS FOR OLE TO DECIDE ? '

Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:23 am

BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I think this squad is set up for 3 at the back with two defensive midfielders sitting just in front providing cover .

That would allow us to use dahlei in his best position and still use two wingers plus whitts range of passing .

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The fact you got whittingham in that team means it's a shit team with no creativity or drive. You need to re evaluate that.


The fact you wouldn't have Whittingham in your team shows you either know nothing about football or you seriously need to re-evaluate your thinking on how football teams work .

He is a key player in this Cardiff squad which is proven by the fact he has played every minute of every game this year . ( and pretty much every other year since he has been here come to think of it )


Could say the same to you that you know nothing about football to have a 3 man central defense with john brayford a full back in and implement that tactic now which could see us being frail at the back, also we have been looking organized and pretty solid at the back thus far so only a numpty would change that.
As for whittingham your saying everyone else who don't rate him as a player no more (which there are many) your saying they don't have a clue about football or how football teams work)
Bit of a bull shit comment pal because last time I looked at all the top teams and players in midfield they don't pussy foot about in centre midfield like whitts does making little 5 yard passes from side to side, he has no urgency what so ever,never drives forward with the ball, never dribbles with the ball, never makes things happen and creates. He's got a sweet left foot and good at set pieces chipping in with a goal now and then but that's all he got. His overall play is not up to scratch. You tell me Thomas if he is as good as you are saying then why haven't a premiership club ever come in for him??
I'll tell you, because he isn't a complete midfielder and because of all of the points I've noted above.


Our defence has done ok , I wouldn't say solid . Plenty of times we have been cut open and have been lucky to get away with it this season .
Brayford can and has played centre back for other teams . He is a bit of a utility player in defence and can easily play a back 3 role using his pace as. Long as there is a big man next to him .
Pretty much every club has a whittingham , that type of player is needed to make the team tick .

Spurs - Christian erikson
Real Madrid - Luca modric
Barcelona - xavi
Man city - fernando
Liverpool - joe Allen

I could name more !



You very rarely see any of these players fly into tackles or take on 2/3 players , why ? Because that is not the job they are in the team to do !


Christian eriksan xavi fernando modric an joe Allen are all completely different class to whittingham what you going on about pal!
I ain't saying whitts needs to fly into tackles or take 3/4 players on, all of them players you mentioned though are fast and urgent on the ball can dribble and move forward with the ball and also creative players who who make things happen, whitts dosent and as a lot of city fans agree with hasent done for a long time now.

You said the top teams don't have a player like that . They do , yes I agree they are all better than whitts but that is irrelevant . The point is you need that player to come deep to collect off the defence and be able to turn and start off our attacks .His range of passing is fantastic and can pick out a player anywhere on the pitch . ( like the ones I mentioned ) .
He is in the team to do exactly that , not go and beat a few players or put in crunching tackles . He is the only player in the team capable of playing that role , without him we are a hell of a lot poorer and we will revert back to our centre backs lumping the ball forward every time we win it.
He is also the best dead ball specialist in the league by a mile , and probably one of the best in the premier league as well, without his crosses from corners and free kicks we would score a hell of a lot less goals .