EBOLA No Risk To General Public

Watch this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9fjgbDYWZE

You decide

Seems unlikely, it's a horrible virus but it's not really transferred that effectively (bodily fluids) so it's medical staff that are at highest risk.

It's about ensuring they can be fluid resuscitated and keep them in the game really.

Ebola has spread because unlike other outbreaks in history they are actively treating people, rather than segregating them until they die.

What a nasty little virus,
Ebola surely is.
It makes you bleed from all your holes,
and makes your skin go 'fizz'.

Ebola - the New World Order's way of achieving their ultimate goal of world depopulation to 500 million. Wait until it mutates to an airborne transmission state.

From CDC UK Ebola info sheet.

How is Ebola virus spread?
Infections with Ebola virus are acute. There is no carrier state. Because the natural reservoir of the virus is unknown, the
manner in which the virus first appears in a human at the start of an outbreak has not been determined. However,
researchers have hypothesized that the first patient becomes infected through contact with an infected animal.
After the first case-patient in an outbreak setting is infected, the virus can be transmitted in several ways. People can be
exposed to Ebola virus from direct contact with the blood and/or secretions of an infected person. Thus, the virus is often
spread through families and friends because they come in close contact with such secretions when caring for infected
persons. People can also be exposed to Ebola virus through contact with objects, such as needles, that have been
contaminated with infected secretions.
Nosocomial transmission refers to the spread of a disease within a health-care setting, such as a clinic or hospital. It occurs
frequently during Ebola HF outbreaks. It includes both types of transmission described above. In African health-care
facilities, patients are often cared for without the use of a mask, gown, or gloves. Exposure to the virus has occurred when
health care workers treated individuals with Ebola HF without wearing these types of protective clothing. In addition, when
needles or syringes are used, they may not be of the disposable type, or may not have been sterilized, but only rinsed
before reinsertion into multi-use vials of medicine. If needles or syringes become contaminated with virus and are then
reused, numerous people can become infected.
Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever Fact Sheet
Ebola-Reston appeared in a primate research facility in Virginia, where it may have been transmitted from monkey to
monkey through the air. While all Ebola virus species have displayed the ability to be spread through airborne particles
(aerosols) under research conditions, this type of spread has not been documented among humans in a real-world setting,
such as a hospital or household.

Seems unlikely, it's a horrible virus but it's not really transferred that effectively (bodily fluids) so it's medical staff that are at highest risk.

It's about ensuring they can be fluid resuscitated and keep them in the game really.

Ebola has spread because unlike other outbreaks in history they are actively treating people, rather than segregating them until they die.

More likely it has mutated to not kill the host so quickly. Outbreaks in the past has killed so quick that it didn't get time to spread outside a village. But it baffles me why they haven't stopped travel outside these Country's in question to limit it's spread. But also medicine and possible cures should be given to help these poor people. Virus's like these has the potential to kill millions around the globe. Unless the world health organisation respects this Virus it has the power to do us real harm.

Am I the only one thinking this Nurse that came back, forget the fact he is one brave Man with a heart of gold, but it cost 250.000 quid to bring him back. And if he recovers he is planning on going back OK with the proper equipment he would be OK but there is none in these countries and the chances of his contracting it again would be high. (Now I'm assuming he can catch it again) and it would be another 250.000 quid to bring him back again. Sounds like madness to me.

Ebola - the New World Order's way of achieving their ultimate goal of world depopulation to 500 million. Wait until it mutates to an airborne transmission state.

You are so so wrong.

Their ultimate goal is 678 million. Where did you come up with this 500 million rubbish ?

Am I the only one thinking this Nurse that came back, forget the fact he is one brave Man with a heart of gold, but it cost 250.000 quid to bring him back. And if he recovers he is planning on going back OK with the proper equipment he would be OK but there is none in these countries and the chances of his contracting it again would be high. (Now I'm assuming he can catch it again) and it would be another 250.000 quid to bring him back again. Sounds like madness to me.

that is exactly my thoughts.

i disagreed with your view of malky mackays conduct, but here you have taken the words out of my mouth. a conservative estimate of £20-30k a day to keep him quarantined like that with all the precautions.

all travel to the affected countries should be banned unless travellers are insured (at their own cost) to receive treatment at the affected countries.

the NHS needs a problem like this like a hole in the head.

Am I the only one thinking this Nurse that came back, forget the fact he is one brave Man with a heart of gold, but it cost 250.000 quid to bring him back. And if he recovers he is planning on going back OK with the proper equipment he would be OK but there is none in these countries and the chances of his contracting it again would be high. (Now I'm assuming he can catch it again) and it would be another 250.000 quid to bring him back again. Sounds like madness to me.

that is exactly my thoughts.

i disagreed with your view of malky mackays conduct, but here you have taken the words out of my mouth. a conservative estimate of £20-30k a day to keep him quarantined like that with all the precautions.

all travel to the affected countries should be banned unless travellers are insured (at their own cost) to receive treatment at the affected countries.

the NHS needs a problem like this like a hole in the head.

Well thank you sir but the real problems start when people from these countries return to the UK to go back to college or Unis. Then the threat is real. I may be harsh here but until this outbreak is stopped exit from these countries should be stopped. But I say again proper medical care is needed but unfortunately the yanks have ran out of there experimental drugs. And I can see why they didn't stock much as Ebola is constantly evolving and that is the frightening part of it. It's finding a way to survive and prosper and that means bad news for us.

Am I the only one thinking this Nurse that came back, forget the fact he is one brave Man with a heart of gold, but it cost 250.000 quid to bring him back. And if he recovers he is planning on going back OK with the proper equipment he would be OK but there is none in these countries and the chances of his contracting it again would be high. (Now I'm assuming he can catch it again) and it would be another 250.000 quid to bring him back again. Sounds like madness to me.

that is exactly my thoughts.

i disagreed with your view of malky mackays conduct, but here you have taken the words out of my mouth. a conservative estimate of £20-30k a day to keep him quarantined like that with all the precautions.

all travel to the affected countries should be banned unless travellers are insured (at their own cost) to receive treatment at the affected countries.

the NHS needs a problem like this like a hole in the head.

Well thank you sir but the real problems start when people from these countries return to the UK to go back to college or Unis. Then the threat is real. I may be harsh here but until this outbreak is stopped exit from these countries should be stopped. But I say again proper medical care is needed but unfortunately the yanks have ran out of there experimental drugs. And I can see why they didn't stock much as Ebola is constantly evolving and that is the frightening part of it. It's finding a way to survive and prosper and that means bad news for us.

i actually joked (bad taste i know), when they were speculating whether to bring him back or not, on the BBC, that they would bring him back and stick him in the tube.

well they proved me right on one count.

yes this person needs top care, but why bring him back and put so many at risk? yes the risk is low, and these frighteningly expensive measures are to keep it low, but there is still a risk. that alone should see no-one come back unless they are conclusively proven not to have EBOLA.

putting money aside, are people happy having someone brought back here with EBOLA? i'm not. only this persons loved ones would want him back here in the UK putting us at a (very low, i know) risk.

as you say, i think there are a few scare stories involving EBOLA in the pipeline.

Seems unlikely, it's a horrible virus but it's not really transferred that effectively (bodily fluids) so it's medical staff that are at highest risk.

It's about ensuring they can be fluid resuscitated and keep them in the game really.

Ebola has spread because unlike other outbreaks in history they are actively treating people, rather than segregating them until they die.

More likely it has mutated to not kill the host so quickly. Outbreaks in the past has killed so quick that it didn't get time to spread outside a village. But it baffles me why they haven't stopped travel outside these Country's in question to limit it's spread. But also medicine and possible cures should be given to help these poor people. Virus's like these has the potential to kill millions around the globe. Unless the world health organisation respects this Virus it has the power to do us real harm.

Nah, Ebola was treated with exclusion therapy, treating it is the cause of its spread this time. Plus improved transport links in the area have improved. The Virus will initially lead to hypovolemia needing fluid and inotropic therapy along with further organ support in the event of failure, ventilation, haemofiltration and electrolyte replacement (and of course antivirals). Trust me I know my shit here

As for quarantining the country, it's basically how micro or macro do you go? Never mind how feasible it really is. The people we know that have it are treated with extreme care, probably over the top really as transmission is through contact with bodily fluids so do you really need air tight seals on transport? Unlikely.


Urg this is a half assed response sorry I'm really tired but I don't think it will be much of a threat to the UK at large, it's treatment is going well for something stated as early in development. It would be interesting to see how the coalition or the government after this one copes with Ebola if it became quite bad, because the staffing alone would be expensive simply to keep the staff safe.

Nah, Ebola was treated with exclusion therapy, treating it is the cause of its spread this time. Plus improved transport links in the area have improved. The Virus will initially lead to hypovolemia needing fluid and inotropic therapy along with further organ support in the event of failure, ventilation, haemofiltration and electrolyte replacement (and of course antivirals). Trust me I know my shit here

But this is NOT a cure, just standard supportive treatment which is used in cases like renal failure!

As for quarantining the country, it's basically how micro or macro do you go? Never mind how feasible it really is. The people we know that have it are treated with extreme care, probably over the top really as transmission is through contact with bodily fluids so do you really need air tight seals on transport? Unlikely.

My concern is this is a category 4 biohazard and does pose a risk to the public why else would he be transported by the means that he did?

Urg this is a half assed response sorry I'm really tired but I don't think it will be much of a threat to the UK at large, it's treatment is going well for something stated as early in development. It would be interesting to see how the coalition or the government after this one copes with Ebola if it became quite bad, because the staffing alone would be expensive simply to keep the staff safe.

The published african death figures are no where near the total amount of deaths. So it leads to the question we have no cure so where does it end?