Cardiff fans: You just don´t get it!

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My cent about the rotation system.

Milan, Chelsea, Man Utd are examples of teams known for the rotation system. A smaller club doing the same, is Malmø, only one home goal (in tomorrow´s match against Red Bull Salzburg) from being the first Swedish team in 14 years playing in the CL. And they are winning the Swedish league by a mile.

The rotation system have many advantages: players not being worn out, happier squad, more competition, less injuries, less predictable, more dynamic, but as we have all seen so far this season, it makes it harder for the team to gel.

When you have a team gelling DESPITE of the rotation, THEN you´ll undoubtable have a huge advantage. But typically, it takes some time. Man Utd under Ferguson always did well in periods with a tight program (read: Christmas), and also - just as important - in the end of the season when everything was decided.

All of you who are so sceptic to Ole´s tinkering, based on the way the team are performing NOW, well, for me you only prove that you haven´t really understood the ups and downs with this system. Give it some time. You´ll change your minds early enough

Yep, I agree. Ole has one hell of a squad, and that depth will pay off in a league as fixture-congested as the Championship. This kind of strategy does need commitment, and the negative reactions early on while it's not as tight from the less wise among the fans is an acceptable sacrifice.

You only have to see the mauling in the playoffs against west ham to see what picking 14 players and sticking to it meant.

(Provocative title to get some clicks )

My cent about the rotation system.

Milan, Chelsea, Man Utd are examples of teams known for the rotation system. A smaller club doing the same, is Malmø, only one home goal (in tomorrow´s match against Red Bull Salzburg) from being the first Swedish team in 14 years playing in the CL. And they are winning the Swedish league by a mile.

The rotation system have many advantages: players not being worn out, happier squad, more competition, less injuries, less predictable, more dynamic, but as we have all seen so far this season, it makes it harder for the team to gel.

When you have a team gelling DESPITE of the rotation, THEN you´ll undoubtable have a huge advantage. But typically, it takes some time. Man Utd under Ferguson always did well in periods with a tight program (read: Christmas), and also - just as important - in the end of the season when everything was decided.

All of you who are so sceptic to Ole´s tinkering, based on the way the team are performing NOW, well, for me you only prove that you haven´t really understood the ups and downs with this system. Give it some time. You´ll change your minds early enough

by december we could have the most physically fit squad in the league, thats when it'll show!

I've said it earlier, come late september and we'll rock. Wish people could be a bit patient, its hillarious to read posts after a loss(Wolves). What really surprises me is the lack of possession so far, hopefully Diko will be our man.

I'm not sure what the fuss is about either.

We've played 5 games, won 3, drawn one and lost just one and that was an injury time own goal when we were looking like getting a point well against the run of play.

Too many people on here with anti Tan agendas and willing to blame anyone to add to their cause, even our manager and players.

I'm glad some people can understand that rotation is normal in football. It's the way Ole applies it that should be questioned.

In my opinion, when you play the opposition, you set up to match their strengths and the enviroment you're in. For example, say we're at home against a team like Brighton who are known for keeping possession. Then you would pack the midfield to break that rhythm up etc.

We lose our first game and Ole gets blamed for the loss after an individual error. People were still crying at Ole making changes even when we were winning

Im all for rotation but to change a back 4 after a clean sheet is silly.

The two full backs put an amazing amount of Kilometers's on the clock per game though......they will need resting

The two full backs put an amazing amount of Kilometers's on the clock per game though......they will need resting

After 4 games? No they don't they are both young and can play every game.

The two full backs put an amazing amount of Kilometers's on the clock per game though......they will need resting

After 4 games? No they don't they are both young and can play every game.

Agreed dropping brayford made no sense. I understand rotation but the back four more than anywhere needs consistency

You'll hear of strikers at other Championship clubs who'll be "in a rich vein of form" .. and back fours who have got "a great understanding together"... midfielders who "know each other's game inside out" - but thats hardly likely to happen under rotation systems.

Agreed. That's why we dropped off so badly under Jones and why we were so shit towards the end of the title winning season. I would much prefer to finish the season with a head of steam as that might then carry over to the following season.

I would much prefer to finish the season with a head of steam as that might then carry over to the following season.

That´s a good point at as well

you start rotation around mid season as this is when players start to get injuries,with having played only 4 games ole should not need to rotate..

you start rotation around mid season as this is when players start to get injuries,with having played only 4 games ole should not need to rotate..

But then again, you would have to put on players not match-fit.

you start rotation around mid season as this is when players start to get injuries,with having played only 4 games ole should not need to rotate..

But then again, you would have to put on players not match-fit.

every player in the squad should be match fit......they train to keep fit not get fit.....injures normally occur second half of season....so as i have said we are 4 games in players should be fully fit(except for any injuries picked up..a knock etc).....we dont need to protect players at this early stage....

you start rotation around mid season as this is when players start to get injuries,with having played only 4 games ole should not need to rotate..

But then again, you would have to put on players not match-fit.

every player in the squad should be match fit......they train to keep fit not get fit.....injures normally occur second half of season....so as i have said we are 4 games in players should be fully fit(except for any injuries picked up..a knock etc).....we dont need to protect players at this early stage....

Injuries occur during the 2nd half of the season? Why would that be for most teams? Perhaps due to not having a rotation which demands players to overdo it and in the end up injured during the 2nd half of the season.

Rotation works if the group believes in the goal over the personal glory. I think Ole has done well to get those type of players in.

you start rotation around mid season as this is when players start to get injuries,with having played only 4 games ole should not need to rotate..

But then again, you would have to put on players not match-fit.

every player in the squad should be match fit......they train to keep fit not get fit.....injures normally occur second half of season....so as i have said we are 4 games in players should be fully fit(except for any injuries picked up..a knock etc).....we dont need to protect players at this early stage....

I thought "match-fit" sort of implied that you actually had played some matches..

Well, anyway. A rotation system (per definition) is not about changing players when they are injured, and not even when they are out of form. The whole idea is to have a big group of players being able to step in at anytime during the season without the need of pulling out excuses like "give him a couple of games, he´s not match-fit yet".

But I accept there are different opinions, and mine might not be the right one. The main point with my post, however, was that you cannot conclude on whether the rotation system is working or not three games into the season. We will all be a lot wiser in a month or two.

you start rotation around mid season as this is when players start to get injuries,with having played only 4 games ole should not need to rotate..

But then again, you would have to put on players not match-fit.

every player in the squad should be match fit......they train to keep fit not get fit.....injures normally occur second half of season....so as i have said we are 4 games in players should be fully fit(except for any injuries picked up..a knock etc).....we dont need to protect players at this early stage....

Injuries occur during the 2nd half of the season? Why would that be for most teams? Perhaps due to not having a rotation which demands players to overdo it and in the end up injured during the 2nd half of the season.

Rotation works if the group believes in the goal over the personal glory. I think Ole has done well to get those type of players in.

Excellet points!

See a lot of fans complaining about Ole's constant changing of the line up, and if I'm completely honest, I can see both sides of the argument. However, as I don't have my coaching badges, have not been coached myself by one of the best British managers ever, have not played with and against some of the best players in the world, have nor scored in a European final, I will place my trust in the person who has done all of these things, a person who has forgotten more about football than I will ever know. I don't think I am the slightest bit qualified to offer any advice to OGS.

you start rotation around mid season as this is when players start to get injuries,with having played only 4 games ole should not need to rotate..

But then again, you would have to put on players not match-fit.

every player in the squad should be match fit......they train to keep fit not get fit.....injures normally occur second half of season....so as i have said we are 4 games in players should be fully fit(except for any injuries picked up..a knock etc).....we dont need to protect players at this early stage....

Injuries occur during the 2nd half of the season? Why would that be for most teams? Perhaps due to not having a rotation which demands players to overdo it and in the end up injured during the 2nd half of the season.

Rotation works if the group believes in the goal over the personal glory. I think Ole has done well to get those type of players in.

rotate the team in the second half of season to rest tired legs...at the start of the season the do not require a rest...why take players out of a game when they are playing outstanding football....do you remember turner winning man of the match only to be dropped next game....makes no sense to drop players for the sake of it...my idea is to keep the best starting 11 at this stage...then after 20 games or so...start to rest players..but just my opinion..