Simon Lim-was he sacked?

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

Gareth, let's say he was relieved of his duties,permanently.

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

Gareth, let's say he was relieved of his duties,permanently.

P45 and on first flight home.

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

Gareth, let's say he was relieved of his duties,permanently.

P45 and on first flight home.

He is working for a college in Cardiff now Gareth.

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

Gareth, let's say he was relieved of his duties,permanently.

P45 and on first flight home.

He is working for a college in Cardiff now Gareth.

I assumed that he came over from Malaysia as an associate of tan and when given his p45 he'd go back to his homeland.

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

Gareth, let's say he was relieved of his duties,permanently.

P45 and on first flight home.

He is working for a college in Cardiff now Gareth.

I assumed that he came over from Malaysia as an associate of tan and when given his p45 he'd go back to his homeland.

He lived and worked in London for a long time Gareth prior to becoming finance director at City and was involved in the hotel division of the Berjaya group.

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

Gareth, let's say he was relieved of his duties,permanently.

P45 and on first flight home.

He is working for a college in Cardiff now Gareth.

I assumed that he came over from Malaysia as an associate of tan and when given his p45 he'd go back to his homeland.

He lived and worked in London for a long time Gareth prior to becoming finance director at City and was involved in the hotel division of the Berjaya group.

Thanks for the info.

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

Gareth, let's say he was relieved of his duties,permanently.

P45 and on first flight home.

He is working for a college in Cardiff now Gareth.

I assumed that he came over from Malaysia as an associate of tan and when given his p45 he'd go back to his homeland.

He lived and worked in London for a long time Gareth prior to becoming finance director at City and was involved in the hotel division of the Berjaya group.

Thanks for the info.

No probs Gareth

I remember him saying as much in a meeting I attended along with others.

Quite interesting to read back on an update that I wrote at the back end of 2012.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95459

All this talk of payment to agents(600k) has got me thinking. I can't imagine that any payments were made illegally via the proverbial brown envelope. However someone at the club clearly sanctioned these payments at boardroom level. Is it a coincidence that lim left in the summer and a transfer committee was set up or have I got it totally wrong again?

Gareth, let's say he was relieved of his duties,permanently.

P45 and on first flight home.

He is working for a college in Cardiff now Gareth.

I assumed that he came over from Malaysia as an associate of tan and when given his p45 he'd go back to his homeland.

He lived and worked in London for a long time Gareth prior to becoming finance director at City and was involved in the hotel division of the Berjaya group.

Thanks for the info.

No probs Gareth

I remember him saying as much in a meeting I attended along with others.

Quite interesting to read back on an update that I wrote at the back end of 2012.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95459

Interesting read.

Very interesting Carl and it only strengthens my argument that nothing has gone on here regarding payments. Simon Lim would know about the consequences bearing in mind he's an accountant and has been for many years in this country. He wouldn't put himself at such a risk

Very interesting Carl and it only strengthens my argument that nothing has gone on here regarding payments. Simon Lim would know about the consequences bearing in mind he's an accountant and has been for many years in this country. He wouldn't put himself at such a risk

The past few days have been difficult for all of us to try and put things in to perspective and sieve through what is possibly fact and what is absolute media shit stirring.

Nobody can deny that Malky is guilty of sending offensive and racist texts,whether they were private or not he wrote the words and that says much about the man. It is inexcusable and cannot and should not be defended.

What concerns me is the suggestion of fraud, bungs, on the take or brown envelopes concerning Malky Mackay, I cannot accept that this went on under the nose of Vincent Tan and before the eyes of Simon Lim.

Some are saying that Malky was issued the 'walk away with your dignity or be sacked and have your name tarnished' ultimatum because the club were aware of financial irregularities that took place. Again I do not accept that as the case at that time otherwise people like Borley and Whiteley would not have been supportive of Malky at the time.

There is no way a current director would have been seen, publicly anyway, alongside a manager who the club's senior management and it's directors believed or had evidence that he was taking out of the club.

Of course it could be suggested that maybe certain directors weren't aware, if it was indeed true that Mackay was on the take, but can we honestly accept that a board of directors wouldn't be told of such matters.

I believe that Tan was not happy with the amount that was spent and on which players the high fees were paid but I don't believe that Malky was involved in bungs or anything of the sort.

I feel at the end of this saga it will be about interpretation.

Traditional football meets new business and culture.

Remember we have had a whole host of investigations about managers and senior figures taking cuts on transfer deals. To the outside world of modern business this may appear if not illegal at least unethical, but perfectly normal in the murky world of football.

The premier league and football has fallen over backwards to get this fresh money into the game, ignoring past histories and offences of the new owners, but blatantly fails them when they cry foul.

I think Vinny is suffering from the institutional corruption of football, after all its his money that's getting sieved. They do try to sweep it under the carpet.....

That's exactly what I have been thinking/saying all along.

Tan is a businessman and when a businessman see that his money has been wasted on bad signings then hes bound to be pissed off but bad signings hasn't anything to do with fraud or brown envelopes etc.

Tan knows that there is further payments required from those signings and doesn't want to make them so he cries foul in an attempt to try and stop those further payments so he gets the court order to raid the houses and comes across nothing apart from a handful of texts.

This will come back on Tan either way it goes:

(a) Financial wrongdoings have been found and because its Tans company then he should publicly apologise for not having his finger on the pulse and is therefore indirectly responsible for payments going to unknown bank accounts

or

(b) Nothing is found apart from these texts which will show Tan as nothing but a vindictive c**t

That's exactly what I have been thinking/saying all along.

Tan is a businessman and when a businessman see that his money has been wasted on bad signings then hes bound to be pissed off but bad signings hasn't anything to do with fraud or brown envelopes etc.

Tan knows that there is further payments required from those signings and doesn't want to make them so he cries foul in an attempt to try and stop those further payments so he gets the court order to raid the houses and comes across nothing apart from a handful of texts.

This will come back on Tan either way it goes:

(a) Financial wrongdoings have been found and because its Tans company then he should publicly apologise for not having his finger on the pulse and is therefore indirectly responsible for payments going to unknown bank accounts

or

(b) Nothing is found apart from these texts which will show Tan as nothing but a vindictive c**t

or

(c) evidence of bungs intentionally concealed by someone are found which will show YOU as nothing but a bigoted idiot (once again)

That's exactly what I have been thinking/saying all along.

Tan is a businessman and when a businessman see that his money has been wasted on bad signings then hes bound to be pissed off but bad signings hasn't anything to do with fraud or brown envelopes etc.

Tan knows that there is further payments required from those signings and doesn't want to make them so he cries foul in an attempt to try and stop those further payments so he gets the court order to raid the houses and comes across nothing apart from a handful of texts.

This will come back on Tan either way it goes:

(a) Financial wrongdoings have been found and because its Tans company then he should publicly apologise for not having his finger on the pulse and is therefore indirectly responsible for payments going to unknown bank accounts

or

(b) Nothing is found apart from these texts which will show Tan as nothing but a vindictive c**t

or

(c) evidence of bungs intentionally concealed by someone are found which will show YOU as nothing but a bigoted idiot (once again)

that would go back to (a) wouldn't it as Tans finger was off the pulse and wasn't keeping an eye on his business. There is such a thing as Corporate financial mismanagement you know.

Personally if Simon Lim is still in the country conducting other business and has been an accountant in the UK for a good number of years hes confident enough that theres been no wrongdoing here.

That's exactly what I have been thinking/saying all along.

Tan is a businessman and when a businessman see that his money has been wasted on bad signings then hes bound to be pissed off but bad signings hasn't anything to do with fraud or brown envelopes etc.

Tan knows that there is further payments required from those signings and doesn't want to make them so he cries foul in an attempt to try and stop those further payments so he gets the court order to raid the houses and comes across nothing apart from a handful of texts.

This will come back on Tan either way it goes:

(a) Financial wrongdoings have been found and because its Tans company then he should publicly apologise for not having his finger on the pulse and is therefore indirectly responsible for payments going to unknown bank accounts

or

(b) Nothing is found apart from these texts which will show Tan as nothing but a vindictive c**t

or

(c) evidence of bungs intentionally concealed by someone are found which will show YOU as nothing but a bigoted idiot (once again)

that would go back to (a) wouldn't it as Tans finger was off the pulse and wasn't keeping an eye on his business. There is such a thing as Corporate financial mismanagement you know.

Personally if Simon Lim is still in the country conducting other business and has been an accountant in the UK for a good number of years hes confident enough that theres been no wrongdoing here.

Military Junta say nothing is best.. You haven't got a clue how to run a business yourself and there is no wonder yours is crumbling in front of your eyes if you work like this!