Whitts

Why is it that whitts is always playing to deep,never wants to go forward,it seems he is still playing the same type of football that Malky played,We should have sold him this year because the negative football he plays

The reason he comes deep is to collect the ball off the defence and start our attacking phases . Without a player coming deep to collect we resort to route one football .

Whittingham is one of the best if not the best midfielder in this division .
Whittingham played in his correct position with the right people around him can be an outstanding talent . His range of passing and dead ball precision is bordering on world class at times . He has many flaws in his game ( like many players similar to his style ) which can be dealt with by choosing the right formation and players around him .

Most of our goals either come from a dead ball situation supplied by him or a great pass from midfield from him .

In my eyes he has to play every game and with dikgachoi and adayemi around him he will shine in this league .

The reason he comes deep is to collect the ball off the defence and start our attacking phases . Without a player coming deep to collect we resort to route one football .

Whittingham is one of the best if not the best midfielder in this division .
Whittingham played in his correct position with the right people around him can be an outstanding talent . His range of passing and dead ball precision is bordering on world class at times . He has many flaws in his game ( like many players similar to his style ) which can be dealt with by choosing the right formation and players around him .

Most of our goals either come from a dead ball situation supplied by him or a great pass from midfield from him .

In my eyes he has to play every game and with dikgachoi and adayemi around him he will shine in this league .

Just how many times have I heard this mantra???

The reason he comes deep is to collect the ball off the defence and start our attacking phases . Without a player coming deep to collect we resort to route one football .

Whittingham is one of the best if not the best midfielder in this division .
Whittingham played in his correct position with the right people around him can be an outstanding talent . His range of passing and dead ball precision is bordering on world class at times . He has many flaws in his game ( like many players similar to his style ) which can be dealt with by choosing the right formation and players around him .

Most of our goals either come from a dead ball situation supplied by him or a great pass from midfield from him .

In my eyes he has to play every game and with dikgachoi and adayemi around him he will shine in this league .

Just how many times have I heard this mantra???

Whitts is fu..ing useless
When everyone is fit we will play noone digikqo ademymi and pilkington sorry about (spelling)
With Brayford and fabio supporting the 2wingers
IMO I can't wait to see jones and macheda in front of that 6 with any 2from Morrison Hudson Connelly cala and turner doing the centre back duties
So I would like to see us get another winger and one more midfielder who has pace a good tackler and comfortable on the ball in case ademymi or digiqoi gets injured
With dehlie le fondre whitts guerra kimbo eikrem sharing the subs job as possible game changers
Think 442 at home and away but on occasions going 451 where needed
IMO our biggest problem is lack of pace all over the park

Fabio was getting bossed so he was back helping him.

You obviously didn't go to the game whitts gave fabio no help what so ever ffs

Whitts is fu..ing useless
When everyone is fit we will play noone digikqo ademymi and pilkington sorry about (spelling)
With Brayford and fabio supporting the 2wingers
IMO I can't wait to see jones and macheda in front of that 6 with any 2from Morrison Hudson Connelly cala and turner doing the centre back duties
So I would like to see us get another winger and one more midfielder who has pace a good tackler and comfortable on the ball in case ademymi or digiqoi gets injured
With dehlie le fondre whitts guerra kimbo eikrem sharing the subs job as possible game changers
Think 442 at home and away but on occasions going 451 where needed
IMO our biggest problem is lack of pace all over the park

A line up with dikacoi, adeyemi, noone and pilkington gives you power and pace. But whose gonna pull the strings? No playmaker whatsoever in that line up. You need a good football brain in the team too.

Why is it that whitts is always playing to deep,never wants to go forward,it seems he is still playing the same type of football that Malky played,We should have sold him this year because the negative football he plays

It's not the negative football he plays through choice.
He obviously plays where the manager tells him to.

The reason he comes deep is to collect the ball off the defence and start our attacking phases . Without a player coming deep to collect we resort to route one football .

Whittingham is one of the best if not the best midfielder in this division .
Whittingham played in his correct position with the right people around him can be an outstanding talent . His range of passing and dead ball precision is bordering on world class at times . He has many flaws in his game ( like many players similar to his style ) which can be dealt with by choosing the right formation and players around him .

Most of our goals either come from a dead ball situation supplied by him or a great pass from midfield from him .

In my eyes he has to play every game and with dikgachoi and adayemi around him he will shine in this league .

Just how many times have I heard this mantra???

Probably about the same number of times as you double post everything!

Well my oppinion is the wingers get foreward and put the crosses in the box for the strikers those two in midfield just need to get the ball to the wingers
I know it's a bit basic and simple
And with jones and macheda we have the long ball option when needed
IMO don't go along with all this has a great pass record good at dead ball etc etc if you looked at whitts passing you would find most of it is side ways backwards or back from where it came
Yesterday's best corner for us was taken by pilkington

I watched Whitts quite closely yesterday and he had a poor game.

In fairness to him he was certainly not the only one but he seems to be lacking in confidence as almost every time he had the ball his first thought was to play it backwards.

However he did play a lovely ball into Kenwyne to blast striaght at the goalie form 8 yards.

Adeyemi and Gunnarson couldn't pass for shit, doesnt matter how many great runs the strikers make if the midfielders can't pass the ball accurately. Precision and quality is just as important as pace and power. We had no possession yesterday and created eff all. Not because Whitts is shit or not athletic enough, but because the quality of passing was crap.

Whitts is fu..ing useless
When everyone is fit we will play noone digikqo ademymi and pilkington sorry about (spelling)
With Brayford and fabio supporting the 2wingers
IMO I can't wait to see jones and macheda in front of that 6 with any 2from Morrison Hudson Connelly cala and turner doing the centre back duties
So I would like to see us get another winger and one more midfielder who has pace a good tackler and comfortable on the ball in case ademymi or digiqoi gets injured
With dehlie le fondre whitts guerra kimbo eikrem sharing the subs job as possible game changers
Think 442 at home and away but on occasions going 451 where needed
IMO our biggest problem is lack of pace all over the park

A line up with dikacoi, adeyemi, noone and pilkington gives you power and pace. But whose gonna pull the strings? No playmaker whatsoever in that line up. You need a good football brain in the team too.

Agree with this but really don't think whitts is the answer hasn't played consistent for ages. Don't know if it's worth dhaeli playing in the middle as he's not a winger in my eyes. I don't think whitts is useless but how some posters think he's the best midfielder in the division baffles me. Troobloos line up is pretty spot on with the current squad we have when fit.

thanks c blue

I understand most of the posters on this forum go back to dungeon level football, so an artist is a bit hard to appreciate. Gunnar tries hard but rarely successfully remove the ball from the opposition and can't pass, but a lot on here love him.

we had 2 running strikers yesterday but the central midfield couldn't find the runs. On came Jones and the reliance of finding a pass reduced. The pass for Jones's chance came from guess who ?????

The reason Whitts is still with us and not top half premier league is his lack of athleticism, the same reason Medel went to Italy. Technically he is our most talented player, Matts may develop to be but on end product has still a way to go.

Away from home two stoppers and Guido and Pilkington may be the answer if Ole thinks we can play with two up front. Yesterday Tom A was caught out up field loads of times and Whitts dropped to cover, because he reads the game better than the armchair coaches.

Ole needs to find another guy who can pass and not just guess and put some sympathy on the ball for the precipitant.

You only have to listen to our last three managers and former players to know that he is the best footballer at our club and I don't think many would argue against it. Also his loyalty to this club his admirable.However if he's that influential can someone name the last time he had two good games in a row. He has isolated events in games and as it's been pointed out he supplied the pass for Jones chance but surely he needs to do more than that to justify this city legend tag that has been bestowed on him. Would love to praise him up but it's been a while for me where he warrants automatic inclusion.

agreed on the above posts, but during the game how many key passes were made not by Whitts ?

I wanted to say earlier but went in a different direction, I have always doubted his ability to be a workhorse and three games in a week I believe is too much for him. He never finished the season strong, and I believe he is a 30 game a season player. With that in mind Ole appears to be the best manager for him, but I fear Ole's passing style may not be as effective without him and over play him as our last two managers have.

The reason he comes deep is to collect the ball off the defence and start our attacking phases . Without a player coming deep to collect we resort to route one football .

Whittingham is one of the best if not the best midfielder in this division .
Whittingham played in his correct position with the right people around him can be an outstanding talent . His range of passing and dead ball precision is bordering on world class at times . He has many flaws in his game ( like many players similar to his style ) which can be dealt with by choosing the right formation and players around him .

Most of our goals either come from a dead ball situation supplied by him or a great pass from midfield from him .

In my eyes he has to play every game and with dikgachoi and adayemi around him he will shine in this league .

have to disagree,whitts is far from being that player...

The reason he comes deep is to collect the ball off the defence and start our attacking phases . Without a player coming deep to collect we resort to route one football .

Whittingham is one of the best if not the best midfielder in this division .
Whittingham played in his correct position with the right people around him can be an outstanding talent . His range of passing and dead ball precision is bordering on world class at times . He has many flaws in his game ( like many players similar to his style ) which can be dealt with by choosing the right formation and players around him .

Most of our goals either come from a dead ball situation supplied by him or a great pass from midfield from him .

In my eyes he has to play every game and with dikgachoi and adayemi around him he will shine in this league .

have to disagree,whitts is far from being that player...

He kind of is. As long as the other players keep hoofing the ball we rely on whitts. We don't create anything through playing good football so Whitts set pieces are invaluable. We don't play through the middle and only look dangerous on set pieces and corners. Now if they could start playing the ball on the ground maybe he wouldn't be so important…..

Whitts is the best and most creative player we have. Most teams with creative players have other midfielders who can hunt down the ball and give it to the creative man. We have not got that...Gunnarson works hard but doesn't win the ball often, Adeyemi will be good but at present wonders off up field, so Whitts is trying to get the ball himself and be creative. I know many people do not rate him but he has a superb range of pass, excellent dead ball skills etc. We would be much poorer without him.

Our midfield hasn't been effective for four seasons the common denominator is whitts

Our midfield hasn't been effective for four seasons the common denominator is whitts

I think our midfield has been poor for 8out of the last 9 years or so and not just down to whitts. Who can forget mcphail and Rae getting overrun constantly. He's the most creative player we've got but he needs someone else in the squad to ease the burden on him on the creativity side especially now Mutch as gone. He needs to up his game soon and perhaps a couple of goals and assists will help him on his way. Our current midfield just doesn't excite me and that's not just down to whitts.

Whitts is fu..ing useless
When everyone is fit we will play noone digikqo ademymi and pilkington sorry about (spelling)
With Brayford and fabio supporting the 2wingers
IMO I can't wait to see jones and macheda in front of that 6 with any 2from Morrison Hudson Connelly cala and turner doing the centre back duties
So I would like to see us get another winger and one more midfielder who has pace a good tackler and comfortable on the ball in case ademymi or digiqoi gets injured
With dehlie le fondre whitts guerra kimbo eikrem sharing the subs job as possible game changers
Think 442 at home and away but on occasions going 451 where needed
IMO our biggest problem is lack of pace all over the park

A line up with dikacoi, adeyemi, noone and pilkington gives you power and pace. But whose gonna pull the strings? No playmaker whatsoever in that line up. You need a good football brain in the team too.

You need the kind of passes that Eikrem delivered to Le Fondre and Maynard respectively against Wolfsburg and Coventry. Eikrem should take Whitts' place by now, he doesn't seem to have the 'spark' right now that Eikrem has. Eikrem might often have been inconsistent over the duration of a full game, but that's only because he's given too few. I think Ole needs to solidify Eikrem into the team sooner rather than later, and give Whitts a break to clear his mind as he just seems disillusioned to me.

Whitts is fu..ing useless
When everyone is fit we will play noone digikqo ademymi and pilkington sorry about (spelling)
With Brayford and fabio supporting the 2wingers
IMO I can't wait to see jones and macheda in front of that 6 with any 2from Morrison Hudson Connelly cala and turner doing the centre back duties
So I would like to see us get another winger and one more midfielder who has pace a good tackler and comfortable on the ball in case ademymi or digiqoi gets injured
With dehlie le fondre whitts guerra kimbo eikrem sharing the subs job as possible game changers
Think 442 at home and away but on occasions going 451 where needed
IMO our biggest problem is lack of pace all over the park

A line up with dikacoi, adeyemi, noone and pilkington gives you power and pace. But whose gonna pull the strings? No playmaker whatsoever in that line up. You need a good football brain in the team too.

You need the kind of passes that Eikrem delivered to Le Fondre and Maynard respectively against Wolfsburg and Coventry. Eikrem should take Whitts' place by now, he doesn't seem to have the 'spark' right now that Eikrem has. Eikrem might often have been inconsistent over the duration of a full game, but that's only because he's given too few. I think Ole needs to solidify Eikrem into the team sooner rather than later, and give Whitts a break to clear his mind as he just seems disillusioned to me.

I haven't seen anything from Eikrem to convince me he is that good but I am surprised that he hasn't started. I beleiev he is more rounded than Whitts and has a little more athletism and aggression but can he score 20 in a season.

Our midfield hasn't been effective for four seasons the common denominator is whitts

Championship winners
FA cup final
League cup final
Championship play off final
2 championship playoffs

Yeah, we have been shit !!!!!!!!

CCFC - Worse fans in the country

Whitts is fu..ing useless
When everyone is fit we will play noone digikqo ademymi and pilkington sorry about (spelling)
With Brayford and fabio supporting the 2wingers
IMO I can't wait to see jones and macheda in front of that 6 with any 2from Morrison Hudson Connelly cala and turner doing the centre back duties
So I would like to see us get another winger and one more midfielder who has pace a good tackler and comfortable on the ball in case ademymi or digiqoi gets injured
With dehlie le fondre whitts guerra kimbo eikrem sharing the subs job as possible game changers
Think 442 at home and away but on occasions going 451 where needed
IMO our biggest problem is lack of pace all over the park

A line up with dikacoi, adeyemi, noone and pilkington gives you power and pace. But whose gonna pull the strings? No playmaker whatsoever in that line up. You need a good football brain in the team too.

You need the kind of passes that Eikrem delivered to Le Fondre and Maynard respectively against Wolfsburg and Coventry. Eikrem should take Whitts' place by now, he doesn't seem to have the 'spark' right now that Eikrem has. Eikrem might often have been inconsistent over the duration of a full game, but that's only because he's given too few. I think Ole needs to solidify Eikrem into the team sooner rather than later, and give Whitts a break to clear his mind as he just seems disillusioned to me.

I haven't seen anything from Eikrem to convince me he is that good but I am surprised that he hasn't started. I beleiev he is more rounded than Whitts and has a little more athletism and aggression but can he score 20 in a season.

Our midfield hasn't been effective for four seasons the common denominator is whitts

Championship winners
FA cup final
League cup final
Championship play off final
2 championship playoffs

Yeah, we have been shit !!!!!!!!

CCFC - Worse fans in the country

Ilan I agree with you in that Eikrem is a more rounded player than Whittingham and ultimately he will prove a more effective midfielder. He just needs games to develop. My only concern is that he appears to lack pace

Whitts is fu..ing useless
When everyone is fit we will play noone digikqo ademymi and pilkington sorry about (spelling)
With Brayford and fabio supporting the 2wingers
IMO I can't wait to see jones and macheda in front of that 6 with any 2from Morrison Hudson Connelly cala and turner doing the centre back duties
So I would like to see us get another winger and one more midfielder who has pace a good tackler and comfortable on the ball in case ademymi or digiqoi gets injured
With dehlie le fondre whitts guerra kimbo eikrem sharing the subs job as possible game changers
Think 442 at home and away but on occasions going 451 where needed
IMO our biggest problem is lack of pace all over the park

A line up with dikacoi, adeyemi, noone and pilkington gives you power and pace. But whose gonna pull the strings? No playmaker whatsoever in that line up. You need a good football brain in the team too.

You need the kind of passes that Eikrem delivered to Le Fondre and Maynard respectively against Wolfsburg and Coventry. Eikrem should take Whitts' place by now, he doesn't seem to have the 'spark' right now that Eikrem has. Eikrem might often have been inconsistent over the duration of a full game, but that's only because he's given too few. I think Ole needs to solidify Eikrem into the team sooner rather than later, and give Whitts a break to clear his mind as he just seems disillusioned to me.

I haven't seen anything from Eikrem to convince me he is that good but I am surprised that he hasn't started. I beleiev he is more rounded than Whitts and has a little more athletism and aggression but can he score 20 in a season.

Our midfield hasn't been effective for four seasons the common denominator is whitts

Championship winners
FA cup final
League cup final
Championship play off final
2 championship playoffs

Yeah, we have been shit !!!!!!!!

CCFC - Worse fans in the country

Ilan I agree with you in that Eikrem is a more rounded player than Whittingham and ultimately he will prove a more effective midfielder. He just needs games to develop. My only concern is that he appears to lack pace

He does. But pilkington and burgstaller aren't that fast either. Don't think he is much slower than them.

Eikrem still has to prove he is championship class. I think he guesses his passes, looks good in a tackle and I am not sure on his stamina. He is a central midfield player, why does he need pace ?

If he or Whitts were the complete package they wouldn't be in the championship.

None of us understand how Ole works, he may have said to Jones, Maynard & Gunnar, I'll give you a few games to prove yourselves or you're out.

I doubt the team on show on saturday are there on the last game of the season.