' Cardiff City Football Club issue a Statement '
Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:11 pm
Friday 22nd Aug 2014
We had not intended to comment on matters which have been reported in the press over the last two days in relation to Malky Mackay and Iain Moody. However, following the statement released by the LMA last night we feel compelled to respond.
The LMA is the representative voice of managers, and whilst we understand it seeks to act in the best interests of its members, one of its major aims is to "encourage honourable practice, conduct and courtesy in all professional activity”.
Regrettably, we feel that the LMA has done no such thing in its representation of Mr Mackay and Mr Moody. The LMA were aware of the allegations from the morning of the search order, and their lawyers acted for Mr Mackay and Mr Moody throughout the legal process.
That the LMA has sought to criticise the Club for the timing of the report to the FA is preposterous, because the offensive communications have been in the knowledge and possession of the LMA for many months. When the messages came to light, over three months ago, the Club strongly encouraged and advised Mr Moody and Mr Mackay to deal with the issue directly with the FA.
It was made clear to them, and their LMA appointed lawyers, that the nature of the communications meant the Club was under a duty to report their findings to the FA if they did not take appropriate action themselves. Nevertheless, with the backing of the LMA, Mr Moody and Mr Mackay chose to do nothing. The LMA were therefore complicit in the attempt to conceal these messages (of which there were many more than the two isolated texts acknowledged by Mr Mackay).
We also point out that the LMA members have a ‘Code of Conduct’ incorporated into their managerial contracts. One of the requirements is “A Manager shall not use racist or other discriminatory language. A Manager’s behaviour should demonstrate to Players and other employees under his control that discrimination in any form is unacceptable.”
We therefore find it entirely reprehensible that the LMA should itself put out a statement which seeks to dismiss deeply offensive racist comments as 'friendly banter'.
If that is the view held by the LMA, as appears from its statement, we consider that Richard Bevan’s position is untenable and we call for his resignation.
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We had not intended to comment on matters which have been reported in the press over the last two days in relation to Malky Mackay and Iain Moody. However, following the statement released by the LMA last night we feel compelled to respond.
The LMA is the representative voice of managers, and whilst we understand it seeks to act in the best interests of its members, one of its major aims is to "encourage honourable practice, conduct and courtesy in all professional activity”.
Regrettably, we feel that the LMA has done no such thing in its representation of Mr Mackay and Mr Moody. The LMA were aware of the allegations from the morning of the search order, and their lawyers acted for Mr Mackay and Mr Moody throughout the legal process.
That the LMA has sought to criticise the Club for the timing of the report to the FA is preposterous, because the offensive communications have been in the knowledge and possession of the LMA for many months. When the messages came to light, over three months ago, the Club strongly encouraged and advised Mr Moody and Mr Mackay to deal with the issue directly with the FA.
It was made clear to them, and their LMA appointed lawyers, that the nature of the communications meant the Club was under a duty to report their findings to the FA if they did not take appropriate action themselves. Nevertheless, with the backing of the LMA, Mr Moody and Mr Mackay chose to do nothing. The LMA were therefore complicit in the attempt to conceal these messages (of which there were many more than the two isolated texts acknowledged by Mr Mackay).
We also point out that the LMA members have a ‘Code of Conduct’ incorporated into their managerial contracts. One of the requirements is “A Manager shall not use racist or other discriminatory language. A Manager’s behaviour should demonstrate to Players and other employees under his control that discrimination in any form is unacceptable.”
We therefore find it entirely reprehensible that the LMA should itself put out a statement which seeks to dismiss deeply offensive racist comments as 'friendly banter'.
If that is the view held by the LMA, as appears from its statement, we consider that Richard Bevan’s position is untenable and we call for his resignation.
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Re: Club issues statement regarding LMA
Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:44 pm
A very reasonable statement IMHO.
I appreciate that many people are racist in GB but MM was in a senior position as club manager and should have been setting an example. Also the club state that "there were many more" offensive texts.
I stated many times that things are not black and white and that Vincent Tan was not as bad as he was being portrayed and MM was not the messiah that some fans thought he was. I do think some of the abuse given to Tan was absolutely disgraceful and unfair. MM loved the media and always seemed happy that VT was portrayed badly.
However, we should not seek to destroy any future career that MM may have in football and I think that PROVIDED he was not defrauding us (ie on the fiddle) he should find employment again.
I appreciate that many people are racist in GB but MM was in a senior position as club manager and should have been setting an example. Also the club state that "there were many more" offensive texts.
I stated many times that things are not black and white and that Vincent Tan was not as bad as he was being portrayed and MM was not the messiah that some fans thought he was. I do think some of the abuse given to Tan was absolutely disgraceful and unfair. MM loved the media and always seemed happy that VT was portrayed badly.
However, we should not seek to destroy any future career that MM may have in football and I think that PROVIDED he was not defrauding us (ie on the fiddle) he should find employment again.
Re: Club issues statement regarding LMA
Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:09 pm
Lengee wrote:A very reasonable statement IMHO.
I appreciate that many people are racist in GB but MM was in a senior position as club manager and should have been setting an example. Also the club state that "there were many more" offensive texts.
I stated many times that things are not black and white and that Vincent Tan was not as bad as he was being portrayed and MM was not the messiah that some fans thought he was. I do think some of the abuse given to Tan was absolutely disgraceful and unfair. MM loved the media and always seemed happy that VT was portrayed badly.
However, we should not seek to destroy any future career that MM may have in football and I think that PROVIDED he was not defrauding us (ie on the fiddle) he should find employment again.
Agree, although my gut says he's finished, O'Leary style!
Re: ' Cardiff City Football Club issue a Statement '
Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:37 pm
SO both Malky and the LMA knew for weeks and chose to do nothing!!
they deserve all they get
they deserve all they get
Re: Club issues statement regarding LMA
Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:44 pm
Lengee wrote:A very reasonable statement IMHO.
I appreciate that many people are racist in GB but MM was in a senior position as club manager and should have been setting an example. Also the club state that "there were many more" offensive texts.
I stated many times that things are not black and white and that Vincent Tan was not as bad as he was being portrayed and MM was not the messiah that some fans thought he was. I do think some of the abuse given to Tan was absolutely disgraceful and unfair. MM loved the media and always seemed happy that VT was portrayed badly.
However, we should not seek to destroy any future career that MM may have in football and I think that PROVIDED he was not defrauding us (ie on the fiddle) he should find employment again.
not defrauding?..i cant believe there is one person l;eft with 1% of doubt regarding this...