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' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:30 pm

Malky has said he's shocked and stunned with the last 24hours and will fight this all the way according to sky sports news, if its true what's supposed to have happened then why would he try to fight it :?

Mackay reportedly 'shocked and stunned' vows clear his name


The former Bluebirds boss's agent reportedly told Sky Sports News Mackay would fight the serious allegations against him

Ex-Cardiff manager Malky Mackay

Former Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay has vowed to fight the shocking allegations facing him in the wake of the Bluebirds dossier that accuses him and Iain Moody of sending "racist, sexist and homophobic" text messages.

Mackay is reeling from 24 hours of shock revelations as the Football Association begin a probe into his conduct during his time at the Bluebirds.

The Scot's Agent, Raymond Sparkes , is tonight reported as telling Sky Sports News Mackay will be challenging the allegations, with a fuller statement expected later on Thursday.

The Bluebirds hierarchy have taken action, in the form of a detailed dossier, under laws E3.1 and E3.2 in the FA’s own rulebook, which come under a general heading of Conduct.

It follows a seven-month investigation by top London law firm Mishcon de Reya into the work done by Mackay and Moody during their two and a half years at the helm with Cardiff.

The promotion-winning Bluebirds manager and his trusted No2 Moody are the subject of a top-level FA investigation over claims “sexist, racist and homophobic” messages were sent.

Re: Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:31 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:Malky has said he's shocked and stunned with the last 24hours and will fight this all the way according to sky sports news, if its true what's supposed to have happened then why would he try to fight it :?

What, he's denying he sent the texts ?

Re: Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:35 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:Malky has said he's shocked and stunned with the last 24hours and will fight this all the way according to sky sports news, if its true what's supposed to have happened then why would he try to fight it :?

What, he's denying he sent the texts ?

No idea of the details wez I just seen a headline on SSN mate that says MM is shocked and stunned at tans latest allegation over the last 24hours and will fight this all the way. :? So f**k knows what's gone on.

Re: Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:35 pm

If the police don't follow it up as said in an other thread then he is innocent

Any thing serious he will be done

Re: Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:40 pm

Malkys agent shocked and stunned............but he has lined him up some work in the remake of till death us do part, playing alf garnett. if successful he may get a part in the stage version of love thy neighbour at the shaftbury theatre London.

Re: Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:41 pm

Mackay reportedly 'shocked and stunned' vows clear his name


The former Bluebirds boss's agent reportedly told Sky Sports News Mackay would fight the serious allegations against him
Peter Byrne/PA Wire
Ex-Cardiff manager Malky Mackay
Former Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay has vowed to fight the shocking allegations facing him in the wake of the Bluebirds dossier that accuses him and Iain Moody of sending "racist, sexist and homophobic" text messages.

Mackay is reeling from 24 hours of shock revelations as the Football Association begin a probe into his conduct during his time at the Bluebirds.

The Scot's Agent, Raymond Sparkes , is tonight reported as telling Sky Sports News Mackay will be challenging the allegations, with a fuller statement expected later on Thursday.

The Bluebirds hierarchy have taken action, in the form of a detailed dossier, under laws E3.1 and E3.2 in the FA’s own rulebook, which come under a general heading of Conduct.

It follows a seven-month investigation by top London law firm Mishcon de Reya into the work done by Mackay and Moody during their two and a half years at the helm with Cardiff.

The promotion-winning Bluebirds manager and his trusted No2 Moody are the subject of a top-level FA investigation over claims “sexist, racist and homophobic” messages were sent.

Re: Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:44 pm

If its not true, why did palace turn so fast, and why did Moody resign? Parish wouldnt push his mate out or stop at the last minute from hiring another unless they were both very much guilty!

I can see another few weeks of back and forths before like last time, Malky and Moody apologise, but this time i think it will be a bit more heart felt

Re: Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:48 pm

np20 wrote:If its not true, why did palace turn so fast, and why did Moody resign? Parish wouldnt push his mate out or stop at the last minute from hiring another unless they were both very much guilty!

I can see another few weeks of back and forths before like last time, Malky and Moody apologise, but this time i think it will be a bit more heart felt

I don't know what to believe tbh its a big fiddle being played by all partys that the media just thrive off eitherway :lol:

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:58 pm

How can he be shocked and stunned when everyone knew Chief ? :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:05 pm

He's been found out, so he's clutching at straws.

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:05 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:How can he be shocked and stunned when everyone knew Chief ? :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

No idea when I was told the same thing nukes I was like hmm maybe another tan trick to get in the media again and now its out two months on both tan and malky seem to be going head to head over it so f**k knows, all it will do its make the club look cunts again no matter what the outcome but we as fans should be amune to that by now and it will drag on like a who done it story from eastenders :bluescarf:
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Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:06 pm

If you recall, when Malky was dismissed he was similarly indignant, letting everyone know that he was going to persue the club through the courts to claim what was rightfully his.

That didn't happen did it?

Malky has to say something like this to try to save whatever small iota of credibility he may still have.

If the allegations are untrue then he should be talking about peruing the accusers for defamation rather than talking about defending himself.

Re: Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned

Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:35 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
np20 wrote:If its not true, why did palace turn so fast, and why did Moody resign? Parish wouldnt push his mate out or stop at the last minute from hiring another unless they were both very much guilty!

I can see another few weeks of back and forths before like last time, Malky and Moody apologise, but this time i think it will be a bit more heart felt

I don't know what to believe tbh its a big fiddle being played by all partys that the media just thrive off eitherway :lol:


Well, he already apologized for those mails, so why shocked? Maybe he is referring to the fraud part?

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:40 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:Malky has said he's shocked and stunned with the last 24hours and will fight this all the way according to sky sports news, if its true what's supposed to have happened then why would he try to fight it :?

Mackay reportedly 'shocked and stunned' vows clear his name


The former Bluebirds boss's agent reportedly told Sky Sports News Mackay would fight the serious allegations against him

Ex-Cardiff manager Malky Mackay

Former Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay has vowed to fight the shocking allegations facing him in the wake of the Bluebirds dossier that accuses him and Iain Moody of sending "racist, sexist and homophobic" text messages.

Mackay is reeling from 24 hours of shock revelations as the Football Association begin a probe into his conduct during his time at the Bluebirds.

The Scot's Agent, Raymond Sparkes , is tonight reported as telling Sky Sports News Mackay will be challenging the allegations, with a fuller statement expected later on Thursday.

The Bluebirds hierarchy have taken action, in the form of a detailed dossier, under laws E3.1 and E3.2 in the FA’s own rulebook, which come under a general heading of Conduct.

It follows a seven-month investigation by top London law firm Mishcon de Reya into the work done by Mackay and Moody during their two and a half years at the helm with Cardiff.

The promotion-winning Bluebirds manager and his trusted No2 Moody are the subject of a top-level FA investigation over claims “sexist, racist and homophobic” messages were sent.


ah well, he must be innocent then :laughing5:

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:00 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:Malky has said he's shocked and stunned with the last 24hours and will fight this all the way according to sky sports news, if its true what's supposed to have happened then why would he try to fight it :?

Mackay reportedly 'shocked and stunned' vows clear his name


The former Bluebirds boss's agent reportedly told Sky Sports News Mackay would fight the serious allegations against him

Ex-Cardiff manager Malky Mackay

Former Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay has vowed to fight the shocking allegations facing him in the wake of the Bluebirds dossier that accuses him and Iain Moody of sending "racist, sexist and homophobic" text messages.

Mackay is reeling from 24 hours of shock revelations as the Football Association begin a probe into his conduct during his time at the Bluebirds.

The Scot's Agent, Raymond Sparkes , is tonight reported as telling Sky Sports News Mackay will be challenging the allegations, with a fuller statement expected later on Thursday.

The Bluebirds hierarchy have taken action, in the form of a detailed dossier, under laws E3.1 and E3.2 in the FA’s own rulebook, which come under a general heading of Conduct.

It follows a seven-month investigation by top London law firm Mishcon de Reya into the work done by Mackay and Moody during their two and a half years at the helm with Cardiff.

The promotion-winning Bluebirds manager and his trusted No2 Moody are the subject of a top-level FA investigation over claims “sexist, racist and homophobic” messages were sent.


There is absolutely nothing else he could say. He's hardly likely to cough for everything until its proved and played out fully. Surely nobody's nieve enough to just believe what he says now.

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:21 pm

Pretty sure Max Clifford and Rolf Harris said the same thing.

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:51 pm

:ole: :ole: :ole:
If you remember, when Malky and Moody made their apologies, it was stated that the would not take any more action against the club, and that he paid his own costs which were reported to be £120,000. Now correct me if I'm wrong but that means he would have to enter into more costs, which means starting from scratch.
We have been told that certain people new about the e-mails but out of respect for Malky kept quiet, if that is right then they must have felt that they were true, and if true then Malky is guilty as charged, and I believe if they are true, then I would suggest that he keeps his head down and stays, if they're not true then why didn't continue the fight last time, because I feel he will not get the backing of the Managers association this time.

Still too many questions to be answered yet, and I feel that this will roll on for a while yet.

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:18 pm

Really hope Malky fights this to shut up the politically correct idiots on here.....

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:31 pm

Warren of Merthyr wrote:Really hope Malky fights this to shut up the politically correct idiots on here.....


you seem like an independently-minded young homo!

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:33 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:How can he be shocked and stunned when everyone knew Chief ? :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

No idea when I was told the same thing nukes I was like hmm maybe another tan trick to get in the media again and now its out two months on both tan and malky seem to be going head to head over it so f**k knows, all it will do its make the club look cunts again no matter what the outcome but we as fans should be amune to that by now and it will drag on like a who done it story from eastenders :bluescarf:



And how exactly does the club exposing a couple of racists male it 'look cunts again'. Strange opinion!

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:55 pm

Warren of Merthyr wrote:Really hope Malky fights this to shut up the politically correct idiots on here.....


i hope he spends every penny he has fighting it,and borrows loads towards the cause to the anti cardiff scumbag he is.......

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:34 am

Warren of Merthyr wrote:Really hope Malky fights this to shut up the politically correct idiots on here.....


Narrow minded tool.

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:39 am

davids wrote:If you recall, when Malky was dismissed he was similarly indignant, letting everyone know that he was going to persue the club through the courts to claim what was rightfully his.

That didn't happen did it?

Malky has to say something like this to try to save whatever small iota of credibility he may still have.

If the allegations are untrue then he should be talking about peruing the accusers for defamation rather than talking about defending himself.



Spot on! :thumbright:

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:17 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:How can he be shocked and stunned when everyone knew Chief ? :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

No idea when I was told the same thing nukes I was like hmm maybe another tan trick to get in the media again and now its out two months on both tan and malky seem to be going head to head over it so f**k knows, all it will do its make the club look cunts again no matter what the outcome but we as fans should be amune to that by now and it will drag on like a who done it story from eastenders :bluescarf:





Serious question here...

Why will it make the club look like (not a word I'd use :oops: ) c**ts?? :?

Take a step back and ask yourself what you would think if this was happening at another club (obviously Swansea apart)?

For me, I'd just think "Strewth, Malky and his mate seem to have been caught out and exposed for wrong-doing!" and then move on with the more important thingsin life! As odd as it sounds, most people don't spend their lives monitoring every little thing that goes on at their rival clubs (which is why I left Swansea fans out of the equation, of course! :laughing6: )

I certainly wouldn't be taking the Mick out of the club itself, as they (IMHO) would have done well for bringing it to the fore in a sport where lots is brushed under the carpet!

The club (nee Tan to some with negative agendas) appear to have done little wrong in this instance and no one will blame them for ensuring that ANY (never mind the fans hero Malky) person who spouts such homophobic, sexist and racist stuff, will be brought to book morally, and as laid down in FA Rules!

It's a massive shame, but assuming it is all true (and the indicators are looking pretty damning right now) then other club's and their decent fans should be applauding Cardiff City FC for exposing a (maybe) fraudulent and morally corrupt duo, as well (in Palace's case) a club that also cheated by gaining the Cardiff team sheet illegally!

It also beggars the question of why Pulis resigned/walked away the week the 'Spygate' news was released, doesn't it?

Personally, I couldn't care less about Palace and I will only pay 'lip service' to what happens to them next...pretty much the same as 'other' club's fans (Swansea apart, of course) will do to Cardiff City FC a week after all this has gone from the media

The truth is (the odd song apart) they genuinely don't care for our club anymore than I do for theirs and on this point I include Swansea fans! :thumbup: ;)

Re: ' Malkys agent - Shocked and stunned '

Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:06 am

Sven wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:How can he be shocked and stunned when everyone knew Chief ? :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

No idea when I was told the same thing nukes I was like hmm maybe another tan trick to get in the media again and now its out two months on both tan and malky seem to be going head to head over it so f**k knows, all it will do its make the club look cunts again no matter what the outcome but we as fans should be amune to that by now and it will drag on like a who done it story from eastenders :bluescarf:





Serious question here...

Why will it make the club look like (not a word I'd use :oops: ) c**ts?? :?

Take a step back and ask yourself what you would think if this was happening at another club (obviously Swansea apart)?

For me, I'd just think "Strewth, Malky and his mate seem to have been caught out and exposed for wrong-doing!" and then move on with the more important thingsin life! As odd as it sounds, most people don't spend their lives monitoring every little thing that goes on at their rival clubs (which is why I left Swansea fans out of the equation, of course! :laughing6: )

I certainly wouldn't be taking the Mick out of the club itself, as they (IMHO) would have done well for bringing it to the fore in a sport where lots is brushed under the carpet!

The club (nee Tan to some with negative agendas) appear to have done little wrong in this instance and no one will blame them for ensuring that ANY (never mind the fans hero Malky) person who spouts such homophobic, sexist and racist stuff, will be brought to book morally, and as laid down in FA Rules!

It's a massive shame, but assuming it is all true (and the indicators are looking pretty damning right now) then other club's and their decent fans should be applauding Cardiff City FC for exposing a (maybe) fraudulent and morally corrupt duo, as well (in Palace's case) a club that also cheated by gaining the Cardiff team sheet illegally!

It also beggars the question of why Pulis resigned/walked away the week the 'Spygate' news was released, doesn't it?

Personally, I couldn't care less about Palace and I will only pay 'lip service' to what happens to them next...pretty much the same as 'other' club's fans (Swansea apart, of course) will do to Cardiff City FC a week after all this has gone from the media

The truth is (the odd song apart) they genuinely don't care for our club anymore than I do for theirs and on this point I include Swansea fans! :thumbup: ;)


as usual, you're spot on. Unfortunately some people are so blinded by hate they can't just admit that Tan was (once again) right in sacking Malky and reporting this to the FA. So they're looking to latch on any feeble excuse to try to find wrong in Tan's actions. Pathetic but true.