This could of all been avoided and I feel a fool & Let down

My View, I feel let down and Stupid by Malky and I agree this could all have been avoided, if Malky had just resigned instead of playing us like fools.


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Malky Mackay, Vincent Tan's dossier and a shocking story that could have been avoided
Aug 21, 2014

By Paul Abbandonato




Paul Abbandonato argues Malky Mackay could have avoided this situation by resigning as Cardiff City manager when Vincent Tan asked him to

Two things stand out for me from the Malky Mackay controversy.

The first is that he should have resigned with dignity when Vincent Tan first asked him to and, by doing so, avoided the horrible accusations thrown his way with these highly damaging most recent claims.

The second, and this is intrinsically linked to the first, is that however popular a manager you may be with the fans, you simply cannot beat the owner in a power struggle.

Professionally speaking as a sports journalist, I learned that back in 1993 when Terry Yorath was controversially ditched as manager of Wales.

Cue a public outcry. This was the bloke who had taken the Dragons to within a penalty kick of the World Cup and who was hugely popular with his players and the fans.

However, the FAW hierarchy had made their non-populist decision and weren’t for budging. Fully 21 years on most of those FAW blazers are still in situ. I don’t even know what TY is doing these days.

I don’t expect Tan to continue in charge of Cardiff City until the year 2035, of course. His time is the present.. and taking on a billionaire of his clout must rank as one of the more futile things Mackay has done in a management career which, if these claims are substantiated, some reckon may be in danger of already being over.

PA WireCardiff City owner Vincent Tan
When the Tan versus Mackay issue first blew up, there was no more popular manager in Britain with his own fan base than Malky.

Bluebirds supporters made their views perfectly clear with that ‘Don’t Sack Mackay’ chant which reverberated around Cardiff City Stadium. A direct message to the watching owner from the paying customer, emphasised further with the “In Malky We Trust” and “Tan Out” banners.

If that put Mackay in a supposed position of strength, particularly after the historic 1-0 Premier League derby victory over arch-rivals Swansea, it was a false one.

Tan was always the individual wielding the real power here. He proved that by summarily dismissing Mackay the moment his team were thrashed 3-0 at home to Southampton on Boxing Day.

Proof again that you cannot take on the money-man in football and expect to win. He will always have the final say.

A sign that the working rapport between the two was completely broken down by that point – and that one had to go – came at Mackay’s pre-match Press conference. He refused point blank to refer to Tan by name, simply calling him “the owner.”

Disrespectful? I thought so, but positively miniscule compared to some of the things claimed in the detailed dossier which has been sent by the Bluebirds to the Football Association.

So how on earth has it come to this? I’m told the atmosphere between Tan and Mackay first became poisoned when the owner asked his manager to a meeting “to explain why we’ve spent so badly in the transfer market.”

Mehmet Dalman, Malky Mackay and Vincent Tan
Tan’s main points of concern were the record sums paid for £8million flop Andreas Cornelius and Gary Medel, as well as the deal done for John Brayford who didn’t get a look-in under Mackay. He didn’t believe this was the manager to spend his money again in the January transfer window.

As news of a resign or be sacked ultimatum from Tan began to surface, there was more and more sympathy for Mackay, not just amongst Cardiff fans but from the football fraternity at large. Leading pundits and the League Managers Association staunchly supported Mackay, in doing so rounding upon Tan.

Opportunities to ridicule Tan were seized upon. Talk of him looking like a Bond villain, or a pantomime baddie, was raised.

Under-estimate this man at your peril, though. He didn’t make his £1.6billion fortune by being a mug or a weakling.

Privately, those critical remarks must have really rankled with Tan. As, one assumes, did Mackay’s huge popularity. He was going to have his own moment in the sun some day.

In a BBC interview, Tan claimed: “Malky has played the media well. In the eyes of some fans he’s the idol, I’m the villain. When the truth comes out, this will be reversed, I assure you.


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My View, I feel let down and Stupid by Malky and I agree this could all have been avoided, if Malky had just resigned instead of playing us like fools.


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Malky Mackay, Vincent Tan's dossier and a shocking story that could have been avoided
Aug 21, 2014

By Paul Abbandonato




Paul Abbandonato argues Malky Mackay could have avoided this situation by resigning as Cardiff City manager when Vincent Tan asked him to

Two things stand out for me from the Malky Mackay controversy.

The first is that he should have resigned with dignity when Vincent Tan first asked him to and, by doing so, avoided the horrible accusations thrown his way with these highly damaging most recent claims.

The second, and this is intrinsically linked to the first, is that however popular a manager you may be with the fans, you simply cannot beat the owner in a power struggle.

Professionally speaking as a sports journalist, I learned that back in 1993 when Terry Yorath was controversially ditched as manager of Wales.

Cue a public outcry. This was the bloke who had taken the Dragons to within a penalty kick of the World Cup and who was hugely popular with his players and the fans.

However, the FAW hierarchy had made their non-populist decision and weren’t for budging. Fully 21 years on most of those FAW blazers are still in situ. I don’t even know what TY is doing these days.

I don’t expect Tan to continue in charge of Cardiff City until the year 2035, of course. His time is the present.. and taking on a billionaire of his clout must rank as one of the more futile things Mackay has done in a management career which, if these claims are substantiated, some reckon may be in danger of already being over.

PA WireCardiff City owner Vincent Tan
When the Tan versus Mackay issue first blew up, there was no more popular manager in Britain with his own fan base than Malky.

Bluebirds supporters made their views perfectly clear with that ‘Don’t Sack Mackay’ chant which reverberated around Cardiff City Stadium. A direct message to the watching owner from the paying customer, emphasised further with the “In Malky We Trust” and “Tan Out” banners.

If that put Mackay in a supposed position of strength, particularly after the historic 1-0 Premier League derby victory over arch-rivals Swansea, it was a false one.

Tan was always the individual wielding the real power here. He proved that by summarily dismissing Mackay the moment his team were thrashed 3-0 at home to Southampton on Boxing Day.

Proof again that you cannot take on the money-man in football and expect to win. He will always have the final say.

A sign that the working rapport between the two was completely broken down by that point – and that one had to go – came at Mackay’s pre-match Press conference. He refused point blank to refer to Tan by name, simply calling him “the owner.”

Disrespectful? I thought so, but positively miniscule compared to some of the things claimed in the detailed dossier which has been sent by the Bluebirds to the Football Association.

So how on earth has it come to this? I’m told the atmosphere between Tan and Mackay first became poisoned when the owner asked his manager to a meeting “to explain why we’ve spent so badly in the transfer market.”

Mehmet Dalman, Malky Mackay and Vincent Tan
Tan’s main points of concern were the record sums paid for £8million flop Andreas Cornelius and Gary Medel, as well as the deal done for John Brayford who didn’t get a look-in under Mackay. He didn’t believe this was the manager to spend his money again in the January transfer window.

As news of a resign or be sacked ultimatum from Tan began to surface, there was more and more sympathy for Mackay, not just amongst Cardiff fans but from the football fraternity at large. Leading pundits and the League Managers Association staunchly supported Mackay, in doing so rounding upon Tan.

Opportunities to ridicule Tan were seized upon. Talk of him looking like a Bond villain, or a pantomime baddie, was raised.

Under-estimate this man at your peril, though. He didn’t make his £1.6billion fortune by being a mug or a weakling.

Privately, those critical remarks must have really rankled with Tan. As, one assumes, did Mackay’s huge popularity. He was going to have his own moment in the sun some day.

In a BBC interview, Tan claimed: “Malky has played the media well. In the eyes of some fans he’s the idol, I’m the villain. When the truth comes out, this will be reversed, I assure you.


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This racism is the tip of the iceberg ,the dodgy agent fees will come out the latest I've heard is an agents was being paid that weren't even involved in the medal deal ,Moody is in deep shit

My View, I feel let down and Stupid by Malky and I agree this could all have been avoided, if Malky had just resigned instead of playing us like fools.


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Malky Mackay, Vincent Tan's dossier and a shocking story that could have been avoided
Aug 21, 2014

By Paul Abbandonato




Paul Abbandonato argues Malky Mackay could have avoided this situation by resigning as Cardiff City manager when Vincent Tan asked him to

Two things stand out for me from the Malky Mackay controversy.

The first is that he should have resigned with dignity when Vincent Tan first asked him to and, by doing so, avoided the horrible accusations thrown his way with these highly damaging most recent claims.

The second, and this is intrinsically linked to the first, is that however popular a manager you may be with the fans, you simply cannot beat the owner in a power struggle.

Professionally speaking as a sports journalist, I learned that back in 1993 when Terry Yorath was controversially ditched as manager of Wales.

Cue a public outcry. This was the bloke who had taken the Dragons to within a penalty kick of the World Cup and who was hugely popular with his players and the fans.

However, the FAW hierarchy had made their non-populist decision and weren’t for budging. Fully 21 years on most of those FAW blazers are still in situ. I don’t even know what TY is doing these days.

I don’t expect Tan to continue in charge of Cardiff City until the year 2035, of course. His time is the present.. and taking on a billionaire of his clout must rank as one of the more futile things Mackay has done in a management career which, if these claims are substantiated, some reckon may be in danger of already being over.

PA WireCardiff City owner Vincent Tan
When the Tan versus Mackay issue first blew up, there was no more popular manager in Britain with his own fan base than Malky.

Bluebirds supporters made their views perfectly clear with that ‘Don’t Sack Mackay’ chant which reverberated around Cardiff City Stadium. A direct message to the watching owner from the paying customer, emphasised further with the “In Malky We Trust” and “Tan Out” banners.

If that put Mackay in a supposed position of strength, particularly after the historic 1-0 Premier League derby victory over arch-rivals Swansea, it was a false one.

Tan was always the individual wielding the real power here. He proved that by summarily dismissing Mackay the moment his team were thrashed 3-0 at home to Southampton on Boxing Day.

Proof again that you cannot take on the money-man in football and expect to win. He will always have the final say.

A sign that the working rapport between the two was completely broken down by that point – and that one had to go – came at Mackay’s pre-match Press conference. He refused point blank to refer to Tan by name, simply calling him “the owner.”

Disrespectful? I thought so, but positively miniscule compared to some of the things claimed in the detailed dossier which has been sent by the Bluebirds to the Football Association.

So how on earth has it come to this? I’m told the atmosphere between Tan and Mackay first became poisoned when the owner asked his manager to a meeting “to explain why we’ve spent so badly in the transfer market.”

Mehmet Dalman, Malky Mackay and Vincent Tan
Tan’s main points of concern were the record sums paid for £8million flop Andreas Cornelius and Gary Medel, as well as the deal done for John Brayford who didn’t get a look-in under Mackay. He didn’t believe this was the manager to spend his money again in the January transfer window.

As news of a resign or be sacked ultimatum from Tan began to surface, there was more and more sympathy for Mackay, not just amongst Cardiff fans but from the football fraternity at large. Leading pundits and the League Managers Association staunchly supported Mackay, in doing so rounding upon Tan.

Opportunities to ridicule Tan were seized upon. Talk of him looking like a Bond villain, or a pantomime baddie, was raised.

Under-estimate this man at your peril, though. He didn’t make his £1.6billion fortune by being a mug or a weakling.

Privately, those critical remarks must have really rankled with Tan. As, one assumes, did Mackay’s huge popularity. He was going to have his own moment in the sun some day.

In a BBC interview, Tan claimed: “Malky has played the media well. In the eyes of some fans he’s the idol, I’m the villain. When the truth comes out, this will be reversed, I assure you.


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This racism is the tip of the iceberg ,the dodgy agent fees will come out the latest I've heard is an agents was being paid that weren't even involved in the medal deal ,Moody is in deep shit

One question for you Wez. Do you think Malky was involved in money transfers?

My View, I feel let down and Stupid by Malky and I agree this could all have been avoided, if Malky had just resigned instead of playing us like fools.


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Malky Mackay, Vincent Tan's dossier and a shocking story that could have been avoided
Aug 21, 2014

By Paul Abbandonato




Paul Abbandonato argues Malky Mackay could have avoided this situation by resigning as Cardiff City manager when Vincent Tan asked him to

Two things stand out for me from the Malky Mackay controversy.

The first is that he should have resigned with dignity when Vincent Tan first asked him to and, by doing so, avoided the horrible accusations thrown his way with these highly damaging most recent claims.

The second, and this is intrinsically linked to the first, is that however popular a manager you may be with the fans, you simply cannot beat the owner in a power struggle.

Professionally speaking as a sports journalist, I learned that back in 1993 when Terry Yorath was controversially ditched as manager of Wales.

Cue a public outcry. This was the bloke who had taken the Dragons to within a penalty kick of the World Cup and who was hugely popular with his players and the fans.

However, the FAW hierarchy had made their non-populist decision and weren’t for budging. Fully 21 years on most of those FAW blazers are still in situ. I don’t even know what TY is doing these days.

I don’t expect Tan to continue in charge of Cardiff City until the year 2035, of course. His time is the present.. and taking on a billionaire of his clout must rank as one of the more futile things Mackay has done in a management career which, if these claims are substantiated, some reckon may be in danger of already being over.

PA WireCardiff City owner Vincent Tan
When the Tan versus Mackay issue first blew up, there was no more popular manager in Britain with his own fan base than Malky.

Bluebirds supporters made their views perfectly clear with that ‘Don’t Sack Mackay’ chant which reverberated around Cardiff City Stadium. A direct message to the watching owner from the paying customer, emphasised further with the “In Malky We Trust” and “Tan Out” banners.

If that put Mackay in a supposed position of strength, particularly after the historic 1-0 Premier League derby victory over arch-rivals Swansea, it was a false one.

Tan was always the individual wielding the real power here. He proved that by summarily dismissing Mackay the moment his team were thrashed 3-0 at home to Southampton on Boxing Day.

Proof again that you cannot take on the money-man in football and expect to win. He will always have the final say.

A sign that the working rapport between the two was completely broken down by that point – and that one had to go – came at Mackay’s pre-match Press conference. He refused point blank to refer to Tan by name, simply calling him “the owner.”

Disrespectful? I thought so, but positively miniscule compared to some of the things claimed in the detailed dossier which has been sent by the Bluebirds to the Football Association.

So how on earth has it come to this? I’m told the atmosphere between Tan and Mackay first became poisoned when the owner asked his manager to a meeting “to explain why we’ve spent so badly in the transfer market.”

Mehmet Dalman, Malky Mackay and Vincent Tan
Tan’s main points of concern were the record sums paid for £8million flop Andreas Cornelius and Gary Medel, as well as the deal done for John Brayford who didn’t get a look-in under Mackay. He didn’t believe this was the manager to spend his money again in the January transfer window.

As news of a resign or be sacked ultimatum from Tan began to surface, there was more and more sympathy for Mackay, not just amongst Cardiff fans but from the football fraternity at large. Leading pundits and the League Managers Association staunchly supported Mackay, in doing so rounding upon Tan.

Opportunities to ridicule Tan were seized upon. Talk of him looking like a Bond villain, or a pantomime baddie, was raised.

Under-estimate this man at your peril, though. He didn’t make his £1.6billion fortune by being a mug or a weakling.

Privately, those critical remarks must have really rankled with Tan. As, one assumes, did Mackay’s huge popularity. He was going to have his own moment in the sun some day.

In a BBC interview, Tan claimed: “Malky has played the media well. In the eyes of some fans he’s the idol, I’m the villain. When the truth comes out, this will be reversed, I assure you.


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This racism is the tip of the iceberg ,the dodgy agent fees will come out the latest I've heard is an agents was being paid that weren't even involved in the medal deal ,Moody is in deep shit

One question for you Wez. Do you think Malky was involved in money transfers?

Malky would of delt with the agents ,it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had kick backs

Many people have been hoodwinked here so nobody needs to beat himself up and also nobody needs to say "I told you so".

Today is a watershed moment. A line can be drawn under the whole thing and all Bluebirds can walk forward together.

Malky would of delt with the agents ,it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had kick backs

I don't think we will ever know.

Malky would of delt with the agents ,it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had kick backs

I don't think we will ever know.

A good friend of mine is a football agent living in London and he said Moody and malky are thick as thieves more will come out

Pretty much everybody with any connection with the club Knew the reason they were dismissed , very few knew the full extent of how far it actually went .
Staff at the ground were actually told if they talk about it in work and it gets out they would be instantly dismissed .

Malky is a media man whose ego just got to big, he thought he was untouchable.

He may not have been involved with transfers but he could easily of asked for a player knowing he would get a cut of it.... Then just not play the player.

greed and being a smug arrogant man that thinks he is far far smarter than he is got in the way...

Malky resign? he could wrap everyone around his finger

I don´t really get Paul Abbandonato`s point here. Malky is brought to his knees because Tan is a billionaire? Not because he has done something wrong?

I don´t really get Paul Abbandonato`s point here. Malky is brought to his knees because Tan is a billionaire? Not because he has done something wrong?

Not at all! He clearly states that Malky DID wrong and was brought to his knees because he refused to "do the honourable thing" after being told he wasn't wanted and subsequent events only made it worse because the ONLY winner was always going to be Vincent Tan as the club owner (as is the case in ALL football clubs nowadays)

I'm not a fan of WM&E or MediaWales, etc. but I have to say this particular article is very good and the jour no involved makes some very good points

I don´t really get Paul Abbandonato`s point here. Malky is brought to his knees because Tan is a billionaire? Not because he has done something wrong?

Not at all! He clearly states that Malky DID wrong and was brought to his knees because he refused to "do the honourable thing" after being told he wasn't wanted and subsequent events only made it worse because the ONLY winner was always going to be Vincent Tan as the club owner (as is the case in ALL football clubs nowadays)

I'm not a fan of WM&E or MediaWales, etc. but I have to say this particular article is very good and the jour no involved makes some very good points

What amazes me is that they had time to participate in 70,000 texts and 100,000 emails! That is a lot of typing, in a two year period!

I don´t really get Paul Abbandonato`s point here. Malky is brought to his knees because Tan is a billionaire? Not because he has done something wrong?

Not at all! He clearly states that Malky DID wrong and was brought to his knees because he refused to "do the honourable thing" after being told he wasn't wanted and subsequent events only made it worse because the ONLY winner was always going to be Vincent Tan as the club owner (as is the case in ALL football clubs nowadays)

I'm not a fan of WM&E or MediaWales, etc. but I have to say this particular article is very good and the jour no involved makes some very good points

What amazes me is that they had time to participate in 70,000 texts and 100,000 emails! That is a lot of typing, in a two year period!

And has only apologised for sending two racist ones.. hmmm

This is not the end of of it! I can see more things will be released! Transfer dealings looks likely.. Money cannot be hidden under the bed for so long!

This is not the end of of it! I can see more things will be released! Transfer dealings looks likely.. Money cannot be hidden under the bed for so long!

I'm not Tan's no 1 fan, but what we have to remember is whose money is this??????

I still can't get over Malky, I honestly thought he was a straight talking and honest manager /person

I still can't get over Malky, I honestly thought he was a straight talking and honest manager /person

Annis, some of the biggest villains in history have been the ones that can "talk the talk" and are able to convince people that everything they say is right!

Some heinous examples come to mind, but they are not for a football forum!

I was told today that there was quite a few members of staff who was aware of Malky's behaviour which lead to the sacking, however they had to sign a legal gagging document. Imagine having to work and listen to fellow fans/friends hailing Malky the hero and not say a word.