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The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:24 pm

What is it with British fans these days? Once known for their vocal support and now it seems pretty pathetic the country over in honesty. Is it a new breed of fan and a new era for how the supporters react to football. Years ago it was a rattle and a scarf on the wrist while jumping up and down, then it was standing electric atmosphere charged with violent undertones, then seating came in and it gradually got worse to the new era which is simply people sitting and watching the match. Thoughts?

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:48 pm

Removing the football hooligan could have something to do with it.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:01 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Removing the football hooligan could have something to do with it.


There is actually something in that Ian :shock:

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:50 am

I think a lot of true supporters have been priced out of the game. I would cut down on the corporate boxes and replace them with good old fashioned terraces. Never going to happen though, it's all about money and prawn sandwiches.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:06 am

markeMark wrote:I think a lot of true supporters have been priced out of the game. I would cut down on the corporate boxes and replace them with good old fashioned terraces. Never going to happen though, it's all about money and prawn sandwiches.


Spot on, that is the main reason.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:14 am

The stewards were trying to get the Sevilla fans to sit down at the supercup I could nt believe how pathetic that must have looked they created hell of an atmosphere and were not causing any trouble ,no wonder the game is going down hill as a spectator sport . :old:

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:26 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Removing the football hooligan could have something to do with it.


There is actually something in that Ian :shock:


Absolutely, I really believe people with a low income have been all but priced out of football, These people would be the more vocal, rougher supporters who liked a good drink. They have now been replaced by rugby fans who have jumped on the band wagon, At least that's what I Believe has happened at our club.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:52 am

Fuc@ me

Looks like i need to get out early on Tuesday, sink 10 pints and kick sh@t out of some kids from Wigan and then stand up for the whole match whilst totally spoiling the game for the old girl who sits behind me.

That way I can call myself a genuine City fan.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:56 am

Skewett wrote:Fuc@ me

Looks like i need to get out early on Tuesday, sink 10 pints and kick sh@t out of some kids from Wigan and then stand up for the whole match whilst totally spoiling the game for the old girl who sits behind me.

That way I can call myself a genuine City fan.


No one is saying that.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:13 am

Thank christ for that. If I sank 10 pints I'd be up and down for a slash all game and end up spoiling it for the whole of my row.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:00 pm

I think that has been mentioned the average fan is being priced out and feel They want value for money if we are being charged stupid money then fans want comfort etc. As many fans say on here I ain't getting involved in this or that or singing this because I'm going to watch the game. Many want to watch the game in peace and quiet. It's a choice thing but you then loose on the atmosphere.
Yesterday it was quite surreal that the atmosphere was shit poor. And for me the experience of a good game is on the pitch and on the terrace. They done it on the the pitch yesterday but did the fans do anything to inspire the team apart from keeping it like a snooker hall ? Nah. Football ain't the same now sadly.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:39 pm

Removing terraces, pricing a lot of fans out of it, trying to 'PC' football songs and generic modern stadiums I think are some of the main seasons. If you want a decent atmosphere you have to travel abroad now I'm afraid. I'm planning on going to watch feyenoord play this season

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:42 pm

Skewett wrote:Fuc@ me

Looks like i need to get out early on Tuesday, sink 10 pints and kick sh@t out of some kids from Wigan and then stand up for the whole match whilst totally spoiling the game for the old girl who sits behind me.

That way I can call myself a genuine City fan.



Who's saying that? Someone's tired :laughing5:

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:43 pm

Skewett wrote:Thank christ for that. If I sank 10 pints I'd be up and down for a slash all game and end up spoiling it for the whole of my row.



Sounds wild where you sit mate fair play. But this in a sense is the problem, they need to allocate safe standing to certain areas and if unwanted drink bovril and sit down then you can do so without worrying

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:00 pm

When I started watching City, there was a small grandstand seating a thousand or so fans, the Canton stand was seating (I think) but the enclosure, bob bank and Grange end was standing. Good atmosphere then, with most of the noise coming from the bob bank and Grange end. Plenty of seating for those who wanted to sit in peace, and for us younger ones, the bob bank had a cracking atmosphere. Anyone who was there when Toshack was knocking them in will remember the set up in those days.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:12 pm

The atmosphere was definitely better with terracing but it could be back in the day there was less footy on the t.v. and people had their football fix in those couple of hours on a Saturday and made the most of it.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:22 pm

markeMark wrote:When I started watching City, there was a small grandstand seating a thousand or so fans, the Canton stand was seating (I think) but the enclosure, bob bank and Grange end was standing. Good atmosphere then, with most of the noise coming from the bob bank and Grange end. Plenty of seating for those who wanted to sit in peace, and for us younger ones, the bob bank had a cracking atmosphere. Anyone who was there when Toshack was knocking them in will remember the set up in those days.


The Canton had those wooden planks for sitting on.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:33 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
markeMark wrote:When I started watching City, there was a small grandstand seating a thousand or so fans, the Canton stand was seating (I think) but the enclosure, bob bank and Grange end was standing. Good atmosphere then, with most of the noise coming from the bob bank and Grange end. Plenty of seating for those who wanted to sit in peace, and for us younger ones, the bob bank had a cracking atmosphere. Anyone who was there when Toshack was knocking them in will remember the set up in those days.


The Canton had those wooden planks for sitting on.

:thumbup:

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:10 pm

Doesn't help when you have stewards telling fans to sit down and not to sing Palace songs. The club have said you can easily sit and sing, Excuse me, what is this? f*cking tennis and clapping along to Cliff Richards.

I can't enter our ground as I'll kick off straight away with out nazi stewards, these stewards have been educated by the politically correct brigade.

This makes me cringe but this is our fans now thanks to the stewards so everyone just sit and clap along :evil:



I want this but it'll never happen at our ground :|

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:07 pm

Wonder how many of those Sevilla fans are complaining they couldn't see the pitch

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:13 pm

nubbsy wrote:Wonder how many of those Sevilla fans are complaining they couldn't see the pitch


I expect they couldn't care as they seem to be having a great time with like minded fans and it was a carnival atmosphere.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:46 pm

All seater stadiums are to blame, they don't work like terraces did. I don't know about you lot, but chanting, shouting or singing while sitting down is hard work.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:22 am

This is a great thread Row. I've been getting more and more cheesed of with the 'rules' on sitting. A steward at LoftusRoad road on e told me to sit. He explained I could only stand when I am excited. I told him
I'm always excited when the Bluebirds play!! I got a bit of a warning for that. Pathetic.

The 12th man may as well be on a stretcher at times these days.

I watch a lot of football on sky and btsport and must admit I have a beer and a bag of Doritos if it's a 'neutral' game, but if The Bluebirds are playing and I can't get to the match, I'm as vocal in the living room as at any match. My wife goes out for some peace. Lol.

We need standing rules relaxing. Just turn a blind eye, especially in the 'headers' sections. Every ground has these.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:10 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Removing the football hooligan could have something to do with it.


i love a good atmosphere, thats why i sit in the canton,

but i'd happily sit in a quite stadium if it meant this poisonous element is removed from our club

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:03 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Removing the football hooligan could have something to do with it.


There is actually something in that Ian :shock:



:sleepy2: Here we go again, the myth is resurrected. Apart from the odious legacy of football hooliganism and those that adhered to it, as a consequence of decent supporters being driven away from games, attendances went down within a decade by over 50%. Football hooliganism never created 'atmosphere' - just the opportunity for adults to view fellow 'adults' behaving like schoolchildren..

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:07 pm

all seater stadiums spoiled the atmosphere because large groups of like minded people cant sit together like they used to stand on the terrace, younger people are being priced out of the game, putting the family stand next to away fans has spoilt it as well.

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:04 am

Fans on the continent arent experiencing the same issues on the scale we are and arent they mostly all seaters? I know Germany have deployed safe standing to superb effect but the rest seems just as passionate as always (italy and spain).

Re: The death of the football atmosphere in the UK

Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:23 am

One of the reasons I've stopped going to home games, no atmosphere there any more, even in the Canton. I don't see any value in the prices they charge even u21 prices at our ground can be a bit much, like £300 a season ticket.

What the club need to do is bring the average fan back in, whether it's lowering prices or making decent offers, or brining in safe standing. Swapping the Canton and Grange ends would go a long way but that'll never happen