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What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:46 pm

We have just started a new season. Ole has had a full pre-season for the first time as Cardiff City manager. We kicked off with a draw at a team fancied for the top 6. We've progressed to the second round of the League Cup. A decent start.

So why are people saying we should get rid of Ole and bring in Pulis? It's a ridiculous suggestion. Solskjaer deserves the chance to take us up. He's been in the job 8 months, that's all. Yes, we got relegated but he had a huge job on his hands.

Ole has to stay, show us all that he can take us back up. Besides, Pulis has lost two jobs in just over a year. He wouldn't want to go flying in to a new job straightaway.

Ole gets my backing, and I hope he has the full support of the whole home crowd on Saturday and for the rest of the season.

In Ole we trust :ayatollah: :ole: :bluescarf:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:51 pm

Cardiff fans and good sense just don't go together mate, it's why we'll never be a united club.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:02 pm

I really like pulis but all he is is a successful more experienced malky!! I think ole has been given no credit at all for the way he has brought in his own players for little fees etc. I would however like to see pulis involved in some capacity if he fancied it and it didn't undermine ole :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:06 pm

I'm not sure people are being serious I think it's just light hearted question that's all.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:07 pm

Totally agree.

Sadly some fans won't give Ole a chance or give any credit, they say they do and then give every dig they can and all because they think he is Tans man.

I have slight doubts on Ole, like I would any manager but he deserves his chance, we had a good pre season and started the season solidly with the vast majority of his signing still to play.

Pulis may have kept us up but those fans chanting for Malky meant we didn't have a chance to get him... Now the time has passed and we have moved on.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:09 pm

It's amazing how people have some kind of hate for Ole for his Manchester United connections as well, he can't help the club he played for :lol:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:17 pm

Give OGS time. At least another game and half lol.

I like Pulis but the timing is not good to change.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:21 pm

Richie wrote:I'm not sure people are being serious I think it's just light hearted question that's all.


Spot on. Nobody is marching outside the city with Ole out banners. It's a forum for chatting and discussing things, right? And when someone like Pulis is about, that's what people will do. I bet they are already signing him up on the West Ham forum.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:21 pm

If the tea lady farted whilst wheeling her tea trolley through the corridors of Cardiff City stadium some City fans in typical knee jerk reaction would tell us that she should instantly dismissed and replaced pronto!, FFS lets give Ole the season he deserves and reserve judgement until then. :bluescarf:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:25 pm

Should have taken him when Malky left and maybe we would have stayed up!!

But at the time the majority of fans said. " no thanks " as they did with Ledley too !!!

If anyone thinks that Ole is a better manager than Pulis, then they are completely deluded !!!
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Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:26 pm

Anyone who wants ole out already and wants pulis in are clueless cunts , probably justin bieber looking mother fuckers who have been supporting Cardiff 2 minutes and want the glory of the premiership now or they are gonna quit and never watch cardiff again if we don't go up this season. Give ole time, decent start this season and make your decision on him after this season

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:35 pm

Idiots. At least give Ole a chance. :ole:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:38 pm

bluebird66 wrote:Should have taken him when Malky left and maybe we would have stayed up!!

But at the time the majority of fans said. " no thanks " as they did with Ledley too !!!

If anyone thinks that Ole is a better manager than Pulis, then they are completely deluded !!!


But pulis was manager of Palace when Malky was sacked.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:42 pm

Try looking at Pulis' record, nothing brilliant, mostly average, sometimes poor. Likes to play old fashioned kick and rush football, hoof it high up the middle and hope for the best. Be careful what you wish for.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:58 pm

markeMark wrote:Try looking at Pulis' record, nothing brilliant, mostly average, sometimes poor. Likes to play old fashioned kick and rush football, hoof it high up the middle and hope for the best. Be careful what you wish for.



Only won promotion twice over 20 years of management obviously with stoke a whiie in the prem

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:59 pm

In big business if a top Director/Chairman becomes available, a company would take him on above their inexperienced Director/Chairman.

It's a similar situation really, all people are saying there is a more experienced and thought of Manager available and we are taking a gamble on an unproven one, logic would say, take the best bet, and let the gamble go somewhere else.

In football people can be more loyal and say no give him a chance, only eventually for the inexperienced Manager to become experienced and successful and say, Cheerio thanks for the memories and move on to bigger and better clubs.....

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:00 pm

Pulis would have been ideal when Malky left.
Just what a struggling team needed. Sadly for us -palace got the benefit.
Ole was not the right man then.

Now however. Ole may be exactly what we need. Exciting, ambitious, hungry.
Moulding a team to attack the championship. Like all managers, some of his players will be duds.

Still bemuses me that we are all saying we need defenders at cb. Yet Hudson, turner and Connolly were here in the last championship under mm.
Are we now knocking ole because of this?
We do need a decent cb. Like we did in the champ under mm.
I don't think playing both kimbo and Daehli and/or whitts in the same team leaves us very light in what will be a lot of midfield battles this season.

I'm sure ole will be relishing this chance - so lets get behind our manager and support the boys :bluescarf: :ole: :bluescarf: :ole:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:03 pm

Agree that Ole should be given the backing for now. But if were outside the play offs at Christmas then maybe Tan will start looking elsewhere, especially if Pulis is still out of a job which I very much doubt.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:09 pm

CantonJack wrote:Agree that Ole should be given the backing for now. But if were outside the play offs at Christmas then maybe Tan will start looking elsewhere, especially if Pulis is still out of a job which I very much doubt.


It is only talk, Ole will get his chance, let's hope he gets off to a good start or you are right he will be gone by the new year....

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:15 pm

Im behind Ole 100% i really think he is the man for the job, he has good connections and a good attacking head on him, he will bring us to the playoffs! :ole:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:31 pm

Just give him a break!

Ole has been appointed and this is his first full season with his signings. If he is sacked his successor will need to buy in players. Where does it stop?

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:39 pm

:lol:

He took us down from a position when we were outside the relegation zone when he took over.

I can forgive him for that... but what fails to convince me of his managerial ability is that he actually thought the best way to keep a newly promoted team up was to play open, expansive football, instead of consolidating our place in the league by doing whatever it takes and grinding out results, and then spending the summer building a team in his style when we were an established Premier League club.

To me that showed naiviety, stupidity and a poor football brain, and that's what's unforgivable.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:19 pm

I don't think we played that open under Ole in the prem tbh. When he took over we had tough tough games. We then we're in a position where we had to go for wins which was never as important early in the season. We conceded a lot of late goals for that reason adding to that we had no real attacking players of good enough quality.
We were relegated and that proved Ole was the wrong man at that time but the blame lies equally if not more elsewhere.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:35 pm

scott_w_ccfc wrote::lol:

He took us down from a position when we were outside the relegation zone when he took over.

I can forgive him for that... but what fails to convince me of his managerial ability is that he actually thought the best way to keep a newly promoted team up was to play open, expansive football, instead of consolidating our place in the league by doing whatever it takes and grinding out results, and then spending the summer building a team in his style when we were an established Premier League club.

To me that showed naiviety, stupidity and a poor football brain, and that's what's unforgivable.


ffs havnt you learned we were going down fast, we wasnt grinding out enough results to keep us in premier! our defence was porous only fulham was worse!!! ole took over when team was in decline yes maybe he was bit naive but didnt have much time to sort out anything! can blame equally several other people besides ole for relegation, and judging by what hes doing now in way of players coming in there are not many if any complaining on that side things. only time will tell if ole has the ability to create a winning team out of his recruites. :old:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:49 pm

Bluebina wrote:In big business if a top Director/Chairman becomes available, a company would take him on above their inexperienced Director/Chairman.

It's a similar situation really, all people are saying there is a more experienced and thought of Manager available and we are taking a gamble on an unproven one, logic would say, take the best bet, and let the gamble go somewhere else.

In football people can be more loyal and say no give him a chance, only eventually for the inexperienced Manager to become experienced and successful and say, Cheerio thanks for the memories and move on to bigger and better clubs.....


I think you´re a bit one-dimensional with your emphasis on experience. I think Crystal Palace could have reasons to be quite jealous on the squad OUR manager has been able to pull together with the cost of close to nothing. What are Pulis signings in this window? CP is a premier league side, still I´m not sure I would swap squad with them at the moment. Would you? And how many of our promising new signings would be here without Ole? Would Daehli be here? Giving Ole the boot now, see THAT would be a gamble.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:53 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:We have just started a new season. Ole has had a full pre-season for the first time as Cardiff City manager. We kicked off with a draw at a team fancied for the top 6. We've progressed to the second round of the League Cup. A decent start.

So why are people saying we should get rid of Ole and bring in Pulis? It's a ridiculous suggestion. Solskjaer deserves the chance to take us up. He's been in the job 8 months, that's all. Yes, we got relegated but he had a huge job on his hands.

Ole has to stay, show us all that he can take us back up. Besides, Pulis has lost two jobs in just over a year. He wouldn't want to go flying in to a new job straightaway.

Ole gets my backing, and I hope he has the full support of the whole home crowd on Saturday and for the rest of the season.

In Ole we trust :ayatollah: :ole: :bluescarf:


I have sympathy with your course, but nothing to get fuzzed up about really. Just a play of thoughts. I think everyone realizes that hoping for the board to sack Ole now is like hoping for Santa to give them pussy for christmas.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:02 am

pembroke allan wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote::lol:

He took us down from a position when we were outside the relegation zone when he took over.

I can forgive him for that... but what fails to convince me of his managerial ability is that he actually thought the best way to keep a newly promoted team up was to play open, expansive football, instead of consolidating our place in the league by doing whatever it takes and grinding out results, and then spending the summer building a team in his style when we were an established Premier League club.

To me that showed naiviety, stupidity and a poor football brain, and that's what's unforgivable.


ffs havnt you learned we were going down fast, we wasnt grinding out enough results to keep us in premier! our defence was porous only fulham was worse!!! ole took over when team was in decline yes maybe he was bit naive but didnt have much time to sort out anything! can blame equally several other people besides ole for relegation, and judging by what hes doing now in way of players coming in there are not many if any complaining on that side things. only time will tell if ole has the ability to create a winning team out of his recruites. :old:


Spot on

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:17 am

Dve wrote:
Bluebina wrote:In big business if a top Director/Chairman becomes available, a company would take him on above their inexperienced Director/Chairman.

It's a similar situation really, all people are saying there is a more experienced and thought of Manager available and we are taking a gamble on an unproven one, logic would say, take the best bet, and let the gamble go somewhere else.

In football people can be more loyal and say no give him a chance, only eventually for the inexperienced Manager to become experienced and successful and say, Cheerio thanks for the memories and move on to bigger and better clubs.....


I think you´re a bit one-dimensional with your emphasis on experience. I think Crystal Palace could have reasons to be quite jealous on the squad OUR manager has been able to pull together with the cost of close to nothing. What are Pulis signings in this window? CP is a premier league side, still I´m not sure I would swap squad with them at the moment. Would you? And how many of our promising new signings would be here without Ole? Would Daehli be here? Giving Ole the boot now, see THAT would be a gamble.



He wanted better players that's why he left Palace. He wanted Caulker and Sigurdson and other players but they wouldn't give him a premiership budget. He also had a 42% win rate at Palace and finished 8th in the Premier League while he was there. When he took over they rock bottom and as good as down.

You make a great point about Ole's work in the transfer market. I agree it is a strength, he has built an amazing squad for a comparatively low budget that should be promoted at a canter. I am just not sure that Ole is capable of managing them through the season to promotion. I hope he does and proves us doubters wrong :thumbup:

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:16 am

My honest opinion is that ole is gonna take strange team selection risks all season, we wont make play-offs and he will be sacked !... I like the guy but thats what i reckon.

Re: What is wrong with everyone?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:29 am

Not sure you have realised but this forum is 80% negative