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OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:09 pm

Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:16 pm

Some help for you

Kübler-Ross originally developed this model based on her observations of people suffering from terminal illness. She later expanded her theory to apply to any form of catastrophic personal loss, such as the death of a loved one, the loss of a job or income, major rejection, the end of a relationship or divorce, drug addiction, incarceration, the onset of a disease or chronic illness, an infertility diagnosis, as well as many tragedies and disasters (and even minor losses).


1.Denial — As the reality of loss is hard to face, one of the first reactions to follow the loss is Denial. What this means is that the person is trying to shut out the reality or magnitude of his/her situation, and begins to develop a false, preferable reality.
2.Anger — "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; '"Who is to blame?"; "Why would God let this happen?"
Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. Anger can manifest itself in different ways. People can be angry with themselves, or with others, or at a higher power, and especially those who are close to them. It is important to remain detached and nonjudgmental when dealing with a person experiencing anger from grief.
3.Bargaining — "I'll do anything for a few more years."; "I will give my life savings if…"
The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow undo or avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Other times, they will use anything valuable as a bargaining chip against another human agency to extend or prolong the life they live. Psychologically, the individual is saying, "I understand I will die, but if I could just do something to buy more time…" People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example "Can we still be friends?" when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it is a matter of life or death.
4.Depression — "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one, why go on?"
During the fourth stage, the grieving person begins to understand the certainty of death. Much like the existential concept of The Void, the idea of living becomes pointless. Things begin to lose meaning to the griever. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and sullen. This process allows the grieving person to disconnect from things of love and affection, possibly in an attempt to avoid further trauma. Depression could be referred to as the dress rehearsal for the 'aftermath'. It is a kind of acceptance with emotional attachment. It is natural to feel sadness, regret, fear, and uncertainty when going through this stage. Feeling those emotions shows that the person has begun to accept the situation. Oftentimes, this is the ideal path to take, to find closure and make their ways to the fifth step, Acceptance.
5.Acceptance — "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."
In this last stage, individuals begin to come to terms with their mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. This stage varies according to the person's situation. People dying can enter this stage a long time before the people they leave behind, who must pass through their own individual stages of dealing with the grief. This typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable mindset.

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:20 pm

ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard, especially the last paragraph :lol:

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:24 pm

Malky is history. Feck sake move on. :sleepy2:

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:44 pm

salopiancity wrote:Malky is history. Feck sake move on. :sleepy2:

Hear Hear - :thumbup:

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:50 pm

salopiancity wrote:Malky is history. Feck sake move on. :sleepy2:


I will not be silenced.

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:56 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Some help for you

Kübler-Ross originally developed this model based on her observations of people suffering from terminal illness. She later expanded her theory to apply to any form of catastrophic personal loss, such as the death of a loved one, the loss of a job or income, major rejection, the end of a relationship or divorce, drug addiction, incarceration, the onset of a disease or chronic illness, an infertility diagnosis, as well as many tragedies and disasters (and even minor losses).


1.Denial — As the reality of loss is hard to face, one of the first reactions to follow the loss is Denial. What this means is that the person is trying to shut out the reality or magnitude of his/her situation, and begins to develop a false, preferable reality.
2.Anger — "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; '"Who is to blame?"; "Why would God let this happen?"
Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. Anger can manifest itself in different ways. People can be angry with themselves, or with others, or at a higher power, and especially those who are close to them. It is important to remain detached and nonjudgmental when dealing with a person experiencing anger from grief.
3.Bargaining — "I'll do anything for a few more years."; "I will give my life savings if…"
The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow undo or avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Other times, they will use anything valuable as a bargaining chip against another human agency to extend or prolong the life they live. Psychologically, the individual is saying, "I understand I will die, but if I could just do something to buy more time…" People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example "Can we still be friends?" when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it is a matter of life or death.
4.Depression — "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one, why go on?"
During the fourth stage, the grieving person begins to understand the certainty of death. Much like the existential concept of The Void, the idea of living becomes pointless. Things begin to lose meaning to the griever. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and sullen. This process allows the grieving person to disconnect from things of love and affection, possibly in an attempt to avoid further trauma. Depression could be referred to as the dress rehearsal for the 'aftermath'. It is a kind of acceptance with emotional attachment. It is natural to feel sadness, regret, fear, and uncertainty when going through this stage. Feeling those emotions shows that the person has begun to accept the situation. Oftentimes, this is the ideal path to take, to find closure and make their ways to the fifth step, Acceptance.
5.Acceptance — "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."
In this last stage, individuals begin to come to terms with their mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. This stage varies according to the person's situation. People dying can enter this stage a long time before the people they leave behind, who must pass through their own individual stages of dealing with the grief. This typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable mindset.


Good post! I think ProBlueBird is still at the Anger phase.

Give him time, I suppose... 8-)

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:58 pm

ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.
Last edited by bloobird97 on Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:59 pm

ProBlueAlways wrote:
salopiancity wrote:Malky is history. Feck sake move on. :sleepy2:


I will not be silenced.


Comment all you like, but if you yapp blindly enough then eventually no one will pay any attention, now join in a proper discussion instead of being a keyboard warrior muppet, if you are one of the people who think theyre being oppressed at every oppurtunity, go and join the other idiots at 4chan.......

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:00 pm

ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


That last paragraph is a load of bollocks, what it got to do with Malky if we get promoted? Please enlighten me. :?

Re: OLE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:57 pm

ProBlueAlways wrote:
salopiancity wrote:Malky is history. Feck sake move on. :sleepy2:


I will not be silenced.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup: :wave:

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:33 am

ProBlueAlways wrote:
salopiancity wrote:Malky is history. Feck sake move on. :sleepy2:


I will not be silenced.


But maybe ignored.

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:04 am

Gosh there are some idiots on this board :sleepy2:

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:20 am

Move on. Stop moaning

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:38 am

ProBlueAlways wrote:
salopiancity wrote:Malky is history. Feck sake move on. :sleepy2:


I will not be silenced.


I was a Malky fan & believe that he should have been kept on for the season. I also believe that he would have kept us up

But for he's been gone quite a while now so just move on on ffs.
If you support Cardiff City then then support them. Lots of people have doubts over Ole including me but why not give him a bloody chance? Get behind him & the team ...... It might get rid of your anger & bitterness & you may even enjoy the football!!

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:23 am

bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.

Rather than coming out with rubbish like this maybe you should learn to turn up at the coach on time so Vince doesn't have to run around collecting you like the bunch of wandering girl guides you are.

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:44 am

Green Arrow wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.

Rather than coming out with rubbish like this maybe you should learn to turn up at the coach on time so Vince doesn't have to run around collecting you like the bunch of wandering girl guides you are.


:laughing5: :notworthy:

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:26 am

ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


how would lennie lawrence have done mate? seeing as we're picking random old managers names out and guessing how they'd done?

f*cking fool

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:31 am

bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.


those who have ANY opinion of ole as a manager at this stage of his time with is (first game with a proper pre-season behind him and his own players) is a moron. judging a manager after 1 game in to the season for fucks sake.

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:34 am

its also worth noting that when malky first came here the reception was lukewarm at best. i seem to recall a great number of people wanting to give jones one more season, and a great many more wishing we'd got houghton

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:57 am

Green Arrow wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.

Rather than coming out with rubbish like this maybe you should learn to turn up at the coach on time so Vince doesn't have to run around collecting you like the bunch of wandering girl guides you are.


Grow up you old fart, what don't you agree with, has Ole impressed you in any way!? Seriously what is this guys plan? I don't think he has one or can think of one. Fluid attacking football?! Didn't see that on Friday, only hoof it to Kenwyne!

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:01 am

bloobird97 wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.

Rather than coming out with rubbish like this maybe you should learn to turn up at the coach on time so Vince doesn't have to run around collecting you like the bunch of wandering girl guides you are.


Grow up you old fart, what don't you agree with, has Ole impressed you in any way!? Seriously what is this guys plan? I don't think he has one or can think of one. Fluid attacking football?! Didn't see that on Friday, only hoof it to Kenwyne!


malkys first game in the champ was a 1-0 win against WHU but we were anything BUT good. we were pretty poor that day and very lucky. were you slating him then? claiming he had no plan? some people are just terrible.

but yeah, slate him one game in to the season (where we didnt lose...away from home) seems like the mature thing to do

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:01 am

AlwaysBBlue wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.


those who have ANY opinion of ole as a manager at this stage of his time with is (first game with a proper pre-season behind him and his own players) is a moron. judging a manager after 1 game in to the season for fucks sake.


He has already had 2 transfer windows! Jesus I'll judge him when I want, he completely flopped in the prem. it remains to be seen in the championship. But by Fridays showing things aren't getting much better for him!

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:04 am

AlwaysBBlue wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.

Rather than coming out with rubbish like this maybe you should learn to turn up at the coach on time so Vince doesn't have to run around collecting you like the bunch of wandering girl guides you are.


Grow up you old fart, what don't you agree with, has Ole impressed you in any way!? Seriously what is this guys plan? I don't think he has one or can think of one. Fluid attacking football?! Didn't see that on Friday, only hoof it to Kenwyne!


malkys first game in the champ was a 1-0 win against WHU but we were anything BUT good. we were pretty poor that day and very lucky. were you slating him then? claiming he had no plan? some people are just terrible.

but yeah, slate him one game in to the season (where we didnt lose...away from home) seems like the mature thing to do


MM had a plan in that game if I remember correctly, sit back and try to keep a clean sheet. As nearly every game under Malky went! Ole said fluid attacking football! Friday shows he was talking out of his arse!

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:23 am

bloobird97 wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.

Rather than coming out with rubbish like this maybe you should learn to turn up at the coach on time so Vince doesn't have to run around collecting you like the bunch of wandering girl guides you are.


Grow up you old fart, what don't you agree with, has Ole impressed you in any way!? Seriously what is this guys plan? I don't think he has one or can think of one. Fluid attacking football?! Didn't see that on Friday, only hoof it to Kenwyne!


malkys first game in the champ was a 1-0 win against WHU but we were anything BUT good. we were pretty poor that day and very lucky. were you slating him then? claiming he had no plan? some people are just terrible.

but yeah, slate him one game in to the season (where we didnt lose...away from home) seems like the mature thing to do


MM had a plan in that game if I remember correctly, sit back and try to keep a clean sheet. As nearly every game under Malky went! Ole said fluid attacking football! Friday shows he was talking out of his arse!


Repeat: Move on.

Re: OLE

Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:53 am

bloobird97 wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:
bloobird97 wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:Out of his depth for me. Blackburn were there for the taking but Oles tactics and subs meant we got weaker and weaker throughout the game. Malky would have got a win up there but then again if we kept Malky we wouldn't be in the Championship this season.

I have never been a fan of Ole but I will get behind the team because should we go up this season it would be Malkys excellent work on and off the pitch that should get the largest amount of credit. He changed this club like no other manager we have had.


Completely agree, Blackburn would have been incredibly vulnerable had we got some quality in the centre of the park. Quite disappointing, but will take a point away from home in this league any day.
Those who think Ole is a good manager are deluded.

Rather than coming out with rubbish like this maybe you should learn to turn up at the coach on time so Vince doesn't have to run around collecting you like the bunch of wandering girl guides you are.


Grow up you old fart, what don't you agree with, has Ole impressed you in any way!? Seriously what is this guys plan? I don't think he has one or can think of one. Fluid attacking football?! Didn't see that on Friday, only hoof it to Kenwyne!

Old fart? I'm in my early 20s. Maybe if you spent as much time reading bus timetables as you do disrespecting your elders you wouldn't miss them you little twerp.