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Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:18 am
Although i know the club wants to try and force Inter into paying an asking price that could be deemed over the odds, do you think that this may hamper us in trying to being future big names to the club if it is then hard to get away if relegated? I think playing hardball for a realistic price is fair enough, but demanding figures like 12 million is just going to stop players seeing us a short term stepping stone, which is realistically what we need them to see us as. Not a club that will handcuff their ambitions. Are we putting pride before sense?
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:22 am
TheRow wrote:Although i know the club wants to try and force Inter into paying an asking price that could be deemed over the odds, do you think that this may hamper us in trying to being future big names to the club if it is then hard to get away if relegated? I think playing hardball for a realistic price is fair enough, but demanding figures like 12 million is just going to stop players seeing us a short term stepping stone, which is realistically what we need them to see us as. Not a club that will handcuff their ambitions. Are we putting pride before sense?
Bloody he had a great World Cup so we should at least get our money back on him
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:23 am
TheRow wrote:Although i know the club wants to try and force Inter into paying an asking price that could be deemed over the odds, do you think that this may hamper us in trying to being future big names to the club if it is then hard to get away if relegated? I think playing hardball for a realistic price is fair enough, but demanding figures like 12 million is just going to stop players seeing us a short term stepping stone, which is realistically what we need them to see us as. Not a club that will handcuff their ambitions. Are we putting pride before sense?
Bloody he had a great World Cup so we should at least get our money back on him
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:23 am
TheRow wrote:Although i know the club wants to try and force Inter into paying an asking price that could be deemed over the odds, do you think that this may hamper us in trying to being future big names to the club if it is then hard to get away if relegated? I think playing hardball for a realistic price is fair enough, but demanding figures like 12 million is just going to stop players seeing us a short term stepping stone, which is realistically what we need them to see us as. Not a club that will handcuff their ambitions. Are we putting pride before sense?
Bloody he had a great World Cup so we should at least get our money back on him
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:26 am
He was happy to sign a 4 year contract for high wages.considering he was rated as one of the stars of the world cup i dont think its too much to get our money back on him, especially when you see 19yr olds going for 30 million.Greedy players will chase the money around so dont worry about not being able to sign anyone.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:30 am
Not all clubs are stupid though. Yes he played well a couple of times at the world cup but that doesn't mean his realistic value (not the unrealistic value we bought him for) goes from 6 million to 12 million. Gonzalo Jara also had a good world cup for Chile but his value at Mainz wouldn't have doubled, so quite how we expect Medels to have doubled after a relegation and what was personally a pretty average season is not realistic. I honestly think future big players may look at this saga and now baulk at the chance to switch to us if it arrises in the future.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:38 am
TheRow wrote:Although i know the club wants to try and force Inter into paying an asking price that could be deemed over the odds, do you think that this may hamper us in trying to being future big names to the club if it is then hard to get away if relegated? I think playing hardball for a realistic price is fair enough, but demanding figures like 12 million is just going to stop players seeing us a short term stepping stone, which is realistically what we need them to see us as. Not a club that will handcuff their ambitions. Are we putting pride before sense?
What a load of shit, this situation is inter just taking the piss out of Cardiff city, Man U Liverpool or Chelsea wouldn't be taken the piss out of, it's great Cardiff city are standing firm showing some pride and well done dalman.
Players will always sign for us in future if we are premier league and just negotiate a minimum fee release clause like caulker had in his contract. Show some pride man
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:38 am
TheRow wrote:Not all clubs are stupid though. Yes he played well a couple of times at the world cup but that doesn't mean his realistic value (not the unrealistic value we bought him for) goes from 6 million to 12 million. Gonzalo Jara also had a good world cup for Chile but his value at Mainz wouldn't have doubled, so quite how we expect Medels to have doubled after a relegation and what was personally a pretty average season is not realistic. I honestly think future big players may look at this saga and now baulk at the chance to switch to us if it arrises in the future.
We are asking for £10 mill not £12 and it is what we paid for him 12 months ago prior to a storming WC. Also when another suitor have offered the £10 million asking price what club in their right mind would accept less than that figure and accept a loss?
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:43 am
Nothing to do with lack of pride, its about long term goals. Every man and his dog knows we over paid so setting that as a base is just silly after the season we as a club and he as a player had. A few games at the world cup (they only got to last 32) doesn't negate that and boost his price to the tune we are asking. Like i said i think its pride before sense in this case.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:52 am
I think you are not being realistic... the club paid 10million ..he had a great world cup and we have been offered 10 million by galatasaray... Inter have turned the player's head and want him on the cheap... the club is showing it will not be pressured into letting players go on the cheap... I am sure that if they came up with a more REALISTIC offer City would deal...where do you get that 6 million from??
Players will come if we return to the prem because we pay high wages... they can always write in escape clauses in their contracts...we paid 8 million for Caulker and sold him for 8.... For once CARDIFF are doing the right thing with Medel. You want him pay the price...you don't then go away ..simples
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:58 am
Liverpool paid 35 million for Andy Carroll, do you think if he had a couple of good games in the world cup group stages they could get that back and more? No chance. It is well reported about Sevilla's valuation of Medel which was 6 million. Just because we were stupid and offered double doesnt mean he is worth it and neither will anybody else. I dont think others have matched that price hamburg dont do things that way. People are getting way too fixated on what we paid.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:59 am
No.
we'll only be signing top players if we ger promoted.
As for medel they should just pay up. Stupid money flying around for players from the top 4 just cis they are top 4.
if he played for arsenal it would of been 15 million
Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:59 am
No.
we'll only be signing top players if we ger promoted.
As for medel they should just pay up. Stupid money flying around for players from the top 4 just cis they are top 4.
if he played for arsenal it would of been 15 million
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:18 am
Why is everyone so concerned about the fee. It is not as if any of us are getting a share of it. Neither necessarily will the Club. Although our owner might find the loose change handy, I suppose.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:23 am
Colourblind wrote:Why is everyone so concerned about the fee. It is not as if any of us are getting a share of it. Neither necessarily will the Club. Although our owner might find the loose change handy, I suppose.
Mate,it means the debt we owe Tan will be lower
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:25 am
How are things Roathy, (love the new name

But why "The row")
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:29 am
It is likely that selling Medel for the right price is a requirement for getting the central defender OGS wants.
Hold on to him until the money is in and your fingernails bleed.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:31 am
Grumpyguts wrote:How are things Roathy, (love the new name

But why "The row")
Brian, Chris is a genuine poster,before we let him on,he Facebooked me
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:31 am
Post like that should be removed by mods, utterly pointless. Rowan is my middle name, been called Row since i was a kid. Not that it needs explaining.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:37 am
Sorry missed that above cheers Annis.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:38 am
TheRow wrote:Post like that should be removed by mods, utterly pointless. Rowan is my middle name, been called Row since i was a kid. Not that it needs explaining.
Why should it be removed? are you a control freak?
I genuinly can see similarities between you and he and said so.
Am I not entitled to express what I think.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:43 am
Grumpyguts wrote:TheRow wrote:Post like that should be removed by mods, utterly pointless. Rowan is my middle name, been called Row since i was a kid. Not that it needs explaining.
Why should it be removed? are you a control freak?
I genuinly can see similarities between you and he and said so.
Am I not entitled to express what I think.
The likes of Barry Chuckle takes everything good about this site and makes it bad and is encouraged to carry on. Very disillusioned with this site after quite a few years of enjoying it, Thanks Alex (Chuckles) . or Townhill whatever your medication deems you are today.
Honestly Brian, Chris is a genuine person from FB, no one gets on this forum unless checked out nowadays
Looking forward to a drink and a chat with you this season Brian
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:46 am
It doesn t detract from the fact that Inter Milan are offering a pittance and are taking the p... are you happy to let him go 6 million... if we paid 10 I wouldn t be... they apparently wanted to put1 million down and pay the rest over 3 years... if CARDIFF want 10 million back...I say good for them... The CARROLL analogy doesn t come anywhere near comparison...Money bags Chelses paid 50mill for Torres so Liverpool used some of that silly money to get Carroll. Medel had a good World cup ...there are so money clubs paying over the odds for players out there why should we not try and get our money back or at least 8 million.
I respect your opinon chris but I don't agree with it
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:46 am
Grumpyguts wrote:TheRow wrote:Post like that should be removed by mods, utterly pointless. Rowan is my middle name, been called Row since i was a kid. Not that it needs explaining.
Why should it be removed? are you a control freak?
I genuinly can see similarities between you and he and said so.
Am I not entitled to express what I think.
The likes of Barry Chuckle takes everything good about this site and makes it bad and is encouraged to carry on. Very disillusioned with this site after quite a few years of enjoying it, Thanks Alex (Chuckles) . or Townhill whatever your medication deems you are today.
Because it causes arguments and takes threads off topic. You are giving a genuine city fan aggro for nothing.cant comment on
Barry Chuckle, haven't spoken to the man. Thats me done with this thread anyway better things to do than squabble over such trash, wasa genuine thread.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:41 am
TheRow wrote:Liverpool paid 35 million for Andy Carroll, do you think if he had a couple of good games in the world cup group stages they could get that back and more? No chance. It is well reported about Sevilla's valuation of Medel which was 6 million. Just because we were stupid and offered double doesnt mean he is worth it and neither will anybody else. I dont think others have matched that price hamburg dont do things that way. People are getting way too fixated on what we paid.
But what you are conveniently leaving out is that Galatasaray have offered what the club are asking for. This means it is a seller's market for Medel. Just because Medel would prefer Inter, tough shit. You say in the above that no one else would pay what we did, but the fact is that in incorrect. If there were no other interest or offers at all then you may have a point, but how can you honestly say the club are being silly by not accepting a lowball offer when there are other offers on the table at the price Cardiff deemed acceptable.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:21 am
The club is a business, not a charity. Compared to other players of a similar stature, £10m would not seem to be an unfair asking price, particularly after his world cup performances. A contract is a contract, and I would prefer us to get a fair price than than see our players leave for a pittance because of poor negotiations when original contracts were drawn up, and we've had first hand experience of this in the last couple of months.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:42 am
I don't really agree with some of this post, but it is a good point about attracting top players. In fact, there is a tendency for newly-promoted sides to pay towards the high end to bring in quality. I don't agree with the £6m valuation, simply because £10m has apparently been offered by Gala.
Maybe what we need to guard against is washing our dirty linen in public. For me, the worst part of last year was the constant circus which IMO had a negative effect on the field. Let's try to keep dignity. As fad as this deal is concerned, I think the club, manager and chairman have acted totally professionally. I'm quick enough to criticise Tan when he does wrong, but fair play in this case, we need a negotiator.
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