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How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:34 am

With the rerturn of Maynard and mason from loan spells, the added new players and the forgotten men, how do you see us using all our strikers.
Good premier league sides have around 4 good strikers, but who do u see ole using the most?


Originally, I liked the idea of guerra with macheda or le fondre, however mason has shown good movement in pre season and looks lively and Maynard is showing some good signs too.

I would still hope that we could find a new club for Kenwyn jones and it seems ole wants to see what Velikonja can do, although I'm guessing he's prob putting him in the shop window maybe?


Thoughts?

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:37 am

I can see a couple being loaned out, perhaps sell Maynard on.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:35 pm

We won't keep them all happy.

Personally I'd sell Maynard and loan or sell Mason with a bug sell on.

The new boys as first choice with Jones on the bench as another bigger option.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:46 pm

Macheda, guerra, lefondre will be first choices. Ole said mason will get his chances.
Maynard and Berget to go out on loan or sold in my opinion. Jones will be hard to move on because of wages and he offers something different if ole and his team can get him playing so might be worth keeping.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:55 pm

Berget has been used more as a left wing alternative against Bath, Camarthen and Teuta Durres - and he played really well in all three matches.

I'd say Ole is planning to rotate Macheda with Mason, and Le Fondre with Jones season throughout, and use both Berget and Maynard as rotation alternatives for Dæhli and Noone, respectively.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:22 pm

Plenty of choice, especially with them all getting goals. Fist time for years we've had more than 3 decent strikers.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:38 pm

If we keep both cup runs going then thats a lot of games, weve got the squad to do it too, if we go out early then we may see some of our strikers getting unsettled. It was interesting to watch the friendlies. Mason played well with maynard. Guerra has a good understanding with kiko but was great with alfie too except he should have passed. Berget is useful on the wing if he has fabio or john to give pace. I think guerra an mahnard may be too similar but the combinations are endless so we can play whoever is in form.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:52 pm

Metal Handkerchief wrote:Berget has been used more as a left wing alternative against Bath, Camarthen and Teuta Durres - and he played really well in all three matches.

I'd say Ole is planning to rotate Macheda with Mason, and Le Fondre with Jones season throughout, and use both Berget and Maynard as rotation alternatives for Dæhli and Noone, respectively.


I don't about using Maynard and Berget on the wings.
New player burgstaller is a winger and surely will be played and there is kim, better than both maynard and Berget. They would be 3rd choice out wide.
Not sure if the club can afford to keep that many players I see some of them going out on loan.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:39 pm

Tommy2 wrote:
Metal Handkerchief wrote:Berget has been used more as a left wing alternative against Bath, Camarthen and Teuta Durres - and he played really well in all three matches.

I'd say Ole is planning to rotate Macheda with Mason, and Le Fondre with Jones season throughout, and use both Berget and Maynard as rotation alternatives for Dæhli and Noone, respectively.


I don't about using Maynard and Berget on the wings.
New player burgstaller is a winger and surely will be played and there is kim, better than both maynard and Berget. They would be 3rd choice out wide.
Not sure if the club can afford to keep that many players I see some of them going out on loan.


Noone is injury prone though, and starting the preseason injured anyway, there will need to be 3 right wingers at least for the first half of the season and Maynard probably doesn't have very high wages anyway.

Kim is irrelevant in this discussion, he's not a (good) winger nor a striker. And a totally different type of player from Berget anyway. Berget is a forward-surging inwards-cutting muscle brute with very good passing vision and a decent long shot, while Kim is more of an in-the-pocket shortpass distributor and free kick winner, and a plan B box-to-box.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:38 pm

Metal Handkerchief wrote:
Tommy2 wrote:
Metal Handkerchief wrote:Berget has been used more as a left wing alternative against Bath, Camarthen and Teuta Durres - and he played really well in all three matches.

I'd say Ole is planning to rotate Macheda with Mason, and Le Fondre with Jones season throughout, and use both Berget and Maynard as rotation alternatives for Dæhli and Noone, respectively.


I don't about using Maynard and Berget on the wings.
New player burgstaller is a winger and surely will be played and there is kim, better than both maynard and Berget. They would be 3rd choice out wide.
Not sure if the club can afford to keep that many players I see some of them going out on loan.


Noone is injury prone though, and starting the preseason injured anyway, there will need to be 3 right wingers at least for the first half of the season and Maynard probably doesn't have very high wages anyway.

Kim is irrelevant in this discussion, he's not a (good) winger nor a striker. And a totally different type of player from Berget anyway. Berget is a forward-surging inwards-cutting muscle brute with very good passing vision and a decent long shot, while Kim is more of an in-the-pocket shortpass distributor and free kick winner, and a plan B box-to-box.

Berget is not a natural back up for mats or noone. I am gonna guess he will be back up for burgstaller. If ole needs more muscles out wide.
Kim was played out wide so I don't find him irrelevant to the discussion at all. I know he isn't the best winger but he gets muscled of the ball too easily if you play him in a more central position.

Re: How will we accommodate all our strikers.

Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:10 am

Tommy2 wrote:
Metal Handkerchief wrote:
Tommy2 wrote:
Metal Handkerchief wrote:Berget has been used more as a left wing alternative against Bath, Camarthen and Teuta Durres - and he played really well in all three matches.

I'd say Ole is planning to rotate Macheda with Mason, and Le Fondre with Jones season throughout, and use both Berget and Maynard as rotation alternatives for Dæhli and Noone, respectively.


I don't about using Maynard and Berget on the wings.
New player burgstaller is a winger and surely will be played and there is kim, better than both maynard and Berget. They would be 3rd choice out wide.
Not sure if the club can afford to keep that many players I see some of them going out on loan.


Noone is injury prone though, and starting the preseason injured anyway, there will need to be 3 right wingers at least for the first half of the season and Maynard probably doesn't have very high wages anyway.

Kim is irrelevant in this discussion, he's not a (good) winger nor a striker. And a totally different type of player from Berget anyway. Berget is a forward-surging inwards-cutting muscle brute with very good passing vision and a decent long shot, while Kim is more of an in-the-pocket shortpass distributor and free kick winner, and a plan B box-to-box.

Berget is not a natural back up for mats or noone. I am gonna guess he will be back up for burgstaller. If ole needs more muscles out wide.
Kim was played out wide so I don't find him irrelevant to the discussion at all. I know he isn't the best winger but he gets muscled of the ball too easily if you play him in a more central position.


Not a 100% natural, but he does have the ability to deliver out wide. He has always been what we call a potato in Norway (means useful for a lot of things) and while he's naturally a no. 10 type player, he's delivered in all the typical attacking positions, even as a target man.

Berget's main strength is his versatility, I'm sure he will play a lot of matches in a very condensed fixture list as backup or rotation in a wide range of positions.

And to be honest, I'm not particularly impressed with Burgstaller (comparatively) - Berget seems both faster, more technical, has a better through pass eye and is stronger. Burgstaller perhaps has the advantage in crosses and long shots.