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' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:05 pm

Should Cardiff City cash in on star keeper David Marshall?
Scott Johnson says YES and Terry Phillips says NO

Thursday Jul 10, 2014



By Terry Phillips, Scott Johnson


After Cardiff City brought young keeper Charlie Horton into their squad today, our writers look at whether they should cash in
on David Marshall, at the right price. Scott Johnson says YES and Terry Phillips says NO.


Cash in at the right price - Scott Johnson

What is David Marshall worth?

It’s a question that has been doing the rounds for the best part a year now, as a series of extraordinary saves made him one of the Premier League’s outstanding performers last season.

Now that Cardiff City find themselves back in the second tier, it is only natural that there would be a great deal of speculation regarding Marshall’s future.


The fact that he is a very good goalkeeper is now accepted, but just how good is he?




In terms of Cardiff’s chances of returning to the top flight, he is nigh on priceless. But in football, everyone has a price and Marshall’s appears to range from around £8m, up to as much as £15m.

For some sort of context, Keylor Navas, the ‘David Marshall of the World Cup,’ has emerged as a fully formed star and was largely responsible for Costa Rica’s impressive performance. Although seasoned La Liga watchers will point out that he has been in impressive form for Levante for quite some time now.

He is seemingly available for around £8m, about the same price being touted for Celtic’s Fraser Forster.

With a big contract behind him, that sounds about right for Marshall too, who is not in the same class as David De Gea, who cost Manchester United around twice that amount.

Marshall appears to be content at the club, who insist no offers have yet been received, but if an offer around the £10m mark should materialise, there is a number of reasons why they should accept it.

Firstly, the club has mountains of debt and a large proportion of any money raised from the sales of Marshall, Gary Medel or Steven Caulker should go towards serving that debt.

Also, Marshall deserves another shot at the Premier League. Cardiff afforded him the opportunity to excel at the highest level and he certainly grasped it. At 29, this may be his last chance of a big move.

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:32 pm

A big NO from me. Think he is one of our big players I would be gutted if left. Caulker, medel, Campbell can be replaced by Marshall could give us 20 points this season. :bluescarf:

Stand firm VT :thumbup:

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:55 pm

This is missing by terry philips :thumbup:

The most important factor is that Marshall is not irreplaceable.

As impressive as his recent performances have been, his five years at the club have not always been of this standard. A couple of seasons ago, there were plenty of fans who felt Tom Heaton should have been first choice. Maybe he has now turned a corner, or maybe he is a few clangers away from the more erratic player he was a few years ago. Only time will tell.

If he were to leave, there are plenty of talented goalkeepers littered throughout the Championship, available for a fraction of the money Cardiff would receive for Marshall.

Would Tomas Kusczsack, Adam Bogdan, Alex McCarthy, Ali Al-Habsi or Scott Carson represent a significant decrease in quality?

My personal opinion is that no bids will materialise and he will stay, which would be great in terms of continuity and morale.

I would be delighted if Scotland’s number one were to remain Cardiff’s number one, but I would feel a little bit uncomfortable if it was at the expense of a large eight, or even nine-figure sum.

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:03 pm

Igovernor wrote:This is missing by terry philips :thumbup:

The most important factor is that Marshall is not irreplaceable.

As impressive as his recent performances have been, his five years at the club have not always been of this standard. A couple of seasons ago, there were plenty of fans who felt Tom Heaton should have been first choice. Maybe he has now turned a corner, or maybe he is a few clangers away from the more erratic player he was a few years ago. Only time will tell.

If he were to leave, there are plenty of talented goalkeepers littered throughout the Championship, available for a fraction of the money Cardiff would receive for Marshall.

Would Tomas Kusczsack, Adam Bogdan, Alex McCarthy, Ali Al-Habsi or Scott Carson represent a significant decrease in quality?

My personal opinion is that no bids will materialise and he will stay, which would be great in terms of continuity and morale.

I would be delighted if Scotland’s number one were to remain Cardiff’s number one, but I would feel a little bit uncomfortable if it was at the expense of a large eight, or even nine-figure sum.




CHEERS Governor :thumbright:

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:07 pm

Annis, looking at that again t seems all of it is by that scott chap, I cannot see the Terry Philips bit on wales online, typical :thumbup:

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:09 pm

Sorry here it is :thumbup:

Keep at all costs - Terry Phillips
David Marshall is a major player in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s plans to take Cardiff City back to the top flight and must not be allowed to move on.

The Glasgow-born stopper is under contract until 2018 and, crucially, he isn’t pushing to go. Indeed, during two chats I’ve had with Marshall he has made it clear both he and his family love life in South Wales. They want to stay.

He has never been the type of player to agitate about moving on. Marshall has committed to Cardiff and says he would love to be part of a team which regains the club’s place at Premier League level.

Chairman Mehmet Dalman and manager Solskjaer are the key men on Cardiff City transfers. Dalman is the go-to man in terms of bids - and he talks with Solskjaer at least once a day.

Owner Vincent Tan is also kept up-to-date with every move and there is no pressure to sell any player.

All three men know that if Cardiff accepted Southampton’s bid of £8m - the highest so far - they would have to spend the vast majority of that on a top quality replacement.

Should Cardiff City sell David Marshall?
YES
NO

Selling Marshall doesn’t make sense for Cardiff. He wants to stay, the Bluebirds want him to stay and they wouldn’t make any significant money from allowing him to move on.

The lure of Premier League football and a big jump in salary would most certainly be a plus for the player, but if Marshall was number two at a Premier League club that would surely damage his international chances.

Spurs have shown interest, but they have now tied Hugo Lloris to a five-year contract and that effectively rules Tottenham out. Arsenal have also shown interest, while Southampton are leading the way.

The Saints were a real force last season, but the loss of manager Mauricio Pochettino plus star players looks likely to mean they won’t have the same impact again and if he did move to the South coast Marshall would find himself facing another barrage of shots.

Marshall was magnificent last season, facing more shots than any other Premier League keeper and deservedly voted Cardiff City player of the year.

He loved playing at the top level and wants to get back there with Cardiff. As things stand Marshall is staying and it will take a massive offer to change that situation.

I watched Marshall training at the Vale of Glamorgan Resort earlier this week. His position with Cardiff is clear. He’s number one - and it’s clear Solskjaer, Tan and Dalman will resist any and every effort to take him away.

I expect Marshall to be Cardiff City’s starting goalkeeper at Blackburn Rovers on Friday, August 8.

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:09 pm

Igovernor wrote:Annis, looking at that again t seems all of it is by that scott chap, I cannot see the Terry Philips bit on wales online, typical :thumbup:

:lol:

I think your right, thanks again :thumbright:

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:18 pm

If we get a big offer then we should consider as much as id love him to stay. If we were offered £10m+ it really would be hard to turn that down and as it has been mentioned by Igoverner, theres plenty of other keepers out there.

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:27 pm

Yes. We are a Championship team and should sell when we get a big offer. If and/or when we get back to the PL we then spend wisely and bring in a keeper for that level. Having Marshall at this level is just like waiting for an asset to depreciate. His peak value is around about now to be honest. Cash in on him and then replace him with a keeper for less netting millions in profit.

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:33 pm

Depends on what David Marshall himself wants to do. He's under contract, so if he wants to stay, then that's his right. He will always be first choice for us, he'll get games in, and help his Scotland chances. By all accounts, he's happy here, and his family like living in the area.

If he wants to go, and we get a serious offer, then we should sell him. But only on those terms. We shouldn't force him out.

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:57 pm

One of the reasons he was our outstanding player last season was the ineffectiveness of the defence in front him, which gave him plenty of opportunities to be heavily involved in most matches. Not sure of the stats, but I would guess that he was called on to make more saves than most other keepers due to the lack of cover provided by our defenders.
Our back line will be up against a completely different class of striker next season, and should be able to shield our keeper far more effectively this time around. If our squad is as strong as some suggest, whoever plays in goal should be facing a lot less shots than Marshall has had to face during the last year.
It would be great if we could hold on to him, but I don't think it would be the end of the world if he moved on as I am sure a club with serious ambitions of returning to the Premiership should be able to attract a quality replacement.

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:13 pm

Green Arrow wrote:Yes. We are a Championship team and should sell when we get a big offer. If and/or when we get back to the PL we then spend wisely and bring in a keeper for that level. Having Marshall at this level is just like waiting for an asset to depreciate. His peak value is around about now to be honest. Cash in on him and then replace him with a keeper for less netting millions in profit.


Agree

Plus I think he deserves this chance.

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:28 pm

Yes defo imo :bluescarf:

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:53 pm

Annis, same as I said about Mutch, got to keep him at all costs, he will be the best keeper in the league and will be a major factor in hopefully another promotion this season! :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:06 pm

Not unless we have 15 mill to strengthen our squad

Re: ' Should Cardiff City Cash in? '

Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:13 pm

Is it just me or is anyone else wondering how Scott Johnson has been employed? Marshall not in the same class as De Gea? Marshal outperformed De Gea and every other Premiership keeper last season. Scott Johnson also suggested we go for Mancienne, who I don't rate at all. I disagree with everything Scott Johnson says, he seems totally clueless to me!

Getting back on topic, I think we should keep Marshall because with Ole's playing style leaving us open, we are going to need a top class keeper to bail us out on occasions.