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' Vincent Tan to list '

Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:11 pm

World Press

PUBLISHED TUESDAY JUNE 24, 2014

Vincent Tan to list MOL Global on Nasdaq in October this year.

[KUALA LUMPUR] Tycoon Vincent Tan is listing MOL Global Pte Ltd on Nasdaq in the US in October and expects the company to be worth US$3 billion in five years.

MOL, which bought social networking site Friendster Inc in 2009 for US$26.4 million, expects a market capitalisation of U$1 billion upon listing.

"Potentially, MOL can be a very big company. If you look at the market capitalisation of Internet companies, they are huge. China's Alibaba is worth almost US$300 billion, while Tencent, which owns WeChat, is around US$150 billion.
"Our target of US$3 billion may be a small fraction of that, but I do believe it can grow. We started the company with just RM2 million in 1999 and have invested RM150 million so far to expand.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:40 am

I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:03 am

Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.

Excellent Post!

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:10 am

Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.


Not quite true. Cardiff City certainly hasn't turned to gold with his touch!

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:15 am

Tan will turn us into a huge club by the time he leaves

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:27 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.


Not quite true. Cardiff City certainly hasn't turned to gold with his touch!


A person gives his views on our Chairman's
business record compared to previous chairman all true it seems. Like a little weed in the classroom you got to poke your tongue out.
You really are a horrible little child minded dick head to the extent, if you wear blue the rest would wear red, who the he'll would want to be like you. Our club has NO THIRD PARTY debt unlike most clubs for the first time since the 50, s and you can't see it.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:51 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.


Not quite true. Cardiff City certainly hasn't turned to gold with his touch!

:sleepy2:

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:56 am

Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.

Good post.

Hate the red kit and shit badge, but other than that he's only tried to improve us people can jump on the bandwagon (including the press) looking for an excuse to shoot down the pantomime villain but it's only the shirt and badge he has gone wrong with.
People look for and cling to the littlest of things to attack him with.

Given time he could turn us into a decent premiership outfit, we are starting to be run better, even notice things like Lim going and Dalman already doing a better job..

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:08 am

dannyblue wrote:A person gives his views on our Chairman's
business record compared to previous chairman all true it seems. Like a little weed in the classroom you got to poke your tongue out.

or just countering that post with a differing view. That is what forums are about, you know? :?

You really are a horrible little child minded dick head to the extent, if you wear blue the rest would wear red, who the he'll would want to be like you. Our club has NO THIRD PARTY debt unlike most clubs for the first time since the 50, s and you can't see it.

where have I claimed that the club still have 3rd party debt? Can you quote me please? You're just making things up. :laughing6: unless the debt is wiped (as promised by a Tan) then it will have to be paid off one day. Doesn't matter whether it is 3rd party or not, it will still have to be honoured.

Maybe YOU can't see THAT. :thumbright:

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:10 am

85harj wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Not quite true. Cardiff City certainly hasn't turned to gold with his touch!

:sleepy2:


You think it has then? Or are you trolling?

Please, counter my post if that's the case. :thumbright: how does a club that is back in the championship, with 150million of debt, playing in alien colours with its identity stripped and a split fan base, be classed as "turning to gold"? :D

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:17 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
85harj wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Not quite true. Cardiff City certainly hasn't turned to gold with his touch!

:sleepy2:


You think it has then? Or are you trolling?

Please, counter my post if that's the case. :thumbright: how does a club that is back in the championship, with 150million of debt, playing in alien colours with its identity stripped and a split fan base, be classed as "turning to gold"? :D


A trollmaster general telling others not to troll :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:35 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
85harj wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Not quite true. Cardiff City certainly hasn't turned to gold with his touch!

:sleepy2:


You think it has then? Or are you trolling?

Please, counter my post if that's the case. :thumbright: how does a club that is back in the championship, with 150million of debt, playing in alien colours with its identity stripped and a split fan base, be classed as "turning to gold"? :D

Where did I say anything like you have credited me with saying then?

Your a bigger wind up than anyone else on here. You passively abuse others but jam the report button when people have a little pop but I'm some ways you are the biggest bully on here.

The debt can be wiped out, it's been explained on here why maybe it hasn't ALL been wiped yet all to do with FFP, so he seems to know what he's doing.
He's changed personnel at the club after bad financial dealings (even got rid of his YES MAN Lim)
He's not spending millions in the championship to go back up he has LEARNT. He is keeping an eye on dealings, shows he realises he made a huge mistake first time around. Good on him for trying to fix it.

You can't blame Tan on us being back where we are, that was nearly odds on happening.
I've commented on the debt. You going to credit your hero Malky with some of that debt? Or blame it ALL on Tan who took a gamble on staying up by BACKING a football manager to buy decently and keep us up?

I'm not pro Tan before anyone gets childish, hate red and I'm not convinced completely by Tan yet but he is turning us I'm the right direction up to us if we want to push on with him.
Only thing I will criticise him for is the kit and badge it was a HUGE mistake and one I don't support, anything else you are all looking for is just digging for shit to chuck.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:42 am

85harj wrote:Where did I say anything like you have credited me with saying then?

haven't credited you with saying anything, I asked you questions... Hence the "?" :thumbright:

Your a bigger wind up than anyone else on here. You passively abuse others but jam the report button when people have a little pop but I'm some ways you are the biggest bully on here.

The debt can be wiped out, it's been explained on here why maybe it hasn't ALL been wiped yet all to do with FFP, so he seems to know what he's doing.
He's changed personnel at the club after bad financial dealings (even got rid of his YES MAN Lim)
He's not spending millions in the championship to go back up he has LEARNT. He is keeping an eye on dealings, shows he realises he made a huge mistake first time around. Good on him for trying to fix it.

I don't think he will ever wipe all the debt, that's just my opinion though. I don't trust the man.

You can't blame Tan on us being back where we are, that was nearly odds on happening.
I've commented on the debt. You going to credit your hero Malky with some of that debt? Or blame it ALL on Tan who took a gamble on staying up by BACKING a football manager to buy decently and keep us up?

you certainly CAN blame Tan. You can't have it both ways. You can't say Tan has learnt from his previous mistakes & then say you can't blame him. :laughing6: :laughing6:

why are you calling Mackay my hero? What a strange thing to say. I liked Mackay, just like I liked Lennie & Dave Jones, and just like I like OGS. :thumbright: Although I must say you do seem to like to think you know a lot about posters, despite only being on here since Saturday... Yet you say you aren't a multi. Hmmmm.

I'm not pro Tan before anyone gets childish, hate red and I'm not convinced completely by Tan yet but he is turning us I'm the right direction up to us if we want to push on with him.
Only thing I will criticise him for is the kit and badge it was a HUGE mistake and one I don't support, anything else you are all looking for is just digging for shit to chuck.

no, anything else is just differing opinions to you. There's other things I don't like regarding VT, just becuss you disagree, doesn't mean it's all shit. :sleepy2:

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:43 am

85harj wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
85harj wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Not quite true. Cardiff City certainly hasn't turned to gold with his touch!

:sleepy2:


You think it has then? Or are you trolling?

Please, counter my post if that's the case. :thumbright: how does a club that is back in the championship, with 150million of debt, playing in alien colours with its identity stripped and a split fan base, be classed as "turning to gold"? :D

Where did I say anything like you have credited me with saying then?

Your a bigger wind up than anyone else on here. You passively abuse others but jam the report button when people have a little pop but I'm some ways you are the biggest bully on here.

The debt can be wiped out, it's been explained on here why maybe it hasn't ALL been wiped yet all to do with FFP, so he seems to know what he's doing.
He's changed personnel at the club after bad financial dealings (even got rid of his YES MAN Lim)
He's not spending millions in the championship to go back up he has LEARNT. He is keeping an eye on dealings, shows he realises he made a huge mistake first time around. Good on him for trying to fix it.

You can't blame Tan on us being back where we are, that was nearly odds on happening.
I've commented on the debt. You going to credit your hero Malky with some of that debt? Or blame it ALL on Tan who took a gamble on staying up by BACKING a football manager to buy decently and keep us up?

I'm not pro Tan before anyone gets childish, hate red and I'm not convinced completely by Tan yet but he is turning us I'm the right direction up to us if we want to push on with him.
Only thing I will criticise him for is the kit and badge it was a HUGE mistake and one I don't support, anything else you are all looking for is just digging for shit to chuck.

Chuckles reported me 3 times in 2 minutes a few months ago . The mods told him to stop wasting their time. In his defence I think he has some maturity issues and thats being kind. But above all he is a compulsive liar, be very careful.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:53 am

Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.

There are those in his country who have stated that he is a corrupt crook'They have said this on television.Tan has refused to answer questions about this.He has taken no legal action against those who spoke on television.(Why).

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:55 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
dannyblue wrote:A person gives his views on our Chairman's
business record compared to previous chairman all true it seems. Like a little weed in the classroom you got to poke your tongue out.

or just countering that post with a differing view. That is what forums are about, you know? :?

You really are a horrible little child minded dick head to the extent, if you wear blue the rest would wear red, who the he'll would want to be like you. Our club has NO THIRD PARTY debt unlike most clubs for the first time since the 50, s and you can't see it.

where have I claimed that the club still have 3rd party debt? Can you quote me please? You're just making things up. :laughing6: unless the debt is wiped (as promised by a Tan) then it will have to be paid off one day. Doesn't matter whether it is 3rd party or not, it will still have to be honoured.

Maybe YOU can't see THAT. :thumbright:


You don't give differing views you distort facts.
Of course the club has every chance of being huge as the post implies. Of course third party debt is a much worse situation than owners risk. The post indicates over time Tans plan on Cardiff is of similar substance. Paying off debtors is part of it.Why funking argue for the sake of it.
I can see the facts. My business established over my adult lifetime has shown me that there is a massive difference between owners carrying debt/losses to third parties. You speak on behalf of your agenda and not on the fact that we are lucky to have Tan. I and many support the club which for obvious reasons supports Tan at the same time so man up. Admit it.Better still stop moaning or stop going. There you have your choices.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:56 am

I'll reply when I get on the laptop :lol:

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:00 am

dannyblue wrote:
You don't give differing views you distort facts.

nope. Different views, just like I said. :thumbright:

Of course the club has every chance of being huge as the post implies. Of course third party debt is a much worse situation than owners risk. The post indicates over time Tans plan on Cardiff is of similar substance. Paying off debtors is part of it.Why funking argue for the sake of it.

where have I argued? All I did was claim that Cardiff have hardly "turned to gold" in his time here. A fair point.

I can see the facts. My business established over my adult lifetime has shown me that there is a massive difference between owners carrying debt/losses to third parties.

I can see facts too. :thumbright: of course there's a massive difference, where have I ever claimed otherwise? It's still a debt though, which will have to be serviced at some point. Either by way of debt to equity, or by paying it off. It's my opinion that he won't ever commit to full debt to equity, like he has promised.

You speak on behalf of your agenda and not on the fact that we are lucky to have Tan.

of course I do, it's my opinion. In my opinion, we aren't lucky to have him. Are you saying that people can only post if their opinion is matching yours? :?

I and many support the club which for obvious reasons supports Tan at the same time so man up. Admit it.Better still stop moaning or stop going. There you have your choices.

no thanks. All opinions welcome. :thumbright:

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:01 am

Pant-yr-awel bluebird wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.

There are those in his country who have stated that he is a corrupt crook'They have said this on television.Tan has refused to answer questions about this.He has taken no legal action against those who spoke on television.(Why).


Bit like Blair refused to answer questions only much more serious questions than Tan was asked to answer. Keep digging.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:04 am

dannyblue wrote:
Pant-yr-awel bluebird wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.

There are those in his country who have stated that he is a corrupt crook'They have said this on television.Tan has refused to answer questions about this.He has taken no legal action against those who spoke on television.(Why).


Bit like Blair refused to answer questions only much more serious questions than Tan was asked to answer. Keep digging.

Why do you think he has "armed bodyguards".

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:06 am

Cardiff haven't turned to gold.... Blah blah..

Maybe just maybe..one step back to take two forward was the approach needed.

Not saying we got relegated on purpose or anything insane like that..but now we are down it gives us a chance to clean up a bit.

So you think all Tans businesses were a roaring success from the moment he touched them?
Or maybe just like has happened here with Cardiff a bit of work was needed and the transformation to "gold" was a slightly slower process.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:09 am

85harj wrote:Cardiff haven't turned to gold.... Blah blah..

Maybe just maybe..one step back to take two forward was the approach needed.

Not saying we got relegated on purpose or anything insane like that..but now we are down it gives us a chance to clean up a bit.

So you think all Tans businesses were a roaring success from the moment he touched them?
Or maybe just like has happened here with Cardiff a bit of work was needed and the transformation to "gold" was a slightly slower process.


Now that's a fair post. Can't disagree on anything with that. :D

For me though, he has to go, purely for his horrific rebrand. Not everyone will agree, but those are my thoughts.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:10 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
dannyblue wrote:
You don't give differing views you distort facts.

nope. Different views, just like I said. :thumbright:

Of course the club has every chance of being huge as the post implies. Of course third party debt is a much worse situation than owners risk. The post indicates over time Tans plan on Cardiff is of similar substance. Paying off debtors is part of it.Why funking argue for the sake of it.

where have I argued? All I did was claim that Cardiff have hardly "turned to gold" in his time here. A fair point.

I can see the facts. My business established over my adult lifetime has shown me that there is a massive difference between owners carrying debt/losses to third parties.

I can see facts too. :thumbright: of course there's a massive difference, where have I ever claimed otherwise? It's still a debt though, which will have to be serviced at some point. Either by way of debt to equity, or by paying it off. It's my opinion that he won't ever commit to full debt to equity, like he has promised.

You speak on behalf of your agenda and not on the fact that we are lucky to have Tan.

of course I do, it's my opinion. In my opinion, we aren't lucky to have him. Are you saying that people can only post if their opinion is matching yours? :?

I and many support the club which for obvious reasons supports Tan at the same time so man up. Admit it.Better still stop moaning or stop going. There you have your choices.

no thanks. All opinions welcome. :thumbright:



Not even man enough to back your words with actions, as Ali says on Match day "on behalf of Cardiff City thank you for all your support "
Keep calling Tan a wanker bit of luck you get banned.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:10 am

dannyblue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
dannyblue wrote:A person gives his views on our Chairman's
business record compared to previous chairman all true it seems. Like a little weed in the classroom you got to poke your tongue out.

or just countering that post with a differing view. That is what forums are about, you know? :?

You really are a horrible little child minded dick head to the extent, if you wear blue the rest would wear red, who the he'll would want to be like you. Our club has NO THIRD PARTY debt unlike most clubs for the first time since the 50, s and you can't see it.

where have I claimed that the club still have 3rd party debt? Can you quote me please? You're just making things up. :laughing6: unless the debt is wiped (as promised by a Tan) then it will have to be paid off one day. Doesn't matter whether it is 3rd party or not, it will still have to be honoured.

Maybe YOU can't see THAT. :thumbright:


You don't give differing views you distort facts.
Of course the club has every chance of being huge as the post implies. Of course third party debt is a much worse situation than owners risk. The post indicates over time Tans plan on Cardiff is of similar substance. Paying off debtors is part of it.Why funking argue for the sake of it.
I can see the facts. My business established over my adult lifetime has shown me that there is a massive difference between owners carrying debt/losses to third parties. You speak on behalf of your agenda and not on the fact that we are lucky to have Tan. I and many support the club which for obvious reasons supports Tan at the same time so man up. Admit it.Better still stop moaning or stop going. There you have your choices.

Dannyman is a Tan poodle Annis.No point in arguing with him.Danny'you state many support Tan.Give us an aproximate percentage.Because i dont see many wearing red down the stadium.People like me and Annis would be happy watching the city in the lower league's wearing Blue.We are Cardiff city fans.Not premier league fans.People like you purport to be City fans.When in fact you are success fans with little or no respect for Cardiff City's history or culture. In my 54 year's down the City'i have known owners disliked.But i have never known an owner so hated and reviled as Tan.He will fall.All dictators do.Then i will volunteer to hand out the humble pie.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:14 am

Paul Keevil wrote:I know, and respect, you have issues with VT Annis and Im not going to knock that :bluescarf:

But when I think of all the Chairman we have had, in the 40 or so years Ive been going down, no-one has had the capacity to deliver to the extent that VT has. Stefan Terlezki (local counsellor) Tony Clemo (and his 10 seater plane for the squad!) The Kumar Brothers. Sam, much as I love him, I dont think had the capacity that VT has.

Like it or loathe it everything he touches turns to gold. Companies get listed on various stock markets and a lot of success is usually enjoyed by all.

Much as I would prefer us to be playing in blue I really do believe that VT will, very shortly, deliver not just premiership football but European Football as well. Now I used to love the European trips. That was also part of our heritage until the FAW/UEFA took that away.

I know I am not going to change your mind Annis :) and Im not saying I love VT either - but you cant knock his business skills. He certainly knows how to make money.


dont be surprised if you get called a Tan Lover though

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:14 am

dannyblue wrote:
Not even man enough to back your words with actions, as Ali says on Match day "on behalf of Cardiff City thank you for all your support "
Keep calling Tan a wanker bit of luck you get banned.


I've done plenty to back up my words, thanks. :thumbright: I don't believe I've ever sung that song either. Bit cringey for me.

All in all, you've had a bit of a mare with this post.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:26 am

Pant-yr-awel bluebird wrote:
dannyblue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
dannyblue wrote:A person gives his views on our Chairman's
business record compared to previous chairman all true it seems. Like a little weed in the classroom you got to poke your tongue out.

or just countering that post with a differing view. That is what forums are about, you know? :?

You really are a horrible little child minded dick head to the extent, if you wear blue the rest would wear red, who the he'll would want to be like you. Our club has NO THIRD PARTY debt unlike most clubs for the first time since the 50, s and you can't see it.

where have I claimed that the club still have 3rd party debt? Can you quote me please? You're just making things up. :laughing6: unless the debt is wiped (as promised by a Tan) then it will have to be paid off one day. Doesn't matter whether it is 3rd party or not, it will still have to be honoured.

Maybe YOU can't see THAT. :thumbright:


You don't give differing views you distort facts.
Of course the club has every chance of being huge as the post implies. Of course third party debt is a much worse situation than owners risk. The post indicates over time Tans plan on Cardiff is of similar substance. Paying off debtors is part of it.Why funking argue for the sake of it.
I can see the facts. My business established over my adult lifetime has shown me that there is a massive difference between owners carrying debt/losses to third parties. You speak on behalf of your agenda and not on the fact that we are lucky to have Tan. I and many support the club which for obvious reasons supports Tan at the same time so man up. Admit it.Better still stop moaning or stop going. There you have your choices.

Dannyman is a Tan poodle Annis.No point in arguing with him.Danny'you state many support Tan.Give us an aproximate percentage.Because i dont see many wearing red down the stadium.People like me and Annis would be happy watching the city in the lower league's wearing Blue.We are Cardiff city fans.Not premier league fans.People like you purport to be City fans.When in fact you are success fans with little or no respect for Cardiff City's history or culture. In my 54 year's down the City'i have known owners disliked.But i have never known an owner so hated and reviled as Tan.He will fall.All dictators do.Then i will volunteer to hand out the humble pie.[/quote

Danny man a Tan poodle Annis Blah Blah.
I'm no one's poodle pal l can assure you
70 years on this planet in July and supported the city since a Severn year old. Fought far to many wars, seen and witnessed two many distressing sights to let a change of my clubs shirt to send me into free fall. Don't see the point in calling him names in fact other than the shirt he has my respect, don't need your permission so lecture some other unsuspecting soul.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:26 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
85harj wrote:Cardiff haven't turned to gold.... Blah blah..

Maybe just maybe..one step back to take two forward was the approach needed.

Not saying we got relegated on purpose or anything insane like that..but now we are down it gives us a chance to clean up a bit.

So you think all Tans businesses were a roaring success from the moment he touched them?
Or maybe just like has happened here with Cardiff a bit of work was needed and the transformation to "gold" was a slightly slower process.


Now that's a fair post. Can't disagree on anything with that. :D

For me though, he has to go, purely for his horrific rebrand. Not everyone will agree, but those are my thoughts.

Everyone has an opinion won't knock you for yours one bit.
Your not on your own in thinking he needs to go, rebrand aside I don't think he's done that bad (some might not agree) I'd give him this season and next if we went up and see how things were going then.
We're already red. Seats will go in red now anyway so even if he were to go at the end of this season we would have a red team in red seats, so no harm if we went up to see where he takes us!?
Better the devil you know. Who knows what the new owner would do he could implement MORE rebranding for all we know as we've already began..at least it seems like Tan is done..
I think now we are red we will stay red whoever owns us as it's just easier to continue.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:31 am

85harj wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
85harj wrote:Cardiff haven't turned to gold.... Blah blah..

Maybe just maybe..one step back to take two forward was the approach needed.

Not saying we got relegated on purpose or anything insane like that..but now we are down it gives us a chance to clean up a bit.

So you think all Tans businesses were a roaring success from the moment he touched them?
Or maybe just like has happened here with Cardiff a bit of work was needed and the transformation to "gold" was a slightly slower process.


Now that's a fair post. Can't disagree on anything with that. :D

For me though, he has to go, purely for his horrific rebrand. Not everyone will agree, but those are my thoughts.

Everyone has an opinion won't knock you for yours one bit.
Your not on your own in thinking he needs to go, rebrand aside I don't think he's done that bad (some might not agree) I'd give him this season and next if we went up and see how things were going then.
We're already red. Seats will go in red now anyway so even if he were to go at the end of this season we would have a red team in red seats, so no harm if we went up to see where he takes us!?
Better the devil you know. Who knows what the new owner would do he could implement MORE rebranding for all we know as we've already began..at least it seems like Tan is done..
I think now we are red we will stay red whoever owns us as it's just easier to continue.

Still with a split fanbase and no customer feelgood factor.........Wont work I am afraid.
Its all about ego now, that simple.

Re: ' Vincent Tan to list '

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:32 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
dannyblue wrote:
Not even man enough to back your words with actions, as Ali says on Match day "on behalf of Cardiff City thank you for all your support "
Keep calling Tan a wanker bit of luck you get banned.


I've done plenty to back up my words, thanks. :thumbright: I don't believe I've ever sung that song either. Bit cringey for me.

All in all, you've had a bit of a mare with this post.


All in all l think you have had a worse one, as you say all opinions welcome.