' People underestimating Ole '

Up until he joined us last December he was regarded as one of the best up and coming managers in the world. He transformed Molde from relegation fodder to champions. He spent over a decade playing with the best players and under the best manager in the world.

IMO he had almost an impossible job keeping us up last season. He joined half way through the season and took over a squad lacking any real premiership quality.

Yes he made mistakes and he will again but nobody is perfect.

We will go up as champions this season, bookmark this thread.

Up until he joined us last December he was regarded as one of the best up and coming managers in the world. He transformed Molde from relegation fodder to champions. He spent over a decade playing with the best players and under the best manager in the world.

IMO he had almost an impossible job keeping us up last season. He joined half way through the season and took over a squad lacking any real premiership quality.

Yes he made mistakes and he will again but nobody is perfect.

We will go up as champions this season, bookmark this thread.

I will always support the manager that is in charge, I will never "boo" him at the ground or get on his back, just like I never do with the players.

However, as far as I'm concerned, he took over a club who were outside the relegation zone at the time, and by the end of the season we were bottom of the league.

Malky made some huge mistakes with his signings yes, but he'd also proven that he'd built a squad good enough to win the Championship and compete in the Premier League (based on the position we were in).

Ole made some equally bad signings - how, having worked with Eikrem and Berget at Molde - he didn't know that they weren't good enough to play in a relegation battle, I'll never know. It's not like he was signing players he'd never seen before and made a mistake. Why didn't he just bring in Daehli?

As for Zaha and Jones, well, are these the type of players you want in a relegation battle? Not for me.

The facts are that we were not in the relegation when he took over and we were when he left. The rest, and whether Malky would have taken us there or not is just speculation now.

But as I said, I'll support him while he's here and Tan will always be the person to blame for me.

An experienced manager would have been able to adjust the tactics to the squad at his disposal, and I don´t agree it was an impossible task to keep Cardiff in the PL. Still, I have great belief that Cardiff will do well the coming season under Ole. But he probable needs to get rid of the players that never wanted Malky to leave, and never wanted Ole (or anyone) to take over. I trust that Ole´s new signings, and the ones that never got their chance under Malky, will show the effort and commitment needed. Having one of the better squads in the Championship suits the tactics far better than being PL underdogs.

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

With still a load of games left I have no doubt we would have ended up there, Ole didn't waste £40+ million on garbage Malky was too stubborn to change players or tactics and would have dragged us down eventually and his brand of football was so dire, I almost fell asleep watching half our games

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Why does it matter when it's the end of the season that counts? The signs were there - our game against the saints was an appalling performance. We were only 1 point away from the bottom 3 and had the tough January run where I doubt Malky would have done any better.

All conjecture of course and clinging on to what might have been is pretty irrelevant really.

Malky obviously takes a huge part of why we got relegated. He misspent in the summer and told the players they were inferior to everyone and the only way they would get results is through set pieces. That mentality is hard for any manager to change.

But Ole had enough games to do better than he did and he didn't do it. Kenwyn Jones? Zaha? Terrible decisions. If Tan had gotten Pulis we would have survived. Now he had an impossible job!

That said his new signings look good, if Marshall, Dæhli, Noone and Mutch all stay then eve got a great shot next season and the chance to score a lot of goals.

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Just like no one will ever know of ole would have kept the team up if he had a full season, his own players, time to implement his style. Just a lot of what if's.
I dont think he is best manager ever but I doubt he is any worse than malky. And it must be said Where the team was pre ole has been greatly exaggarated. It is not as it was a comfortable position and the team was winning all the matches. Quite the contrary. Cardiff would have struggled either way the way things were going at the end of malky era.

I like Ole and he will have my 100% backing the enitre season, however he hasnt really done anything with us to impress me yet. I do feel that whatever happens in the coming season Ole's brand of football will be very entertaining to watch. The only downside to that is entertaining football may not get us promoted.

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Just like no one will ever know of ole would have kept the team up if he had a full season, his own players, time to implement his style. Just a lot of what if's.
I dont think he is best manager ever but I doubt he is any worse than malky. And it must be said Where the team was pre ole has been greatly exaggarated. It is not as it was a comfortable position and the team was winning all the matches. Quite the contrary. Cardiff would have struggled either way the way things were going at the end of malky era.

Malky's record was far better than Ole's and that's a fact.

Whether people think Malky would have kept us up or not simply their belief - I believe he would have, other believe not - we'll never know for sure.

But in my opinion Malky deserved the chance to see if he would based on the fact that he was the manager that took us to promotion - people seem to forget that - and he was the one that had us outside the bottom 3 when he left.

What more could he have done in terms of results? More points in the Championship? Top-half in the Premier League?

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

With still a load of games left I have no doubt we would have ended up there, Ole didn't waste £40+ million on garbage Malky was too stubborn to change players or tactics and would have dragged us down eventually and his brand of football was so dire, I almost fell asleep watching half our games

Our brand of football doesn't matter in the first season in the Premier League. That season is all about keeping yourselves in the league and establishing yourself as a top flight team. And our league standing when Malky left suggests that he was on course to do that, we'll never know for sure, it's just opinion from there.

If we wanted a better style of football then the season after you've stayed in the division is the time to do that, and if it's that important to Tan and the fans then now would have been the time to look at a more stylish manager perhaps, if Malky was unwilling to adapt.

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Just like no one will ever know of ole would have kept the team up if he had a full season, his own players, time to implement his style. Just a lot of what if's.
I dont think he is best manager ever but I doubt he is any worse than malky. And it must be said Where the team was pre ole has been greatly exaggarated. It is not as it was a comfortable position and the team was winning all the matches. Quite the contrary. Cardiff would have struggled either way the way things were going at the end of malky era.

Malky's record was far better than Ole's and that's a fact.

Whether people think Malky would have kept us up or not simply their belief - I believe he would have, other believe not - we'll never know for sure.

But in my opinion Malky deserved the chance to see if he would based on the fact that he was the manager that took us to promotion - people seem to forget that - and he was the one that had us outside the bottom 3 when he left.

What more could he have done in terms of results? More points in the Championship? Top-half in the Premier League?

who knows if he would have kept us up..........as you say not in relegation zone by one point,and more points per game than Ole.........the other side of the coin is,he was massively backed last summer, and history shows Malky teams hit a wall 2nd half of the season..............
i dont think a manager DESERVES..........any more than players......some players are good at one level and not the next.....fans accept this, but not with managers?

I think the argument that Malky had more points and a better record than Ole is a totally flawed. After the first 10 -12 matches, teams had sussed us out and the parking of two busses on the edge of our area and relying on set pieces was a unravelling. The January fixtures were always going to be a bad period and hence any manager would have struggled to get anything there. Then as with Ole comming in well to try to change the whole thing from defending at all costs to all out attack was destined to be one hell of a task. As far as transfers are concerned I do think Malky was by a country mile far worse than Ole.
Malky whilst operating in the Summer window had far greater funds to use and in the window that is easier to operate in, Ole in the January window had to make some very quick decisions on a limited range of available players with a good deal less money to spend.

Overall if Ole had saved us it would have been a miracle. The bottom line is that we could not score enough goals. All I know is that I am looking forward to the new season and with the Summer purchases already in the bag, we are certainly in for a more entertaining ride I dont think we will see too many 0-0 scorelines thats for sure. BLUEBIRDS

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Just like no one will ever know of ole would have kept the team up if he had a full season, his own players, time to implement his style. Just a lot of what if's.
I dont think he is best manager ever but I doubt he is any worse than malky. And it must be said Where the team was pre ole has been greatly exaggarated. It is not as it was a comfortable position and the team was winning all the matches. Quite the contrary. Cardiff would have struggled either way the way things were going at the end of malky era.

Malky's record was far better than Ole's and that's a fact.

Whether people think Malky would have kept us up or not simply their belief - I believe he would have, other believe not - we'll never know for sure.

But in my opinion Malky deserved the chance to see if he would based on the fact that he was the manager that took us to promotion - people seem to forget that - and he was the one that had us outside the bottom 3 when he left.

What more could he have done in terms of results? More points in the Championship? Top-half in the Premier League?

who knows if he would have kept us up..........as you say not in relegation zone by one point,and more points per game than Ole.........the other side of the coin is,he was massively backed last summer, and history shows Malky teams hit a wall 2nd half of the season..............
i dont think a manager DESERVES..........any more than players......some players are good at one level and not the next.....fans accept this, but not with managers?

I feel Malky did DESERVE the full season, untill moody was sacked the CCS was a fairly tough place to come and we were picking up points. There was no justification to get rid of Malky have way through a season (Unless Tan tells us what moody and Malky did so wrong I stand by that).

This thread was about underestimating Ole and has become about Malky again

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Just like no one will ever know of ole would have kept the team up if he had a full season, his own players, time to implement his style. Just a lot of what if's.
I dont think he is best manager ever but I doubt he is any worse than malky. And it must be said Where the team was pre ole has been greatly exaggarated. It is not as it was a comfortable position and the team was winning all the matches. Quite the contrary. Cardiff would have struggled either way the way things were going at the end of malky era.

Malky's record was far better than Ole's and that's a fact.

Whether people think Malky would have kept us up or not simply their belief - I believe he would have, other believe not - we'll never know for sure.

But in my opinion Malky deserved the chance to see if he would based on the fact that he was the manager that took us to promotion - people seem to forget that - and he was the one that had us outside the bottom 3 when he left.

What more could he have done in terms of results? More points in the Championship? Top-half in the Premier League?

who knows if he would have kept us up..........as you say not in relegation zone by one point,and more points per game than Ole.........the other side of the coin is,he was massively backed last summer, and history shows Malky teams hit a wall 2nd half of the season..............
i dont think a manager DESERVES..........any more than players......some players are good at one level and not the next.....fans accept this, but not with managers?

I feel Malky did DESERVE the full season, untill moody was sacked the CCS was a fairly tough place to come and we were picking up points. There was no justification to get rid of Malky have way through a season (Unless Tan tells us what moody and Malky did so wrong I stand by that).

This thread was about underestimating Ole and has become about Malky again

Yet you've contributed to the Malky debate. Well done.


I agree somewhat agree with the OP. His job wasn't impossible, as pointed out we were above the relegation zone before he came in. He failed to set the team up correctly, his tinkering with the tactics was a huge reason why we went down.

Regardless of what you think about the Norwegian league what he did achieved with Molde was fantastic. He evidently knows football but he is just very naive.

He deserves a summer where then he can offload the dross and bring in his players that suit his style. I think he'll take us back up with this current squad.

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Get real will you? we were one place avbove the relegation zone, if we were mid-table I would agree with your post, but we were not, stop harping on that we were not in the relegation spot, because where we were we might just as well been there

Not just was we only 1place above the relegation zone we had city arsenal United all away are ppl really believing that malkay would have kept us out the bottom three after them games is in a massive dream land

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Just like no one will ever know of ole would have kept the team up if he had a full season, his own players, time to implement his style. Just a lot of what if's.
I dont think he is best manager ever but I doubt he is any worse than malky. And it must be said Where the team was pre ole has been greatly exaggarated. It is not as it was a comfortable position and the team was winning all the matches. Quite the contrary. Cardiff would have struggled either way the way things were going at the end of malky era.

Malky's record was far better than Ole's and that's a fact.

Whether people think Malky would have kept us up or not simply their belief - I believe he would have, other believe not - we'll never know for sure.

But in my opinion Malky deserved the chance to see if he would based on the fact that he was the manager that took us to promotion - people seem to forget that - and he was the one that had us outside the bottom 3 when he left.

What more could he have done in terms of results? More points in the Championship? Top-half in the Premier League?

He could have made an attempt to win a couple of matches that were there for the taking. He lost my support and confidence for his tactics at Villa, Palace and Stoke.

Malky's tactics had been figured out by the time he was fired, hence why we weren't scoring anymore at that point (people knew what to expect off our set pieces), and the team were starting to suffer heavier and heavier defeats. Don't care what anyone says about off field matters affecting things, the fact that Malky's tactics had been exposed was completely unrelated to the Tan issues. What's worse is he clearly had no Plan B. Trust me, he's delighted he went when he did, because had Tan waited a month, we'd have been bottom 3 and Malky wouldn't have looked so bloody amazing to pundits and such.

Ole was brought in to make us play a more attractive brand of football, and at first this was really starting to show on the pitch. But god knows what happened and when, perhaps it was the Hull defeat, but suddenly we started taking steps backwards and you could see Ole's frustrations and he's made numerous comments recently which to me have suggested there were issues behind the scenes with certain players.

Malky's side were a dogged championship side, who could cause a few upsets against the big boys, but once they got found out, it was game over. Ole's side were trying to play like an established Premiership attacking force, but didn't have anywhere near the quality requires to deliver that style.

Ole's team, the one full of HIS signings, will be a bloody better team than Malky's. That's not a dig at Malky, just a simple fact based on their very different footballing philosophies.

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Just like no one will ever know of ole would have kept the team up if he had a full season, his own players, time to implement his style. Just a lot of what if's.
I dont think he is best manager ever but I doubt he is any worse than malky. And it must be said Where the team was pre ole has been greatly exaggarated. It is not as it was a comfortable position and the team was winning all the matches. Quite the contrary. Cardiff would have struggled either way the way things were going at the end of malky era.

Malky's record was far better than Ole's and that's a fact.

Whether people think Malky would have kept us up or not simply their belief - I believe he would have, other believe not - we'll never know for sure.

But in my opinion Malky deserved the chance to see if he would based on the fact that he was the manager that took us to promotion - people seem to forget that - and he was the one that had us outside the bottom 3 when he left.

What more could he have done in terms of results? More points in the Championship? Top-half in the Premier League?

He could have made an attempt to win a couple of matches that were there for the taking. He lost my support and confidence for his tactics at Villa, Palace and Stoke.

So after taking a good point away at Stoke and 2 poor performances (or after 3 poor performances as you're looking at it), then you lost confidence in a manager that has taken us to a Carling Cup final and playoffs in his first year with, let's face it, a poor squad, promotion next year as champions and some memorable results in the Premier League too (Man City home/Swansea home/Fulham away)?

Football is such a fickle game.

Up until he joined us last December he was regarded as one of the best up and coming managers in the world. He transformed Molde from relegation fodder to champions. He spent over a decade playing with the best players and under the best manager in the world.

IMO he had almost an impossible job keeping us up last season. He joined half way through the season and took over a squad lacking any real premiership quality.

Yes he made mistakes and he will again but nobody is perfect.

We will go up as champions this season, bookmark this thread.

I will always support the manager that is in charge, I will never "boo" him at the ground or get on his back, just like I never do with the players.

However, as far as I'm concerned, he took over a club who were outside the relegation zone at the time, and by the end of the season we were bottom of the league.

Malky made some huge mistakes with his signings yes, but he'd also proven that he'd built a squad good enough to win the Championship and compete in the Premier League (based on the position we were in).

Ole made some equally bad signings - how, having worked with Eikrem and Berget at Molde - he didn't know that they weren't good enough to play in a relegation battle, I'll never know. It's not like he was signing players he'd never seen before and made a mistake. Why didn't he just bring in Daehli?

As for Zaha and Jones, well, are these the type of players you want in a relegation battle? Not for me.

The facts are that we were not in the relegation when he took over and we were when he left. The rest, and whether Malky would have taken us there or not is just speculation now.

But as I said, I'll support him while he's here and Tan will always be the person to blame for me.

Excellent post Scott. Nobody can argue with this post surely?

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

Just like no one will ever know of ole would have kept the team up if he had a full season, his own players, time to implement his style. Just a lot of what if's.
I dont think he is best manager ever but I doubt he is any worse than malky. And it must be said Where the team was pre ole has been greatly exaggarated. It is not as it was a comfortable position and the team was winning all the matches. Quite the contrary. Cardiff would have struggled either way the way things were going at the end of malky era.

Malky's record was far better than Ole's and that's a fact.

Whether people think Malky would have kept us up or not simply their belief - I believe he would have, other believe not - we'll never know for sure.

But in my opinion Malky deserved the chance to see if he would based on the fact that he was the manager that took us to promotion - people seem to forget that - and he was the one that had us outside the bottom 3 when he left.

What more could he have done in terms of results? More points in the Championship? Top-half in the Premier League?

He could have made an attempt to win a couple of matches that were there for the taking. He lost my support and confidence for his tactics at Villa, Palace and Stoke.

So after taking a good point away at Stoke and 2 poor performances (or after 3 poor performances as you're looking at it), then you lost confidence in a manager that has taken us to a Carling Cup final and playoffs in his first year with, let's face it, a poor squad, promotion next year as champions and some memorable results in the Premier League too (Man City home/Swansea home/Fulham away)?

Football is such a fickle game.

peopl;e keep saying with a poor squad.....{ it was mostly HIS poor squad,if it was poor }........the wage bill was the same as the previous year...........and although players like Cowie and Gunner cost nothing in the transfer market,, we had to offer more than other clubs in wages......and neither was it as thin as some say...he used over 30 players............

Up until he joined us last December he was regarded as one of the best up and coming managers in the world. He transformed Molde from relegation fodder to champions. He spent over a decade playing with the best players and under the best manager in the world.

IMO he had almost an impossible job keeping us up last season. He joined half way through the season and took over a squad lacking any real premiership quality.

Yes he made mistakes and he will again but nobody is perfect.

We will go up as champions this season, bookmark this thread.

I will always support the manager that is in charge, I will never "boo" him at the ground or get on his back, just like I never do with the players.

However, as far as I'm concerned, he took over a club who were outside the relegation zone at the time, and by the end of the season we were bottom of the league.

Malky made some huge mistakes with his signings yes, but he'd also proven that he'd built a squad good enough to win the Championship and compete in the Premier League (based on the position we were in).

Ole made some equally bad signings - how, having worked with Eikrem and Berget at Molde - he didn't know that they weren't good enough to play in a relegation battle, I'll never know. It's not like he was signing players he'd never seen before and made a mistake. Why didn't he just bring in Daehli?

As for Zaha and Jones, well, are these the type of players you want in a relegation battle? Not for me.

The facts are that we were not in the relegation when he took over and we were when he left. The rest, and whether Malky would have taken us there or not is just speculation now.

But as I said, I'll support him while he's here and Tan will always be the person to blame for me.

Excellent post Scott. Nobody can argue with this post surely?

Both managers had their faults, both managed the club at different time scales.

Up until he joined us last December he was regarded as one of the best up and coming managers in the world. He transformed Molde from relegation fodder to champions. He spent over a decade playing with the best players and under the best manager in the world.

IMO he had almost an impossible job keeping us up last season. He joined half way through the season and took over a squad lacking any real premiership quality.

Yes he made mistakes and he will again but nobody is perfect.

We will go up as champions this season, bookmark this thread.

The Jury's out?

It was probably the wrong squad at the wrong time, but he added little.

I think he will do ok this season, I like his signings on paper, and he is suited to Managing a strong squad for the League, not getting the best from a weak squad and keeping them up.

I can't wait to see how it all works out, I hope you are right

Up until he joined us last December he was regarded as one of the best up and coming managers in the world. He transformed Molde from relegation fodder to champions. He spent over a decade playing with the best players and under the best manager in the world.

IMO he had almost an impossible job keeping us up last season. He joined half way through the season and took over a squad lacking any real premiership quality.

Yes he made mistakes and he will again but nobody is perfect.

We will go up as champions this season, bookmark this thread.

I will always support the manager that is in charge, I will never "boo" him at the ground or get on his back, just like I never do with the players.

However, as far as I'm concerned, he took over a club who were outside the relegation zone at the time, and by the end of the season we were bottom of the league.

Malky made some huge mistakes with his signings yes, but he'd also proven that he'd built a squad good enough to win the Championship and compete in the Premier League (based on the position we were in).

Ole made some equally bad signings - how, having worked with Eikrem and Berget at Molde - he didn't know that they weren't good enough to play in a relegation battle, I'll never know. It's not like he was signing players he'd never seen before and made a mistake. Why didn't he just bring in Daehli?

As for Zaha and Jones, well, are these the type of players you want in a relegation battle? Not for me.

The facts are that we were not in the relegation when he took over and we were when he left. The rest, and whether Malky would have taken us there or not is just speculation now.

But as I said, I'll support him while he's here and Tan will always be the person to blame for me.

In the January transfer window it is impossible to get the right players, they are not for sale, he did very well with Daehli and Cala, let's judge him at the end of this season, after having a full window....

Pisses me off when "fans" give him shit for taking over a team of shit and from a January transfer window not even alex ferguson could have kept us up. With players he chose I think he can do the job, I for one support ole and can't wait to see our team play under him he deserves a chance just like all our managers he does not deserve the abuse some of you have given him for not meeting your unrealistic expectations

Nobody knows for sure if Alex Ferguson, Malky or anyone else would have kept us up.

We only know that Ole didn't. And we only know that we weren't in the relegation zone when Malky left.

True or not?

No we were sliding towards it, and about to hit the hard run of fixtures when the other teams had sussed us out.....