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' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contract '

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:16 pm

World News

SUNDAY 15th JUN 2014

Tony Pulis Speaks Of Frustration After KG’s Cardiff Move

Speaking as part of the BBC’s World Cup punditry team last night, Tony Pulis highlighted his disappointment over losing Kagisho Dikgacoi to Cardiff on a free transfer last week.

Although the club did offer the South African a new deal, he and his representatives decided against it, plumping instead for a longer and more financially lucrative offer in Wales.

Whilst the reaction to KG’s departure amongst our supporters has been mixed, Pulis was adamant that he’d lost a very useful member of the squad, saying:

“He is one of those players in the right situation can certainly do the job. “I’m disappointed, but can understand that [it’s] a long contract and a very well paid contract.

“Cardiff have made him a fantastic offer. There’s obviously tremendous potential there and he’ll be desperate to get back into the Premiership.

“Physically he’s a powerhouse and he’s got all the attributes to do very well for them. If they get him fit and keep him fit he’ll be a good player.”

With Ledley and Jedinak already performing superbly in the centre of midfield for us, as well as the rumoured arrival of Jake Livermore this summer amongst others, I’m sure we will replace KG relatively easily, but it is certainly interesting to hear just how highly Pulis rates Dikgacoi.

I’m sure he’ll be very happy at Cardiff, even if the prospect of a midweek trip to Blackpool isn’t the most pleasant of images…

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:21 pm

Certainly for some time now it's seemed that we give quite long and lucrative contracts.

It means that unfortunately it can be difficult to get players off the books because other clubs just can't match the money that we are paying what are quite often average players.

I personally am quite looking forward to another trip to Blackpool. Hope it's not midweek though! :thumbup:

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:24 pm

So the rhetoric suggest it is a lucrative contract IF we go back up. Wonder what the rhetorics think of that :?

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:25 pm

Umpalumpa wrote:So the rhetoric suggest it is a lucrative contract IF we go back up. Wonder what the rhetorics think of that :?


Well hello Mr 4 posts :laughing6:

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:27 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
Umpalumpa wrote:So the rhetoric suggest it is a lucrative contract IF we go back up. Wonder what the rhetorics think of that :?


Well hello Mr 4 posts :laughing6:

Get on the bus :thumbup:

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:28 pm

When you start having to pay huge wages to get average players i think there is an issue intrinsically. It sends out all the wrong messages as a club and you just end up buying mercenaries who are there purely for one thing. You want people desperate to play for the club, not just there for the money, definitely the QPR vibe. Something that has been the cornerstone to our success in my honest opinion.

189% of turnover went on wages the last time you were in the championship, looks like it will be up there again. It doesnt seem like lessons are being learned and it is killing your club at almost every level.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:29 pm

Umpalumpa wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
Umpalumpa wrote:So the rhetoric suggest it is a lucrative contract IF we go back up. Wonder what the rhetorics think of that :?


Well hello Mr 4 posts :laughing6:

Get on the bus :thumbup:


Lookin gd in your profile pic by ther way, very dapper :laughing6:

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:30 pm

RoathMagic wrote:When you start having to pay huge wages to get average players i think there is an issue intrinsically. It sends out all the wrong messages as a club and you just end up buying mercenaries who are there purely for one thing. You want people desperate to play for the club, not just there for the money, definitely the QPR vibe. Something that has been the cornerstone to our success in my honest opinion.

189% of turnover went on wages the last time you were in the championship, looks like it will be up there again. It doesnt seem like lessons are being learned and it is killing your club at almost every level.


Personally I would call him an excellent player for the championship, as Tony Pulis agrees, who obviously knows a shit load more about football than any of us on this forum.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:35 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
Personally I would call him an excellent player for the championship, as Tony Pulis agrees, who obviously knows a shit load more about football than any of us on this forum.


I never assume someone knows more because of what they do, ive never met him to judge.

But back to Dikgacoi - He has been in the championship before - I certainly wouldnt call him excellent.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:37 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
Personally I would call him an excellent player for the championship, as Tony Pulis agrees, who obviously knows a shit load more about football than any of us on this forum.


I never assume someone knows more because of what they do, ive never met him to judge.

But back to Dikgacoi - He has been in the championship before - I certainly wouldnt call him excellent.


Name better players in his position currently in the champ then? :laughing6:

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:46 pm

Personally I'd like to see us pay average basic wages but with huge bonuses paid for promotion.

If only it were that easy I suppose.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:56 pm

Got premiership and championship experience, think he's gonna be the type of player who will not be technically and skilfully amazing but will be a good asset to the team and add solidity to the team making us harder to beat which is what palace were like under pulis and what is missing under ole so far in his reign

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:47 pm

Silly Release Clause. :shock: Are we still doing this? Now that's annoying.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:38 pm

davids wrote:Personally I'd like to see us pay average basic wages but with huge bonuses paid for promotion.

If only it were that easy I suppose.


I wish that too, but like you say if only it was that easy

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
davids wrote:Personally I'd like to see us pay average basic wages but with huge bonuses paid for promotion.

If only it were that easy I suppose.


I wish that too, but like you say if only it was that easy


The agents fees have killed it big time

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:59 am

RoathMagic wrote:When you start having to pay huge wages to get average players i think there is an issue intrinsically. It sends out all the wrong messages as a club and you just end up buying mercenaries who are there purely for one thing. You want people desperate to play for the club, not just there for the money, definitely the QPR vibe. Something that has been the cornerstone to our success in my honest opinion.

189% of turnover went on wages the last time you were in the championship, looks like it will be up there again. It doesnt seem like lessons are being learned and it is killing your club at almost every level.


What salary is he being paid?

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:01 am

Jupiter wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:When you start having to pay huge wages to get average players i think there is an issue intrinsically. It sends out all the wrong messages as a club and you just end up buying mercenaries who are there purely for one thing. You want people desperate to play for the club, not just there for the money, definitely the QPR vibe. Something that has been the cornerstone to our success in my honest opinion.

189% of turnover went on wages the last time you were in the championship, looks like it will be up there again. It doesnt seem like lessons are being learned and it is killing your club at almost every level.


What salary is he being paid?


You tell me.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:21 am

RoathMagic wrote:
Jupiter wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:When you start having to pay huge wages to get average players i think there is an issue intrinsically. It sends out all the wrong messages as a club and you just end up buying mercenaries who are there purely for one thing. You want people desperate to play for the club, not just there for the money, definitely the QPR vibe. Something that has been the cornerstone to our success in my honest opinion.

189% of turnover went on wages the last time you were in the championship, looks like it will be up there again. It doesnt seem like lessons are being learned and it is killing your club at almost every level.


What salary is he being paid?


You tell me.


So why are you saying it is "huge" if you don't know?
Everything is relative.
They got him on a free, so a long contract means they will get a decent transfer fee.
This seems to me like a very good investment. Clearly a Premier League class player, for no fee.
Even with signing on bonus and agents fees, this is no doubt a good deal.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:24 am

Jupiter wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Jupiter wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:When you start having to pay huge wages to get average players i think there is an issue intrinsically. It sends out all the wrong messages as a club and you just end up buying mercenaries who are there purely for one thing. You want people desperate to play for the club, not just there for the money, definitely the QPR vibe. Something that has been the cornerstone to our success in my honest opinion.

189% of turnover went on wages the last time you were in the championship, looks like it will be up there again. It doesnt seem like lessons are being learned and it is killing your club at almost every level.


What salary is he being paid?


You tell me.


So why are you saying it is "huge" if you don't know?
Everything is relative.
They got him on a free, so a long contract means they will get a decent transfer fee.
This seems to me like a very good investment. Clearly a Premier League class player, for no fee.
Even with signing on bonus and agents fees, this is no doubt a good deal.


Because it is suggested he has been given a massive contract. :?

What do you mean decent transfer fee? Hes 31 next year. He didnt light up the championship or premiership so no idea why you think he is clearly premier league class. Doesnt look like he has Prem clubs clamouring over him, apart from Palace who obviously werent willing to match cardiffs wage offer.

If you think thats good business then fine. However id suggest contributing to negative equity is anything but.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:41 am

RoathMagic wrote:
Jupiter wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Jupiter wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:When you start having to pay huge wages to get average players i think there is an issue intrinsically. It sends out all the wrong messages as a club and you just end up buying mercenaries who are there purely for one thing. You want people desperate to play for the club, not just there for the money, definitely the QPR vibe. Something that has been the cornerstone to our success in my honest opinion.

189% of turnover went on wages the last time you were in the championship, looks like it will be up there again. It doesnt seem like lessons are being learned and it is killing your club at almost every level.


What salary is he being paid?


You tell me.


So why are you saying it is "huge" if you don't know?
Everything is relative.
They got him on a free, so a long contract means they will get a decent transfer fee.
This seems to me like a very good investment. Clearly a Premier League class player, for no fee.
Even with signing on bonus and agents fees, this is no doubt a good deal.


Because it is suggested he has been given a massive contract. :?

What do you mean decent transfer fee? Hes 31 next year. He didnt light up the championship or premiership so no idea why you think he is clearly premier league class. Doesnt look like he has Prem clubs clamouring over him, apart from Palace who obviously werent willing to match cardiffs wage offer.

If you think thats good business then fine. However id suggest contributing to negative equity is anything but.


I think it is low risk yes, compared to other options. He could step into the Medel role. A 3 year contract is not extreme for a 31 year old defensive midfielder.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:44 am

A 3 year contract on wages not even a premier league club wanted to match is excessive for a championship club in debt up to its eyeballs im afraid. Gunnarson is a perfectly acceptable championship midfielder.

Re: ' Annoyed as City give a long and very well paid contrac

Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:00 am

RoathMagic wrote:A 3 year contract on wages not even a premier league club wanted to match is excessive for a championship club in debt up to its eyeballs im afraid. Gunnarson is a perfectly acceptable championship midfielder.


Maybe. There is no doubt Cardiff are stretching finances to escape the Championship as quickly as possible. It is a gamble, it is not the right way to run a club sustainably, but it is where we are.