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Simon Lim stepping down at Cardiff City raises more questions
by Haydn Gleed


Monday 9 Jun 2014


Simon Lim stepping down raises more questions about what is happening behind the scenes.

Well it had been quiet for far too long, but in a move that some have felt has come out of left field, Simon Lim, the chief executive in charge of Cardiff City, has stepped down from his role.

I think people are only surprised, because he seemed to have the full backing of Vincent Tan, who backed Lim all the way when it came to the summer transfergate (I don’t see that nickname catching on).

In his place steps Ken Choo, who has developed his knowledge of the football business through his many years as a senior auditor at PricewaterhouseCoopers in Malaysia and being the general manager of a London hotel and resort.

What next a painter and decorator as the chief scout? Oh…..

I dunno what to make of all this, I really don’t. It could be something as simple as he had his job evaluation and it was decided that he wasn’t up to the job. You wouldn’t find many City fans who would disagree with that observation. But at the same time, I don’t know if it’s a general reluctance to see things black and white after what has happened the last 12 months, but I get nervous when people with no football experience on a playing or business level are put in management positions to essentially spend my money.

Ken Choo could come in, see the obvious and notice the customers of the business (the fans) want their product in blue, and be the man who convinces Blofeld…uh…I mean Tan to turn us back to our traditional colours. Or, and this is the most likely scenario, he’s another Tan yes man, and the decent into madness will continue.

I guess time will tell, but I do want to say one thing, Mr Choo welcome to the mad house!

Isn't he a chartered accountant as well Which is why he has prob been brought in to watch over the finances, shrewd move by VT.

but I get nervous when people with no football experience on a playing or business level are put in management positions to essentially spend my money


what sort of statement is that ffs the guy has an accountancy background and if one thing is needed at the club now is someone to control the finances on a day to day basis and start to reduce the debt.

but I get nervous when people with no football experience on a playing or business level are put in management positions to essentially spend my money


what sort of statement is that ffs the guy has an accountancy background and if one thing is needed at the club now is someone to control the finances on a day to day basis and start to reduce the debt.

Wouldn't someone with an accountancy background be able to do just that

I'm afraid only time will tell on this one, but I'm amazed that people aren't simply celebrating the remove of Simon Lim for now, as I believe he has a lot to answer for where recent "internal" issues are concerned

Kenneth Choo may or may not be a "success" at Cardiff City FC, but to effectively dismiss him so readily is more than a little baffling and certainly make me question certain levels of thinking

It might only be me, but I see a certain softening from within the club recently (even if only the damping down of previously inflammatory rhetoric and the removal of certain people, like Lim) and it appears Vincent Tan is putting in place people he trusts (or at least thinks) can do a job for him

We may not like or accept that as fans, but as businessmen we would do exactly the same, would we not?

Let's just wait and see before damning the new guy

but I get nervous when people with no football experience on a playing or business level are put in management positions to essentially spend my money


what sort of statement is that ffs the guy has an accountancy background and if one thing is needed at the club now is someone to control the finances on a day to day basis and start to reduce the debt.

Wouldn't someone with an accountancy background be able to do just that

the first sentence of this is not Steve,,its an extract from the OP which he does not agree with......
or do i, you could swear its the norm to have ex players or managers as C.E.Os reading the metro article..

sick to death of every single thing that happens at this club being ridiculed......no matter what decisions are made some two bob journo will conjour up an article where Tan is ridiculed for it....

Well the cap fits ccfc ..... comedy central football club

Well the cap fits ccfc ..... comedy central football club

I know what you mean, fella...

SCFC = Swansea C***s Follow Cardiff!

Simon Lim was being sacked and then being replaced bloody weekly by Tan who used to just do it on a whim. As Annis has said this new guy has a cracking CV but unless Tan listens to him then its gonna go tits up like the rest.
But for me and for many returning our true identity and getting everyone pulling in the same direction is the only way forward and our duty as fans is to keep the pressure on.

Simon Lim was being sacked and then being replaced bloody weekly by Tan who used to just do it on a whim. As Annis has said this new guy has a cracking CV but unless Tan listens to him then its gonna go tits up like the rest.
But for me and for many returning our true identity and getting everyone pulling in the same direction is the only way forward and our duty as fans is to keep the pressure on.

Its all about the"club in crisis"thingy that the OP is trying to further perpetuate.An article trying to make nothing sound like something in order to fester the anti-Tan hatred among the minority.

I don't find the appointment of a chartered accountant to run the finances at CCFC a bad thing at all.

Why do people mention the fact that someone in charge of the finances has to have a background in football? If this was the case why did Sam piss up £30m, if it was a football head we needed? Listen if Choo can spot that merchandise sales are low, maybe Tan will listen to issues surrounding the rebrand? His primal job I'm sure of it will be to balance the books to then seek a buyer, the buyer will then assess the current financial state in which Choo will be appointed to sort.

I just think Tan will always be shot at regardless due to the rebrand, If Lim as we all know wrote and signed the cheques following a shocking spending spree last year, Tan is right to dismiss him. But why does this decision 'Raise more questions'??

Fans need to realise, football is a business and a football mined person is not needed in that position, his CV clearly shows he is capable of running the finances at this club.

Simon Lim was being sacked and then being replaced bloody weekly by Tan who used to just do it on a whim. As Annis has said this new guy has a cracking CV but unless Tan listens to him then its gonna go tits up like the rest.
But for me and for many returning our true identity and getting everyone pulling in the same direction is the only way forward and our duty as fans is to keep the pressure on.

you do not read articles like this about any other club...its rubbish printed to fuel the hatred of the extremists........AS LONG AS TAN LISTENS........????..really? you talk about him as if he is a 4 year old..........i havent achieved one hundreth of what Tan has in his life..have you?.....because reading some of whats posted on here maybe the board should be called billionaires corner......the blue apart i really dont see the club is a hell of a mess......you just pick and pick and pick.....

So a financial expert is now running our finances and this appointment is raising questions?????

Can only be a good thing if an expert in a particular field is in charge of said field.

Simon Lim was being sacked and then being replaced bloody weekly by Tan who used to just do it on a whim. As Annis has said this new guy has a cracking CV but unless Tan listens to him then its gonna go tits up like the rest.
But for me and for many returning our true identity and getting everyone pulling in the same direction is the only way forward and our duty as fans is to keep the pressure on.

you do not read articles like this about any other club...its rubbish printed to fuel the hatred of the extremists........AS LONG AS TAN LISTENS........????..really? you talk about him as if he is a 4 year old..........i havent achieved one hundreth of what Tan has in his life..have you?.....because reading some of whats posted on here maybe the board should be called billionaires corner......the blue apart i really dont see the club is a hell of a mess......you just pick and pick and pick.....

What does it matter what he has achieved in previous businesses? So far in terms of profit and loss nearly everyone on this forum has a better record in sport. He currently is £150m down.

If you put me in charge of a global fishing tackle business then id have no idea, no matter how much ive made in property. I wish people would stop taking his past business portfolio as theory that it holds weight in the footballing related arena which is a business place almost unique to anything else.

Huw Jenkins was owner of a construction businesses that went to the wall. Yet as owner of a football club he is one of the best in Britain. Go figure.

Simon Lim was being sacked and then being replaced bloody weekly by Tan who used to just do it on a whim. As Annis has said this new guy has a cracking CV but unless Tan listens to him then its gonna go tits up like the rest.
But for me and for many returning our true identity and getting everyone pulling in the same direction is the only way forward and our duty as fans is to keep the pressure on.

you do not read articles like this about any other club...its rubbish printed to fuel the hatred of the extremists........AS LONG AS TAN LISTENS........????..really? you talk about him as if he is a 4 year old..........i havent achieved one hundreth of what Tan has in his life..have you?.....because reading some of whats posted on here maybe the board should be called billionaires corner......the blue apart i really dont see the club is a hell of a mess......you just pick and pick and pick.....

What does it matter what he has achieved in previous businesses? So far in terms of profit and loss nearly everyone on this forum has a better record in sport. He currently is £150m down.

If you put me in charge of a global fishing tackle business then id have no idea, no matter how much ive made in property. I wish people would stop taking his past business portfolio as theory that it holds weight in the footballing related arena which is a business place almost unique to anything else.

Huw Jenkins was owner of a construction businesses that went to the wall. Yet as owner of a football club he is one of the best in Britain. Go figure.

ill go along with you being a property magnet.......you buy a football club..appoint a C.E.O..........i take that then makes all your experience in finance and life redundant?......it really does not...........there is a chain of command that you are the very pinnacle of.............as is tan......
re huw..........cant argue the fact that he has done fantastic in many respects........but, the Swansea story is pretty unique in football,almost non league to a thriving prem club......he isnt the only chairman that has run a tight ship,and tried to do it the right way...........its all fairly unique whats gone on down there,smarter people than you have tried to copy it,, but football isnt a fast food francise, where you just follow the template, way to many other factors are involved......that is why football has such popularity......its unpredicable

Simon Lim was being sacked and then being replaced bloody weekly by Tan who used to just do it on a whim. As Annis has said this new guy has a cracking CV but unless Tan listens to him then its gonna go tits up like the rest.
But for me and for many returning our true identity and getting everyone pulling in the same direction is the only way forward and our duty as fans is to keep the pressure on.

you do not read articles like this about any other club...its rubbish printed to fuel the hatred of the extremists........AS LONG AS TAN LISTENS........????..really? you talk about him as if he is a 4 year old..........i havent achieved one hundreth of what Tan has in his life..have you?.....because reading some of whats posted on here maybe the board should be called billionaires corner......the blue apart i really dont see the club is a hell of a mess......you just pick and pick and pick.....

What does it matter what he has achieved in previous businesses? So far in terms of profit and loss nearly everyone on this forum has a better record in sport. He currently is £150m down.

If you put me in charge of a global fishing tackle business then id have no idea, no matter how much ive made in property. I wish people would stop taking his past business portfolio as theory that it holds weight in the footballing related arena which is a business place almost unique to anything else.

Huw Jenkins was owner of a construction businesses that went to the wall. Yet as owner of a football club he is one of the best in Britain. Go figure.

ill go along with you being a property magnet.......you buy a football club..appoint a C.E.O..........i take that then makes all your experience in finance and life redundant?......it really does not...........there is a chain of command that you are the very pinnacle of.............as is tan......
re huw..........cant argue the fact that he has done fantastic in many respects........but, the Swansea story is pretty unique in football,almost non league to a thriving prem club......he isnt the only chairman that has run a tight ship,and tried to do it the right way...........its all fairly unique whats gone on down there,smarter people than you have tried to copy it,, but football isnt a fast food francise, where you just follow the template, way to many other factors are involved......that is why football has such popularity......its unpredicable

Then we disagree wholeheartedly. Which is completely fine.

However maybe you can see why some people dont give Tans history much credence in football.

Isn't he a chartered accountant as well Which is why he has prob been brought in to watch over the finances, shrewd move by VT.

Ye epic decision. I mean, we know nothing about him and he hasn't done anything yet.

But Mr Tan, you can add that to your long list of amazing decisions.

Your track record has been great so far, this is sure to be another great decision.

There is no reason I can think of to doubt your wisdom.

In Tan we trust. Pray for king tan.

This "article" is merely an opinion from a fan that has time on his hands and decides to contribute to the regional Metro - exactly the same as Carl Curtis voicing his "opinion" in the Echo....

I'm taking his opinion on board but with all due respect, a pinch of salt as well...

Next negative article.......

Isn't he a chartered accountant as well Which is why he has prob been brought in to watch over the finances, shrewd move by VT.

Ye epic decision. I mean, we know nothing about him and he hasn't done anything yet.

But Mr Tan, you can add that to your long list of amazing decisions.

Your track record has been great so far, this is sure to be another great decision.

There is no reason I can think of to doubt your wisdom.

In Tan we trust. Pray for king tan.

Lay off the smoke.

Simon Lim was being sacked and then being replaced bloody weekly by Tan who used to just do it on a whim. As Annis has said this new guy has a cracking CV but unless Tan listens to him then its gonna go tits up like the rest.
But for me and for many returning our true identity and getting everyone pulling in the same direction is the only way forward and our duty as fans is to keep the pressure on.

you do not read articles like this about any other club...its rubbish printed to fuel the hatred of the extremists........AS LONG AS TAN LISTENS........????..really? you talk about him as if he is a 4 year old..........i havent achieved one hundreth of what Tan has in his life..have you?.....because reading some of whats posted on here maybe the board should be called billionaires corner......the blue apart i really dont see the club is a hell of a mess......you just pick and pick and pick.....

What does it matter what he has achieved in previous businesses? So far in terms of profit and loss nearly everyone on this forum has a better record in sport. He currently is £150m down.

If you put me in charge of a global fishing tackle business then id have no idea, no matter how much ive made in property. I wish people would stop taking his past business portfolio as theory that it holds weight in the footballing related arena which is a business place almost unique to anything else.

Huw Jenkins was owner of a construction businesses that went to the wall. Yet as owner of a football club he is one of the best in Britain. Go figure.

JUST LEAVE HUW JENKINS OUT OF THIS. NO NEED TO RUB IT IN OUR FACES THAT A FAILED BUSINESSMAN IN A CONSTRUCTION YARD HAS DONE EXCELLENT IN SWANSEA FOOTBALL CLUB COMPARED TO MULTI BILLION BUSINESS MAN TAN. THAT IS WELL BELOW THE BELT ROATHIE. AND NO JOKES ABOUT TANS WASTELINE PLEASE ITS GETTING OLD NOW THANKS
CINDY

Well the cap fits ccfc ..... comedy central football club

I know what you mean, fella...

SCFC = Swansea C***s Follow Cardiff!

Well the cap fits ccfc ..... comedy central football club

I know what you mean, fella...

SCFC = Swansea C***s Follow Cardiff!

Jaffa

To many nose poking fans at our club who are more interested in anything that goes on behind the scenes than acually supporting the team.

To many nose poking fans at our club who are more interested in anything that goes on behind the scenes than acually supporting the team.

A good point well made, Jinks

I think we can ALL be guilty of that sometimes, yet NONE OF US has the capacity to do anything of note about it except moan and (sort of) protest about it, which in itself destabilises the club further

I often wonder (usually with trepidation) about what would have happened IF Tan hadn't "bought in" to Cardiff City FC via TG and/or what would happen IF he decided to effectively "pull the plug" right now?

For the record, I genuinely don't believe he will "walk away" and I DO believe a passive fight (specifically the wearing of BLUE at the stadium approach) to win back our colour BLUE